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Psycho Old White Women Elect McCain

After reviewing the press coverage of Saturday's hearing, I have to come to the conclusion that Hillary's "base" of old white women would prefer to elect McCain as president. They cannot and will not accept the idea that an African-American is the better candidate.  Their sexist and racist views illustrate the failed entitledment approach by Hillary.  Fr. Pfleger comments were statements of truth.  Hillary and her psycho supports cannot stand the idea that an African-American man has bested her.  How dare an African-
American man challenge her faux entitlement!  What Hillary does not understand is that we are living in 2008 and not 1968.   What Hillary does not understand is that she represents the worst of the 1970s, 80s, and 90s.  She claims to be a fighter and yet, she failed to kick her cheating husband out.  This demonstrates her weakness.  She simply did not have the balls to stand up for herself.  A majority of Americans understand this.  And for anyone who is actually interested in advancing the Democratic agenda, Hillary is the antichrist bitch.


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You're their equivalent from Obama's fanbase. :(

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Hmm. It occurs to me that calling Clinton supporters "psycho old white women" is not the wisest strategy for bringing them back to the Democratic fold. This kind of stuff only confirms their worst fears.

You do Obama no favors by making posts like this, especially with the sexist overtones.

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See, the argument is over before the discussion begins.

I hate Hillary too, but only because I am black. She traded (I like to say 'traitored it') my vote for the votes of 'Americans, Hard-working, White Americans,' back in the runup to So. Carolina. Although I also took issue with her trying to suppress the vote in Nevada (her supporters filed a law suit that would've taken the elections out of the casinos - which have large minority staffs that otherwise would have beenn unable to vote - in the end it didn't happen and she still won it. The worst part is that she had had my vote prior to the campaign.

Father Pfleger was right. Too many white Americans still can't, don't or won't recognize the advantages their skin color affords them, or the difficulties minorities face in a still largely segregated America. This is often reflective in the 'entitlement' mindset. I am not going to argue that all whites feel entitled, I know some white guys that don't expect shit! However, non-whites often experience what they would say is a sense of entitlement in their white counterpoints.

Now, look at the campaign Hillary has run. Just a few weeks ago, she said plainly: 'white America is having a hard time voting for a black man.' Using the news networks to support this claim there was an endless discussion of Obama's white problem. Look at the reaction of Clinton supporter Geraldine Ferraro, she isn't vague in describing what this is about. She claims "Black journalist are the new sexism." She went on to diss Bob Hebert for 'saying nothing nice about Hillary Clinton since January,' blind to the fact the it was blackass Bob Hebert who first wrote about the grostesque amount of sexism the Clinton campaign was faced with. What her comments say to black people is, he's black!

I watched the woman in the video, the one who was thrown out of the meeting. I recognized her, I know this woman, or at least someone like her. And maybe others in her know someone like her. She's probably been told to shut up by her husband for many years, and she took it because, well, you just don't get divorced. That's what her parents, and her era and values told her. Her father, too, might have told her to shut up. Her brothers, too.

She probably has worked for an abusive male boss, who also told her to shut up, gave her demeaning tasks to do, and let her know that where she was is where she was going to stay because she didn't deserve to be promoted. And then, at some point, younger less experienced women began to be promoted over her, particularly minority women, and that made her angry, and she still carries that anger.

And who can blame her? She's been made to feel like a second-class citizen for a lot of her adult life. This is real gender discrimination and abuse. It has happened, and continues to happen. The anger that these women feel is not coming out of nowhere. I've seen women of her age still, today, being told to shut up by the men in their lives -- I see it at the grocery store, at the doctor's office, in restaurants.

To this woman, Geraldine Ferraro and others like her are heroines. They broke through glass ceilings and paved the way. Hillary Clinton is the ultimate glass ceiling-breaker. These women have wanted to see someone like Clinton break through all the way to the top, the real ultimate top. They're disappointed, and from their perspective, "the boys" got in the way yet again. Same old story, to them.

They are not "psycho old women." Not at all. They have lived through real gender discrimination and have been traumatized by it. I completely understand where they're coming from, as I've seen this in the families of people close to me. They are mothers, sisters, aunts, grandmothers, best friends, and they're angry, disillusioned, hurt. They're a lot of things, but they are most definitely not "psycho."

Does that make their behavior right?

It's perspective. There's no right or wrong. It is what it is. To some, it's wrong. To them, it's not. I'm just saying that I understand where they're coming from.

That's a bit too relativistic for me.

Having been abused does not give anyone the right to abuse others.

Of course not. Substitute "child abuser" and then say that the child grew up to also be a child abuser doesn't mean that adult now has a right to abuse. I repeat again, I'm just saying that I understand where they're coming from. Not condoning, not excusing, just finding a reason. Not an excuse -- there's no excuse, but there is a reason.

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funny, i saw her and thought she reminded me of my wife's boss. the one who would capriciously tell my wife she had to stay late to finish some a report she volunteered her to do. or would go to lunch for 2 hours with her girlfriend, and expect the rest of her team to stick around until 7pm, thinking that like her, they too wanted to avoid going home and facing their husbands.

angry, disillusioned, hurt... yeah, maybe. traumatized? nobody on this thread is qualified to diagnose them as victims or perpetrators. when i see them though, this doesn't look like the face of discrimination, circa 1978. this looks like the face of middle management circa 2008.

Not diagnosing. But I've seen the word trauma used to describe anyone subject to ongoing abuse of this nature. And yes, women in management can be guilty of the same thing.

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By all means continue to see the world in black and white if that helps you get a grasp on things. Or better yet, get back on your meds.

Too much merlot.

I am so sick of small minded folks projecting onto entire groups the behavior or characteristics of one or a few of that group. I think such is referred to as "bigotry."

I find your post extremely offensive, not to mention ignorant.

You know what's funny? You never see the "reasonable" Hillary supporters shout down the pro-Hillary trolls.

I'm not a fan of Hillary, but this post is pretty over the top. Think it if you must, but don't say it. The job now is to end the rancor, not enflame it.

Doesn't that suck though.

I really hope we're going to get some good McCain trolls. I want to see you demolish them every once in a while :)

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Merlot pulling out the racist yokel once again. Is anyone surprised. Dude you are the one sad and bitter individual.

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Hillary understands completely that we are living in 2008 and not 1968; she wouldn't have been able to run as successfully as she has in 1968. Don't confuse some of her most vocal, frustrated partisans with Hillary herself. As an Obama supporter, I sure don't want to be equated to someone who calls Hillary "the antichrist bitch."

Another "pearl" from Merlot... Man, get some help please!
Sheesh

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I was disturbed by the video footage from the hearing too. I think Merlot is a little harsh in language and tone (calling someone a bitch isn't going to help them overcome their cries of sexism), but I'm pretty much in agreement.

Last week I had to train for two days with a group that included three or four really, truly, sexist, men (White and Black). Normally, these men are my adversaries in a labor management relationship. (I work for a union.) Their piggy ways just egg me on and make me fight harder.

At the training, I started to feel really bad for the non piggy men and women who work with these guys. I get to work with men and women I respect. I don't think men at my work get away with not pulling their weight or BSing their ways though life. I don't think the same is true for these management men I trained with. These guys were rude, condescending, and to be frank, really dumb.

So I started wondering if the women in the group were pro Hillary and if so, did they project on to Barack Obama a sense that men have it easy and enjoy power and status just because of their sex/gender.

I'm an Obama supporter, and I don't think Obama is the same as the men I trained with. He's qualified, well spoken, and thoughtful. But, I can see how people who have been pro Hilary from the start bought onto that notion that Obama is not at all the way I describe him. I can understand how disappointing the primaries have been for them.

Anyway, this "revelation" of mine is nothing new really, and I've read and heard about it before. I just didn't get it until now. I'm a little sheltered in my dogooder life, and I don't have to put up with the kind of crap that most women do.

You shouldn't call them old or psycho. A better title might be Angry White Women Elect Old White Man.

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Well, calling this woman psycho and old (as if those were bad things!) immediately discredits your argument to a level just one notch above her racist rant. So you don't win for losing, but merlot adds nothing to any debate.
As far as her tantrum, it should not be dismissed, but neither should it be tolerated. Since she is part of our citizenry, any representative should heed her anger and try to address and redress those causes of her anger that may be justified (e.g. a lifetime under sexism, whatever). AND ever single person in that room had a moral obligation to argue back to her that her comments were petty, ad hominem, illogical, hateful, cruel and racist -- and have NO PLACE in the Democratic Party, or any public forum.

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