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We are everywhere and we will not back down!!!


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And what do you think Senator Clinton thinks of this?

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This is not about Hillary, this is about my party being highjacked!

I think the correct spelling is "hijacked".

I'll buy you a bottle of handsoap so you can wash all the blood of our fallen soldiers off your hands if John McCain wins in November.

It's about you being insane.

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Correct. Spelled that way for a reason.

What's the reason you spelled it that way?

My guess is we're all, assumedly, high.

Will we be high when we're living under John McCain?

I hope so. I hope we're all getting so totally and completely high that we can't get into our cars every morning.

That's turrible.

So is the thought of losing this election to the Republicans this year.

Sounds like a good plan, Lis.

If McCain wins, we'll just stay high the entire time.

Tommy Smothers warned us there were PUMAS in those crevasses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIfl2o44zb0

C'mon! Does anybody recognize this reference??

I'm not the only old fart around here. Some of you remember the Smothers Brothers, don't you?

Psycho-crazy ho-bags who deliberately misspell stuff to make a psycho-crazy psuedo-symbolic point. Crawl back under your rock, puma.

Pathetic
Uptight
Manic
Airheads

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By acknowledging in any way these types of posts, we contribute to the chaos they are trying to create. Ignore them and they'll go away. Ambivalence and no reaction is what causes them to shrivel up and become impotent.

Everytime I see some Idiot has posted more blather (such as 40yeardem's), I do something productive for Obama.

It's never constructive - but always a waste of time and energy when we attempt to engage in smart, witty repartee with those who are ill-equipped to respond in kind.


You're right! And so, I donated $20 to Obama and $20 to the Red Cross in PUMA's name.

It was the schooner Hesperus,
That sailed the wintery sea;
And the skipper had taken his little daughter,
To bear him company.

Blue were her eyes as the fairy flax,
Her cheeks like the dawn of day,
And her bosom white as the hawthorn buds,
That ope in the month of May.

The Skipper he stood beside the helm,
His pipe was in his mouth,
And he watched how the veering flaw did blow
The smoke now West, now South.

Then up and spake an old Sailor,
Had sailed the Spanish Main,
"I pray thee, put into yonder port,
for I fear a hurricane.

"Last night the moon had a golden ring,
And to-night no moon we see!"
The skipper, he blew whiff from his pipe,
And a scornful laugh laughed he.

Colder and louder blew the wind,
A gale from the Northeast,
The snow fell hissing in the brine,
And the billows frothed like yeast.

Down came the storm, and smote amain
The vessel in its strength;
She shuddered and paused, like a frighted steed,
Then leaped her cable's length.

"Come hither! come hither! my little daughter,
And do not tremble so;
For I can weather the roughest gale
That ever wind did blow."

He wrapped her warm in his seaman's coat
Against the stinging blast;
He cut a rope from a broken spar,
And bound her to the mast.

"O father! I hear the church bells ring,
Oh, say, what may it be?"
"Tis a fog-bell on a rock bound coast!" --
And he steered for the open sea.

"O father! I hear the sound of guns;
Oh, say, what may it be?"
Some ship in distress, that cannot live
In such an angry sea!"

"O father! I see a gleaming light.
Oh say, what may it be?"
But the father answered never a word,
A frozen corpse was he.

Lashed to the helm, all stiff and stark,
With his face turned to the skies,
The lantern gleamed through the gleaming snow
On his fixed and glassy eyes.

Then the maiden clasped her hands and prayed
That saved she might be;
And she thought of Christ, who stilled the wave,
On the Lake of Galilee.

And fast through the midnight dark and drear,
Through the whistling sleet and snow,
Like a sheeted ghost, the vessel swept
Tow'rds the reef of Norman's Woe.

And ever the fitful gusts between
A sound came from the land;
It was the sound of the trampling surf,
On the rocks and hard sea-sand.

The breakers were right beneath her bows,
She drifted a dreary wreck,
And a whooping billow swept the crew
Like icicles from her deck.

She struck where the white and fleecy waves
Looked soft as carded wool,
But the cruel rocks, they gored her side
Like the horns of an angry bull.

Her rattling shrouds, all sheathed in ice,
With the masts went by the board;
Like a vessel of glass, she stove and sank,
Ho! ho! the breakers roared!

At daybreak, on the bleak sea-beach,
A fisherman stood aghast,
To see the form of a maiden fair,
Lashed close to a drifting mast.

The salt sea was frozen on her breast,
The salt tears in her eyes;
And he saw her hair, like the brown sea-weed,
On the billows fall and rise.

Such was the wreck of the Hesperus,
In the midnight and the snow!
Christ save us all from a death like this,
On the reef of Norman's Woe!

By Henry Wadsworth Longfellow.

Ballad of the Harp Weaver
Edna St. Vincent Millay

"Son," said my mother,
When I was knee-high,
"you've need of clothes to cover you,
and not a rag have I.

"There's nothing in the house
To make a boy breeches,
Nor shears to cut a cloth with,
Nor thread to take stitches.

"There's nothing in the house
But a loaf-end of rye,
And a harp with a woman's head
Nobody will buy,"
And she began to cry.

That was in the early fall.
When came the late fall,
"Son," she said, "the sight of you
Makes your mother's blood crawl,—

"Little skinny shoulder-blades
Sticking through your clothes!
And where you'll get a jacket from
God above knows.

"It's lucky for me, lad,
Your daddy's in the ground,
And can't see the way I let
His son go around!"
And she made a queer sound.

That was in the late fall.
When the winter came,
I'd not a pair of breeches
Nor a shirt to my name.

I couldn't go to school,
Or out of doors to play.
And all the other little boys
Passed our way.

"Son," said my mother,
"Come, climb into my lap,
And I'll chafe your little bones
While you take a nap."

And, oh, but we were silly
For half and hour or more,
Me with my long legs,
Dragging on the floor,

A-rock-rock-rocking
To a mother-goose rhyme!
Oh, but we were happy
For half an hour's time!

But there was I, a great boy,
And what would folks say
To hear my mother singing me
To sleep all day,
In such a daft way?

Men say the winter
Was bad that year;
Fuel was scarce,
And food was dear.

A wind with a wolf's head
Howled about our door,
And we burned up the chairs
And sat upon the floor.

All that was left us
Was a chair we couldn't break,
And the harp with a woman's head
Nobody would take,
For song or pity's sake.

The night before Christmas
I cried with cold,
I cried myself to sleep
Like a two-year old.

And in the deep night
I felt my mother rise,
And stare down upon me
With love in her eyes.

I saw my mother sitting
On the one good chair,
A light falling on her
From I couldn't tell where.

Looking nineteen,
And not a day older,
And the harp with a woman's head
Leaned against her shoulder.

Her thin fingers, moving
In the thin, tall strings,
Were weav-weav-weaving
Wonderful things.

Many bright threads,
From where I couldn't see,
Were running through the harp-strings
Rapidly,

And gold threads whistling
Through my mother's hand.
I saw the web grow,
And the pattern expand.

She wove a child's jacket,
And when it was done
She laid it on the floor
And wove another one.

She wove a red cloak
So regal to see,
"She's made it for a king's son,"
I said, "and not for me."
But I knew it was for me.

She wove a pair of breeches
Quicker than that!
She wove a pair of boots
And a little cocked hat.

She wove a pair of mittens,
Shw wove a little blouse,
She wove all night
In the still, cold house.

She sang as she worked,
And the harp-strings spoke;
Her voice never faltered,
And the thread never broke,
And when I awoke,—

There sat my mother
With the harp against her shoulder,
Looking nineteeen,
And not a day older,

A smile about her lips,
And a light about her head,
And her hands in the harp-strings
Frozen dead.

And piled beside her
And toppling to the skies,
Were the clothes of a king's son,
Just my size.

The Highwayman
By Alfred Noyes

Part One
I
The wind was a torrent of darkness among the gusty trees,
The moon was a ghostly galleon tossed upon cloudy seas,
The road was a ribbon of moonlight, over the purple moor,
And the highwayman came riding-
Riding-riding-
The highwayman came riding, up to the old inn-door.

II
He'd a French cocked-hat on his forehead, a bunch of lace at his chin,
A coat of the claret velvet, and breeches of brown doe-skin;
They fitted with never a wrinkle: his boots were up to the thigh!
And he rode with a jewelled twinkle,
His pistol butts a-twinkle,
His rapier hilt a-twinkle, under the jewelled sky.

III
Over the cobbles he clattered and clashed in the dark inn-yard,
And he tapped with his whip on the shutters, but all was locked and barred;
He whistled a tune to the window, and who should be waiting there
But the landlord's black-eyed daughter,
Bess, the landlord's daughter,
Plaiting a dark red love-knot into her long black hair.

IV
And dark in the old inn-yard a stable-wicket creaked
Where Tim the ostler listened; his face was white and peaked;
His eyes were hollows of madness, his hair like mouldy hay,
But he loved the landlord's daughter,
The landlord's red-lipped daughter,
Dumb as a dog he listened, and he heard the robber say-

V
"One kiss, my bonny sweetheart, I'm after a prize to-night,
But I shall be back with the yellow gold before the morning light;
Yet, if they press me sharply, and harry me through the day,
Then look for me by moonlight,
Watch for me by moonlight,
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way."

VI
He rose upright in the stirrups; he scarce could reach her hand,
But she loosened her hair i' the casement! His face burnt like a brand
As the black cascade of perfume came tumbling over his breast;
And he kissed its waves in the moonlight,
(Oh, sweet black waves in the moonlight!)
Then he tugged at his rein in the moonlight, and galloped away to the West.

Part Two
I
He did not come in the dawning; he did not come at noon;
And out o' the tawny sunset, before the rise o' the moon,
When the road was a gipsy's ribbon, looping the purple moor,
A red-coat troop came marching-
Marching-marching-
King George's men came marching, up to the old inn-door.

II
They said no word to the landlord, they drank his ale instead,
But they gagged his daughter and bound her to the foot of her narrow bed;
Two of them knelt at her casement, with muskets at their side!
There was death at every window;
And hell at one dark window;
For Bess could see, through the casement, the road that he would ride.

III
They had tied her up to attention, with many a sniggering jest;
They bound a musket beside her, with the barrel beneath her breast!
"Now keep good watch!" and they kissed her.
She heard the dead man say-
Look for me by moonlight;
Watch for me by moonlight;
I'll come to thee by moonlight, though hell should bar the way!

IV
She twisted her hands behind her; but all the knots held good!
She writhed her hands till here fingers were wet with sweat or blood!
They stretched and strained in the darkness, and the hours crawled by like
years,
Till, now, on the stroke of midnight,
Cold, on the stroke of midnight,
The tip of one finger touched it! The trigger at least was hers!

V
The tip of one finger touched it; she strove no more for the rest!
Up, she stood up to attention, with the barrel beneath her breast,
She would not risk their hearing; she would not strive again;
For the road lay bare in the moonlight;
Blank and bare in the moonlight;
And the blood of her veins in the moonlight throbbed to her love's refrain.

VI
Tlot-tlot; tlot-tlot! Had they heard it? The horse-hoofs
ringing clear;
Tlot-tlot, tlot-tlot, in the distance? Were they deaf that they did
not hear?
Down the ribbon of moonlight, over the brow of the hill,
The highwayman came riding,
Riding, riding!
The red-coats looked to their priming! She stood up strait and still!

VII
Tlot-tlot, in the frosty silence! Tlot-tlot, in the echoing night
!
Nearer he came and nearer! Her face was like a light!
Her eyes grew wide for a moment; she drew one last deep breath,
Then her finger moved in the moonlight,
Her musket shattered the moonlight,
Shattered her breast in the moonlight and warned him-with her death.

VIII
He turned; he spurred to the West; he did not know who stood
Bowed, with her head o'er the musket, drenched with her own red blood!
Not till the dawn he heard it, his face grew grey to hear
How Bess, the landlord's daughter,
The landlord's black-eyed daughter,
Had watched for her love in the moonlight, and died in the darkness there.

IX
Back, he spurred like a madman, shrieking a curse to the sky,
With the white road smoking behind him and his rapier brandished high!
Blood-red were his spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat,
When they shot him down on the highway,
Down like a dog on the highway,
And he lay in his blood on the highway, with a bunch of lace at his throat.

* * * * * *

X
And still of a winter's night, they say, when the wind is in the trees,
When the moon is a ghostly galleon tossed upon cloudy seas,
When the road is a ribbon of moonlight over the purple moor,
A highwayman comes riding-
Riding-riding-
A highwayman comes riding, up to the old inn-door.

XI
Over the cobbles he clatters and clangs in the dark inn-yard,
And he taps with his whip on the shutters, but all is locked and barred;
He whistles a tune to the window, and who should be waiting there
But the landlord's black-eyed daughter,
Bess, the landlord's daughter,
Plaiting a dark red love-knot into her long black hair.

Should I get married? Should I be good?
Astound the girl next door with my velvet suit and faustus hood?
Don't take her to movies but to cemeteries
tell all about werewolf bathtubs and forked clarinets
then desire her and kiss her and all the preliminaries
and she going just so far and I understanding why
not getting angry saying You must feel! It's beautiful to feel!
Instead take her in my arms lean against an old crooked tombstone
and woo her the entire night the constellations in the sky -

When she introduces me to her parents
back straightened, hair finally combed, strangled by a tie,
should I sit with my knees together on their 3rd degree sofa
and not ask Where's the bathroom?
How else to feel other than I am,
often thinking Flash Gordon soap -
O how terrible it must be for a young man
seated before a family and the family thinking
We never saw him before! He wants our Mary Lou!
After tea and homemade cookies they ask What do you do for a living?

Should I tell them? Would they like me then?
Say All right get married, we're losing a daughter
but we're gaining a son -
And should I then ask Where's the bathroom?

O God, and the wedding! All her family and her friends
and only a handful of mine all scroungy and bearded
just wait to get at the drinks and food -
And the priest! he looking at me as if I masturbated
asking me Do you take this woman for your lawful wedded wife?
And I trembling what to say say Pie Glue!
I kiss the bride all those corny men slapping me on the back
She's all yours, boy! Ha-ha-ha!
And in their eyes you could see some obscene honeymoon going on -
Then all that absurd rice and clanky cans and shoes
Niagara Falls! Hordes of us! Husbands! Wives! Flowers! Chocolates!
All streaming into cozy hotels
All going to do the same thing tonight
The indifferent clerk he knowing what was going to happen
The lobby zombies they knowing what
The whistling elevator man he knowing
Everybody knowing! I'd almost be inclined not to do anything!
Stay up all night! Stare that hotel clerk in the eye!
Screaming: I deny honeymoon! I deny honeymoon!
running rampant into those almost climactic suites
yelling Radio belly! Cat shovel!
O I'd live in Niagara forever! in a dark cave beneath the Falls
I'd sit there the Mad Honeymooner
devising ways to break marriages, a scourge of bigamy
a saint of divorce -

But I should get married I should be good
How nice it'd be to come home to her
and sit by the fireplace and she in the kitchen
aproned young and lovely wanting my baby
and so happy about me she burns the roast beef
and comes crying to me and I get up from my big papa chair
saying Christmas teeth! Radiant brains! Apple deaf!
God what a husband I'd make! Yes, I should get married!
So much to do! Like sneaking into Mr Jones' house late at night
and cover his golf clubs with 1920 Norwegian books
Like hanging a picture of Rimbaud on the lawnmower
like pasting Tannu Tuva postage stamps all over the picket fence
like when Mrs Kindhead comes to collect for the Community Chest
grab her and tell her There are unfavorable omens in the sky!
And when the mayor comes to get my vote tell him
When are you going to stop people killing whales!
And when the milkman comes leave him a note in the bottle
Penguin dust, bring me penguin dust, I want penguin dust -

Yet if I should get married and it's Connecticut and snow
and she gives birth to a child and I am sleepless, worn,
up for nights, head bowed against a quiet window, the past behind me,
finding myself in the most common of situations a trembling man
knowledged with responsibility not twig-smear nor Roman coin soup-
O what would that be like!
Surely I'd give it for a nipple a rubber Tacitus
For a rattle a bag of broken Bach records
Tack Della Francesca all over its crib
Sew the Greek alphabet on its bib
And build for its playpen a roofless Parthenon

No, I doubt I'd be that kind of father
Not rural not snow no quiet window
but hot smelly tight New York City
seven flights up, roaches and rats in the walls
a fat Reichian wife screeching over potatoes Get a job!
And five nose running brats in love with Batman
And the neighbors all toothless and dry haired
like those hag masses of the 18th century
all wanting to come in and watch TV
The landlord wants his rent
Grocery store Blue Cross Gas & Electric Knights of Columbus
impossible to lie back and dream Telephone snow, ghost parking -
No! I should not get married! I should never get married!
But - imagine if I were married to a beautiful sophisticated woman
tall and pale wearing an elegant black dress and long black gloves
holding a cigarette holder in one hand and a highball in the other
and we lived high up in a penthouse with a huge window
from which we could see all of New York and even farther on clearer days
No, can't imagine myself married to that pleasant prison dream -

O but what about love? I forget love
not that I am incapable of love
It's just that I see love as odd as wearing shoes -
I never wanted to marry a girl who was like my mother
And Ingrid Bergman was always impossible
And there's maybe a girl now but she's already married
And I don't like men and -
But there's got to be somebody!
Because what if I'm 60 years old and not married,
all alone in a furnished room with pee stains on my underwear
and everybody else is married! All the universe married but me!

Ah, yet well I know that were a woman possible as I am possible
then marriage would be possible -
Like SHE in her lonely alien gaud waiting her Egyptian lover
so i wait-bereft of 2,000 years and the bath of life.

-- Gregory Corso

My favorite poet!

When you have 16 comments, and no recommends....you know you're in for some sh*t.

No recipes or nature posts about loons... yet...

Here you are:

Chicken with oven-dried tomato-vodka sauce

2-4 chicken breasts
1 chipotle pepper
fresh sage
oven-dried tomatoes
garlic to taste
1-2 shots of vodka
butter
salt and pepper to taste


Sautee one chipotle pepper and a sprig of sage in a mix of butter and olive oil

Remove pepper and sage, discard

Place chicken breasts in pan, brown on first side

Turn breasts, reduce heat, cover

Set finished breasts aside, turn heat up, add garlic, torn fresh sage, and oven-dried tomatoes, warm through and add a LOT of cracked black pepper

Add one shot vodka, allow to come to simmer

When vodka is reduced by 1/2, add 1 T butter, stir to incorporate

Top chicken with tomato mix, serve warm

I hate the disruption of threads, even threads prompted by a comment from trolls, even more than I detest trolls. What an obnoxious and disrepectful tactic, and it is beneath this website. If you don't like what someone posts, ignore it.

Three things:
1) I was burbonized

2) Yes, it's rude. So is showing up in a discussion forum and creating a user profile with absolutely no intention of having a meaningful discussion. There was nothing in Puma lady's profile or original post to suggest she was here to either learn or attempt to share her viewpoint in a meaningful way. She was here to throw down insults. So I gave her something to read and ponder.

3) Given that, I was trying to make a point in a way that she might understand. I was trying to say that even though she's mad about her "party being highjacked" there are worse things in the world to be this worked up about - our infrastructure is crumbling and our travel ways are increasingly treacherous (hesperus), parents are starving to feed and clothe their children (harp weaver) and crime is choking our cities and killing what would otherwise be beautiful relationships(highwayman). Seemed like a suitable response.

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What thread are you talking about? Go back and read what it says again. It is not a topic or an informative post. It is merely a bumper sticker.

How the hell do you consider "we are everywhere, and we will not back down" to be an actual thread topic?

By the way, you should heed your own advise, and if you do not like the comments that have been posted, ignore them.

By the way, you should heed your own [advice], and if you do not like the comments that have been posted, ignore them.

But he didn't....

jolly good point!

and the word "jolly" reminds me of Jolly Rancher candies... the hard little candy that filled with big flavor. Choose favorites like green apple, cherry, strawberry, grape, watermelon, cinnamon, orange and many more. Jolly Rancher candies... a whole lotta taste in a very small space.

what this country needs is a good 5 cent bubblegum cigar.... where does LaRouche stand on that issue?

That's it Jade, we need to onion-belt this thread, as DF likes to say.

Jade:

I don't like your divisive posts for the most part and I don't ignore them either. People like me are here to stay on your tail, use the credibility we have acquired over years of posting here, and call you on the disunity you seek to foment. Deal with it, or don't.

Jade, sophisticated trolls are just that. Good writers are a dime a dozen; good and honorable people, not so much.

Have at it herd runner.

liam:

If you want to justify douchebag methodology for having this forum go at it. I have seen this kind of trashing on posts that are guilty solely of running against the herd, e.g. some of David Seaton's more obnoxious posts.

Some things are right and some things aren't. This stupid post should be ignored. My only mistake was clicking on it to see what the poster had to say to support the totally unproductive and unfortunate PUMA movement. As a former supporter of Hillary Clinton, I was prepared to write that I along with most loyal 40 year Democrats (31 for me cause I can't count my first 17 years of living), have no use for PUMA.

When I see the victors in this primary trash this site, I understand why some disappointed folks, not yours truly, resort to PUMA.

So, in conclusion, if you want to respond to a douchebag by being a douchebag have at it.

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So, what your are saying is I should not reply to you, since you did not post any of things you now say you planned on posting about the PUMA campaign, but instead behaved like a "douchebag" toward others.

Nice to see you going into full "douchebag" mode to defend that outright racist, David Seaton, who has declared that he is going to vote for War Monger McCain, while Seaton tries to con people by pretending be a loyal Democrat.

liam:

You can have the last word after this because you are as pigheaded and divisive as you were in the campaign. You cannot help yourself. Let me clarify my position.

If someone writes a trollish post, you have 3 options. You can respond with substance (that's what folks with manners do), you can ignore the person (that's also appropriate etiquette), or you can bully and ruin the thread with cooking recipes. I think the latter method of discourse is beneath this website.

As to your intimations that I am defending an alleged racist, that's typical of you. Nobody poisoned the environment around here during the campaign more than you did liam, and I see you still cannot help yourself.

I think I know why you behave so inappropriately. I think you are just a lover of Senator Obama the man; I don't think you have ever demonstrated a propensity to look at fellow progressives who may not always agree with you as your brothers and sisters in something loftier than a mere political campaign. That's why it was always so easy for you I think to call fellow progressives like me racists or worse.

You are nothing but a groupie liam. You're a mean and nasty Obama groupie, and mean and nasty are the worst kind of groupie. . .and human being.

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For the record: Here is your first comment.

"I hate the disruption of threads, even threads prompted by a comment from trolls, even more than I detest trolls. What an obnoxious and disrepectful tactic, and it is beneath this website. If you don't like what someone posts, ignore it.
Posted by bslev
June 22, 2008 9:18 AM"


Here was comment back to yours:


What thread are you talking about? Go back and read what it says again. It is not a topic or an informative post. It is merely a bumper sticker.

How the hell do you consider "we are everywhere, and we will not back down" to be an actual thread topic?

By the way, you should heed your own advise, and if you do not like the comments that have been posted, ignore them.
Posted by liam
June 22, 2008 10:34 AM |


Notice I did not attack anyone, or engage in name calling.

Then you came back with the following remarks, in which you called me a "douchebag".


liam:

If you want to justify douchebag methodology for having this forum go at it. I have seen this kind of trashing on posts that are guilty solely of running against the herd, e.g. some of David Seaton's more obnoxious posts.

Some things are right and some things aren't. This stupid post should be ignored. My only mistake was clicking on it to see what the poster had to say to support the totally unproductive and unfortunate PUMA movement. As a former supporter of Hillary Clinton, I was prepared to write that I along with most loyal 40 year Democrats (31 for me cause I can't count my first 17 years of living), have no use for PUMA.

When I see the victors in this primary trash this site, I understand why some disappointed folks, not yours truly, resort to PUMA.

So, in conclusion, if you want to respond to a douchebag by being a douchebag have at it.
Posted by bslev
une 22, 2008 2:49 PM |

You started calling me names,And you then you think you can get away with blaming me for being divisive. You are not fooling anyone with your attacks, name calling, and in turning trying to swiftboat me. Begone; Turdblossom acolyte.

Fortunately, the puma is extirpated in states sufficient to permit Democrats to take the White House this year.

The whole puma thing works both ways. After the Democrats win, they'll doubtless send out parties of puma hunters. Run free, little pumas, until November 4.

Antirecommend this "post."

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War Mongers, Joe Lieberman, and Zell Miller are the founding traitors of PUMA. If that is who you wish to consort with, then good riddance to you.

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