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TPM Community, Please Ignore "michelle bociurkiw"

This is especially for anyone who has not already read the discussion following Deanie Mills' excellent post entitled Hillary Supporters: From One Mother to Another, I'm Begging You.

Please be advised that there is a virulent troll posting at TPM (and apparently elsewhere) under the name "michelle bociurkiw".  As some astute commenters to Deanie's post pointed out, this name may actually be in use by more than one troll.  This "michelle bociurkiw" is the most toxic troll I have yet seen on TPM in my few months here.  She is a literal geyser of hate and ill-will who pushes every possible button and spews every variety of venom in an obvious effort to sow dissension and drag down any meaningful discussion.

In reading the discussion thread following Deanie's heartfelt post, it was depressing to see how this troll succeeded in taking the focus off the topic at hand and dragging reasonable commenters into wasting a great deal of time and energy refuting her vicious inanities.  It was depressing because I am sure this is exactly what "michelle bociurkiw" intended, and if ever a post deserved focused and heartfelt discussion, it was this one.

I propose that the best course of action in future is to utterly ignore "michelle bociurkiw" and DO NOT RESPOND to her comments.  Don't Feed the Trolls, as a wise TPM community member has often said.



Comments (31)

Seconded

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Thirded.

Virtual starvation is the best policy! Ironic that unreasonable people depend on reasonable people being reasonable.

Let them eat Yellow Cake!

Right on, Counselor Troi!

ttarleton - thanks for the smile! I actually have a cousin who calls me Counselor Troi!

Your choice of avatar certainly fits with your screen name.

And when "this person" simply changes their user name? How EVER will we identify them then?

Oh yeah right, it will be by the stupid troll-tripe they spew in the threads.

My advice: If a post seems over-the-top, check the profile to see if they are spamming BEFORE responding. I did, and as you might notice my booglie-eyed avatar did not get involved.

Thanks, good advice!

Great advice...I have seen her posts (copy and paste) on other blogs and she has been busy.

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It's probably Malkin

No respect for Michelle, eh?

She doesn't deserve any...

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Me thinks all the 'michelles' may be in for rude awakening soon. Their 'point of sale' addresses are being uncovered as we speak. Many are encouraging Deanie to repost her wonderful message.

Is there a way to wring someone's neck through this intertubes doohicky?

Thank you for this post. This person, real or contrived, managed to really upset me as he/she sabotaged Deanie Mill's important piece about the war and our children at risk in it.
I thought of asking TPM to put the poster's name at the top of the post rather than at the bottom so that we could truly ignore him/her by simply not reading the posts.
So I thank you for jumping in, defending the value of Deanie Mills, and saying, for all of us, that michelle bociurkiwe must go, or at least be ignored.
Now ignoring.
By the way, has anyone else had virus like attacks on your computer?

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well i think larry says it all.

Well, they’ve done it again.

Obama bloggers–paid or unpaid–have turned yet another democratic blog, the great MyDD, into an “obamablog”, where any statement critical of Obama is met with faux outrage, dismissal, and ridicule. The Obama people have smeared all democrats who do not fall in line with them. HRC supporters have been banned, warned, had their work edited, and “gang-troll rated” into oblivion.

MyDD has gone the way of daily kos.

The purpose of this diary is to respond to an earlier reccommended diary on the “signs of republican or McCain trolls”–or ways to spot what the author called “democrats supporting McCain.” The diary disturbed me as it seemed the penultimate way to trash every HRC supporter who said anything critical of Obama…in other words, “criticize Obama = republican troll”. The diary received many comments, and led subsequently to various commenters awarding “McCain points” to several HRC diarists in other posts, or to employ the “dismiss the argument” tactic by saying “is this snark?”


I don’t want the site’s obama people to forget that their behavior is transparent and how it is easy to see how they have approached and managed to take over so many blogs, and done so by maligning another democrat and half the democratic party that supports her.

There are essentially 5 characteristics of the Obama bloggers’ approach to eliminating HRC supporters, or dialogue about Obama on these sites. I give full credit to LavenderLiberal.com for the analysis, and add a few other things I’ve seen.

Basically it is a style of attack that is intended to eliminate and marginalize. It is not FOR Obama, it is AGAINST Clinton. In this manner, no issue about Obama is ever really discussed, even if it could effect the entire democratic party in November, even if that issue is raised for the purpose of dealing with it before it becomes an issue.

Here they are. Do your comments fit in here anywhere? Alternatively, have you been subject to any of these tactics yourself?

Attack/Gloat mode. ”Hillary is evil. Clintonistas are racist, uneducated old, irrelevant, paleofeminists, white-trash republican trolls (see the referenced diary above for spotting these mccain trolls).”
Threat Mode. ”If McCain wins, say good bye to roe v wade; say hello to the 100 year war, say goodbye to life on earth as we know it, and its all your fault”! And if Obama loses its because HRC continued her campaign through June 3rd!
Tantrum Mode. “Fine, go ahead and vote McCain, then! We don’t need you anyway! We’ve replaced you with millions of new voters! You were never a real democrat. The party is better off without you!”
Stark reality mode. Among themselves: “Oh shit…maybe we do need the Clintonistas in November!” To HRC supporters: “come on, we’re all democrats, we need to pull together, can’t we just get along?”
Over-confidence Mode. ”I’m not worried. HRC supporters will come around and vote Obama in Nov. After all, where else can they go? So let’s keep having fun beating them up!”

So, Obama people, spot yourselves as well as spotting the so-called “republican trolls”.

It’s been an interesting time here, but I am off to work for America. There is no convincing or reporting here, nor any real discussion.

As for me, I believe it is very important for the democrats to know who they’ve chosen if they go with Obama sometime next week as the “presumptive nominee”. Between now and August, my efforts on line, in the field of public discourse, and at the convention will be aimed at making sure the dems know who they’re getting in Obama. I am a proud life-long democrat and will still vote for the person I believe is the most qualified for POTUS in November


I think you're almost certainly a fraud, and are not the person you pretend to be. But if you are indeed a "proud lifelong Democrat", perhaps you could stop discussing personalities for just a moment, and list the ten issues that are most important to you, and presumably account for you're being a Democrat.

Do not feed. Ignore.

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and i will faithfully continue to post on this site as you folks need to get a grip. i think i will also advise other dems who are not supporting obama to visit as well as you folks are living in the twilight zone in my opinion. it's call freedom of speech folks.

nightie night.

PLEASE DON'T FEED THE TROLL, FOLKS!

There needs to be a thumbs up/thumbs down/karma ratings system. See YouTube, Plastic.com.

Life on TPM would be so much simpler if we had an "Ignore This Loser" button and/or a way to rate comments.

People couple write the mgmt and request it...... might help if several did.

I think we may have to accept that, for now, the rigors of covering the election are going to trump adding news functions to the site. I mean, we have asked and been assured that management is doing its best. But they're not a huge company and the coverage takes precedence.

By the way, it would be a lot easier to ignore her if everyone would quit putting up posts about her.

If anyone posted about "michelle b" previous to me, I wasn't aware of it. I was really disheartened by the way she hijacked the discussion of that wonderful post by Deanie Mills, and by the sheer volume and venom (and stupidity) of her bullshit. When I saw that she was spamming other threads as well, I wanted to do something to alert people.

I know that such people get off on being challenged, so I felt that freezing her out was perhaps the best policy. I certainly have nothing against publicly mocking her, except that she might feed on that, too. I just don't want to encourage a malicious asshole in any way in her efforts to stink up the joint.

If she keeps intruding so heavily here, maybe the best thing would be for all who object to use the "Send Comments and News Tips" link to alert Josh and company and ask them to block her.

I saw a troll with a Chinese menu in his hand...
His hair was perfect!

Draw Blood!

Nina

Remember JakeD?

Sometimes these trolls are more like a tick than a troll, and are not so easily dislodged.

"Blog TICKS!" maybe that should be the new blog term for insufferable trolls that persist until they must be administrated off the blog.

Bloodsuckers, one and all (that is, if Truth is the blood of the blogs).

Trolls come and go, but we wish they didn't spend so much time here. So I agree with many, don't feed em.

Except when it's really REALLY funny.

Nothing better than a hearty TPM Bellylaugh at some egotistical troll's expense...

I still chuckle remembering "goatlife."

Sigh... goatlife. Where is he now? Will he ever come back?

Meheheheh.

For trolls, like terrorists, attention is their oxygen. Best to ignore them.

...mopping through the streets of DC in the rain.

:-)

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