"It seems fairly clear, however, that your comments serve the sole purpose of sowing resentment and hostility."

Thanks, Chris, for helping to expose her!

Remember: Don't Feed The Trolls!

Chris, you read my mind!! You must be a Jedi knight because I was thinking the same thing about this "Michelle". I am very sure that she is not a Democrat and her sole function is to try and devide us. Remember the RNC is working on this as they see they can make use of our long primary and some hard feelings to drive this wedge between Democrats.

can michelle be 'articulate' about anything?

Please read Al Giordano's post here:
http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=1326

It may tell us what's going on with "michelle." Or maybe "she" has other motives. But the Limbaugh "operation chaos" factor is worth keeping in mind whenever we see anyone advocating on a blog like this for McCain, against Obama, and using Clinton as an excuse.

Apparently, when Clinton failed to concede last Tuesday, Limbaugh told his viewers that "operation chaos" should continue and that his listeners should go to Clinton's site and urge her on.

Couple of snippets:

"Limbaugh has, according to radio ratings, 22 million listeners a day ... Think about it: 22 million listeners a day... a very large percentage of the feedback [Clinton] no doubt got via her website to stay in the race came from the Limbaugh chaos lobby, as are, frankly, many of the anonymous comments that transitioning Clinton bloggers are receiving now that claim to be from Clinton supporters urging votes for McCain or third party candidates...

"The Field’s analysis of exit poll data from March 4 (after the GOP nomination was settled and Republicans felt free to prank the Democratic primaries) to June 3, shows that 15 percent of Clinton’s vote during that period came from pro-McCain voters pranking the system, mostly at the urging of Limbaugh."

"Michelle" morphed into a black woman with incredibly poor english language skills, on the "AA- Reaction to Hillary" thread

I don't mean typos - I am a truly awful typist and my posts if done in haste show this.

I am speaking of demonstrably and obviously fake poor English such as typing the word 'seen' as 'scene' and other obvious errors.

new 'back' "Michelle" may also have morphed - saw a new poster named "Mandy" - her one and only post was an anti-Clinton screed that was short yet breathtakingly discgusting.

THere is no reason for us to allow that crap to foment extreme hatred within the Democratic community.

Let's instead hijack THEIR comments by writing only to EACH OTHER about these poster's idiocy:):):)n poor souls, unable to get folks to reply to them or address them - speaking in third person around them. ...

well i think larry says it all. which obama troll type are you chris penfield?

Well, they’ve done it again.

Obama bloggers–paid or unpaid–have turned yet another democratic blog, the great MyDD, into an “obamablog”, where any statement critical of Obama is met with faux outrage, dismissal, and ridicule. The Obama people have smeared all democrats who do not fall in line with them. HRC supporters have been banned, warned, had their work edited, and “gang-troll rated” into oblivion.

MyDD has gone the way of daily kos.

The purpose of this diary is to respond to an earlier reccommended diary on the “signs of republican or McCain trolls”–or ways to spot what the author called “democrats supporting McCain.” The diary disturbed me as it seemed the penultimate way to trash every HRC supporter who said anything critical of Obama…in other words, “criticize Obama = republican troll”. The diary received many comments, and led subsequently to various commenters awarding “McCain points” to several HRC diarists in other posts, or to employ the “dismiss the argument” tactic by saying “is this snark?”

I don’t want the site’s obama people to forget that their behavior is transparent and how it is easy to see how they have approached and managed to take over so many blogs, and done so by maligning another democrat and half the democratic party that supports her.

There are essentially 5 characteristics of the Obama bloggers’ approach to eliminating HRC supporters, or dialogue about Obama on these sites. I give full credit to LavenderLiberal.com for the analysis, and add a few other things I’ve seen.

Basically it is a style of attack that is intended to eliminate and marginalize. It is not FOR Obama, it is AGAINST Clinton. In this manner, no issue about Obama is ever really discussed, even if it could effect the entire democratic party in November, even if that issue is raised for the purpose of dealing with it before it becomes an issue.

Here they are. Do your comments fit in here anywhere? Alternatively, have you been subject to any of these tactics yourself?

Attack/Gloat mode. ”Hillary is evil. Clintonistas are racist, uneducated old, irrelevant, paleofeminists, white-trash republican trolls (see the referenced diary above for spotting these mccain trolls).”
Threat Mode. ”If McCain wins, say good bye to roe v wade; say hello to the 100 year war, say goodbye to life on earth as we know it, and its all your fault”! And if Obama loses its because HRC continued her campaign through June 3rd!
Tantrum Mode. “Fine, go ahead and vote McCain, then! We don’t need you anyway! We’ve replaced you with millions of new voters! You were never a real democrat. The party is better off without you!”
Stark reality mode. Among themselves: “Oh shit…maybe we do need the Clintonistas in November!” To HRC supporters: “come on, we’re all democrats, we need to pull together, can’t we just get along?”
Over-confidence Mode. ”I’m not worried. HRC supporters will come around and vote Obama in Nov. After all, where else can they go? So let’s keep having fun beating them up!”

So, Obama people, spot yourselves as well as spotting the so-called “republican trolls”.

It’s been an interesting time here, but I am off to work for America. There is no convincing or reporting here, nor any real discussion.

As for me, I believe it is very important for the democrats to know who they’ve chosen if they go with Obama sometime next week as the “presumptive nominee”. Between now and August, my efforts on line, in the field of public discourse, and at the convention will be aimed at making sure the dems know who they’re getting in Obama. I am a proud life-long democrat and will still vote for the person I believe is the most qualified for POTUS in November

ohh please give it a rest with the limbaugh "operation chaos" BS. you folks need to accept you are dealing with the anger of thousands in your own party at this moment. if you think we are going to fall in line and support obama then do so at your own peril. i will stay and document whatever i wish. i have been on this site since inception and unless i have done something against posting rules then you can kiss off.

as far as highjacking...well i thought i was doing you folks a favour to see what is really happening internal in the democratic world ;-)instead of your delusions that all hilliary supporters were falling into the unity dance line.

oh, i forgot to post larry's link.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/07/theyve-done-it-again/

The thing that bothers me most about Michelle is the fact that she hasn't quite figured out the comment system yet.

this is just too funny...fake english????? you say tomotoe and i say tomato. you people are a gas.

I am speaking of demonstrably and obviously fake poor English such as typing the word 'seen' as 'scene' and other obvious errors.

The pundits and pollsters had it backwards. People didn't vote for Obama because they preferred his message of change to Hillary's message of experience. They preferred his message of change because in their gut they preferred Obama.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/drew-westen/nothing-went-wrong_b_105957.html

The worst thing for a troll is to get no response. So why does everyone continue to respond?

Set a troll trap; catch a troll. Interesting....

This Troll posted this over on Crooks and Liars.

michelle bociurkiw Says:

farraro was specking of OBAMA’s experience not blacks in general. to site that his luck and accepetance for blacks is representative to what many other blacks experience is unacceptable. there are some blacks who whites find accepetable. (how many times have i been told …well michelle your different)…once they find you acceptable they appreciate the ability to work with you to feel better about themselves and enjoy you as the wonderful person you are regardless of race. many of them will be the first to say the ole line…you know i’m not racist cuz i have black friends. whites here are going off track and are starting to insult blacks without realizing it. many in the country wish to end racism on some level. hence OBAMA, who is an “acceptable” black is benefitting from his race. he is also reasonably accomplished and well spoken. IMHO he is lite on the experience side in my book and i look forward to him cutting down a bit on his ambition and doing the real work that shows me who he really is on issues over the next 8 years. after that, i think he could be well qualified to be elected president.

March 12th, 2008 at 2:51 PM - PD

well to your point i do have an alias ... but please tell me where i have lied about my background. i am a female, black, democrat my entire life, 46 and live in the burbs of chicago. you folks are the liars not me who can not accept we are not supporting obama. accept it. and i would say i believe it is way more of us than you think. i will also not be surprised if more independents turn away from obama as well over time.

But you do more than that. You actively lie about your background in order to manufacture a spurious credibility on certain issues

mr bunny rabbit...mccain will not do anything regarding women reproductive rights. he won't be able to nominate anyone to radical as the veto proof democratic majority in the legislature will not allow it. you people are really a work of art. these scare tactics are quickly being nullified all over the country and will not work much longer.

i love it the dems have morphed into the "party of fear" tactics.

not a pretty site.

oh and bunny rabbit. you folks always tout how the dems had to attract across party lines (specifically republicans and independents) looks like hilliary was able to recruit larry. what's your beef.

did you know that arianna huffington and markos of KOS were also republicans? go figure.