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Networks cut war coverage


Reporters Say Networks Put Wars on Back Burner by Brian Stelter, New York Times Business, June 23, 2008. Excerpts:

 

....Interviews with executives and correspondents at television news networks suggested that while the CBS cutbacks are the most extensive to date in Baghdad, many journalists shared varying levels of frustration about placing war stories onto newscasts....

Both Ms. Logan and Mr. McCarthy noted that more coalition soldiers were killed in Afghanistan in May than in Iraq. No American television network has a full-time correspondent in Afghanistan, although CNN recently said it would open a bureau in Kabul.....

Mr. Friedman said coverage of Iraq is enormously expensive, mostly due to the security risks. He said meetings with other television networks about sharing the costs of coverage have faltered for logistical reasons.

Journalists at all three American television networks with evening newscasts expressed worries that their news organizations would withdraw from the Iraqi capital after the November presidential election. They spoke only on the condition of anonymity in order to avoid offending their employers.


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I hope that wasn't supposed to be surprising or anything. War is only interesting for the networks as long as it drives the ratings.

My suggestion - sell your teevee and let the bastards entertain themselves into oblivion.

Roger Waters was on to something... http://youtube.com/watch?v=uMijMWQlnUc

I'm thinking Howard Beale.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MTN3s2iVKKI

But yes, of course. It's no wonder.
The people don't care. I think it's something like 6% of people who regularly follow the war. People are over it. Current knowledge of fatalities and other relevant news regarding what's happening over there has steadily declined over the years. Anna Nicole. Paris Hilton. Better ratings. Obama vs. Hillary did pretty good for their ratings too.

And in any event, half of news-followers in general don't trust the media. It's no wonder, with stories like the Pentagon propaganda and the generals. I didn't see one primetime mention of that. It just disappeared, off into the ether.

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How old was that clip? Probably older than me at any rate.

Is it true that only 3% read books? I feel so elite...

It's from Network. Older than me too. 76. A classic though. Still just as relevant today. It's the same movie "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!" came from.

I don't know if that statistic is right or not. I woudn't be surprised.

It seems like the polls taken to determine regular readers and book sales don't always add up, but an AP poll from 2006 found that 1 in 4 hadn't read a single book in the last year, and that the "typical person" (median, I think) read about 4 books.

Here's a study from 2004, if you're interested.
http://www.nea.gov/news/news04/ReadingAtRisk.html

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Yeah, interested. It's not quite as bad, I'm not as elitist as I feared. Besides, the study was done before Harry Potter gained full force.

According to my very inaccurate statistics, I tend to read roughly 20 books a year, which likely makes me more than a bit suspect.

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If you haven't seen Network, you really should. Heck, it should be a requirement before using the blogsophere. Though its director and scriptwriter are famous hoity-toity intellectual types, the movie is a very enjoyable dark comedy with lots of very funny scenes. It actually predicted some things that would happen on television before they did (like Jerry Springer...)

The title of the top comment on it on imdb.com right now gets it pretty right: We Have Seen the Future, And It Sucks. Also note that it Won 4 Oscars. Another 14 wins & 19 nominations

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I wonder if it would still win any Oscars today.

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BTW, Digby's blog logo is Howard Beale from Network screaming.

It's the Bill Holden character that does it for me. Don't do it, buddy. You're a young man. Seriously, though, if they are withdrawing, the situation there must be improving more than I thought. Interesting.

Because the reporters are pulling out, it's a sign of improvement?

I'll tell you one thing though. It seems like this article was sparked by the Logan appearance on Jon Stewart. Comedy always cuts through the bullshit.

Carlin did that well.

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This isn't the fault of the American people, this is the fault of the networks and news organizations who choose not to cover the war. The networks actively chose not to offend the administration by airing stories that were critical of the war, that showed the daily carnage and/or kept the war in the forefront of the news.

News organizations claim that the people drive the news reportage and nothing could be further from the truth.

I tend to think that blame doesn't lie with one or the other, but rather both. If you look at studies of public awareness, it's fairly consistent that almost three times as many people can identify say, Arnold Schwarzenegger or Oprah, but only a quarter of the population know who Harry Reid is. The last Pew survey placed the number of people who could distinguish between Sunni and Shia at 62%, which I think is pretty good, but goes back to what I meant about the situation there being confusing. They've also shown that public awareness has declined as people's opinions of the war have solidified.

In 2007, Better Homes and Gardens, Good Housekeeping, and People magazine, among others, have higher circulation numbers than Time or Newsweek. Rarely are news shows on the highest rated lists of the week.

Part of the problem is that we're saddled with a corporate media that's driven by the buck and by extension, ratings. My utopian ideal of media is of course, to provide a service to the people, a source of knowledge. But the blame is two-fold. I can't say I've not been guilty of this. I've followed the election a lot more closely the past few months than I have the war.

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Hilary, I don't believe that the lack of news coverage is the fault of the American people. When the Vietnam war was raging, every night there would be a report on the status of the war, the number of soldiers killed/wounded, the administration's response to what was happening and often times, the war's opposition response. People didn't "lose interest" in fact, the opposite happened, more and more people turned against the war and the carnage.

The administration complained bitterly and incessantly that there was too much coverage and that the coverage was turning the people against the war. It was an active, conscious choice by this administration (whose members were part of the Nixom administration) to limit and discourage coverage of this war to exercise absolute control over the message. We also have a press that actively colluded and were complicit in promoting this war for many reasons, one being the perception that if they strayed off message they would lose "access" to the administration and their sources would dry up. (I won't get into the fact that they never had access anyway, because controlled access is no access.)

In the aftermath of the Vietnam war it was a common perception that the press was responsible for this country's loss of that war - if only the press hadn't been so negative, the American people would have persevered and the war would have been won. It is such a common perception that the press itself believes it to be true - the last thing they want is to be perceived as "anti American" or "unpatriotic" - they are terrified of being painted with that brush. Then we have organizations like NBC whose ownership directly benefits from the war industry, a company that makes far more profit from war than they do on the news division. Most of the major networks are owned by corporations who either profit or think that lack of support will hurt the bottom line. Would the Disney corporation allow themselves to be tainted with the label of "unAmerican" or "unpatriotic" if they aired negative or critical reports of the administration and the war? (Dan Rather, Peter Arnett, Phil Donahue, Leslie Bamfield are good examples of what happens when you do step out of line with the message.)

We have no idea if people have lost interest in this war or if they're bored or they don't want to know anything about it. We don't know that because there is no coverage and there hasn't been any coverage since it began. How can people lose interest in something that has never been covered in the first place and continues to appear less and less in any media? How do we know that more coverage would not make more people interested and apt to seek information? We don't. We take the media's word for it that people are bored and uninterested, a media that has a reason for promoting this meme.

There are many reasons why magazines have different circulation numbers, one of them is cost, one is interest and one is usefulness. You example of GH and Newsweek is a case in point - GH is 12.00 a year and Newsweek almost a 100.00 and while I won't get into all the variables of niche reading etc, I can tell you why I don't buy Newsweek and Time anymore - they're no longer news magazines. More often than not, their cover stories aren't "news" articles, they're pop culture articles which hold little if any interest to me. (I know why kids are fat - they eat junk food and don't exercise, a story Newsweek could have covered with one sentence.)

So yes, I do blame the media for this mess - their mission isn't to entertain, it isn't to opine and gossip, it is to inform and maybe if they did their job right they would create some interest in what is going on in the world.

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War is only interesting for the networks as long as it drives the ratings

Whether one likes it or not, I truly believe that the blogosphere audience and the cable news audience are pretty much in sync now. (Heck, Olberman often virtually repeats what's on TPM that day all the time, and Fox pounds the themes that are on the conservative blogs.)

If the blogosphere showed more interest in the war, they would give more coverage to it, despite the danger and the cost.

Ratings, as far as cable news coverage is concerned is "people power" driven by the blogosphere. Look, admit how much coverage of war is here versus horse race. TPM did not gain audience and lots more advertising dollars since the end of last year by posting about the war.

This is not the same as the broadcast news, of course. That's a different market.

You're absolutely right. You have to look for news on the war to find it. I can't really think of the last time it made the front page of the paper or the more prominent blogs. 5 year mark, maybe?

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Brings to mind the famous Pogo quote: "We have met the enemy... and he is us"

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That Walt Kelly quote works for me, as does Gandhi's “Be the change you want to see in the world" ... and both ring truer than the newfangled "We are the change that we seek" ...

No, we're not. That we should be, that we must become - something other than what we obviously are - is all good. To imagine that we already are all that is a bridge too far for some of us citizens of a certain country waging a certain kind of war that still rages on in our names.

Correct, Codengen86. It is public theater, not "news." It has always been thus. Obama versus McCain is the storyline that sells tickets. Watching people blow one another up is, yawn, borrrrrinnnnngggg.

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Well, certainly that a shallow interpretation. How effin droll.

No, boring it ain't. Not even remotely.

Political suicide it is. It is also the kind of engaging imagrey that tend to affect markets. not positively, either. Go figure. Historic trends, even.

Can't have that. No, no, we can't.

Best to ignore it. Best to be witty and flippant about death and destruction. It's so du monde, oui?

Bread and Circuses should hold all the shallow peeps. They usually do. It's the extraordinary that tend to be able to see through that.

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Yeah, one could commit suicide over it. Would that make you feel better?

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No, but showing a modicum of tact over the thousands of our fellow citizens that have, indeed, killed themselves over the war is obviously too much to ask.

Sometime I forget that there are quite a few crass louts on the net.

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My bad, blue thing.

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Well, considering that the majority party is so afraid to make it an issue that they vote every penny Bush wants for the war, it's hardly surprising.

Zappa "The slime from your TV set"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zeqA8cUE24E

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You all forgot to hit recommend.

Tsk

You know, I think part of the problem with the coverage of the war and everything that's going on in the Middle East is that it's so incredibly complicated. To understand what's going on you have to at least have a basic understanding the various sects and alliances between them, the political structure, previous military conflicts, some history of the region in general. Know how the other countries in the region come into play.

God knows no one in the media ever sat down with us one night to explain it to us. Back when this all started, there was a bunch of stuff I had to go back and read and look up just to get a grasp of what was going on. Hell, McCain can't even keep his Sunnis and Shia straight.

I start my day with Informed Comment by Juan Cole. He has an agenda, but he puts up good info and good links and moderates the comments to keep the thread on topic.

http://www.juancole.com/

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right next to the Stelter piece in the NYT print edition is this one that might interest you:

....“It seemed to me the appropriate time to at least plant the seeds for a kind of new integrity in Internet journalism,” Mr. Tow said....

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/23/business/media/23cuny.html

Interesting article, art. I'd say that's a great thing.

Juan Cole is good. Smart guy, and I generally agree with him, though I forget about that site alot. McClatchy isn't bad. Foreign papers. Multiple sources, I guess, to diffuse the power of any one source.

Very timely and helpful. Thank you.

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If you ever saw "Lawrence of Arabia" you know all you need to know.

How funny.

From my diary.

"My interests have led me far from my capabilities. I know almost nothing about the Middle East, having read only Seven Pillars of Wisdom, most of Paul Bowles, The Blind Owl, and the Qur'an, although I don't remember it. I don't speak any Middle Eastern languages. But, of course, for years I've followed the Middle East in the established media. And now my interests have led me to a torrent of information about the Middle East, coming at me from all sides in an onslaught of fact and opinion that I have great difficulty in getting my head around, and almost no chance of verifying as I jump from blog to blog from or about the Middle East and from Middle Eastern news site to Middle Eastern news site. Everyone has an agenda. Everyone has a point of view. Except me. I have no point of view. No vantage point. No place to stand. And I am constantly at risk of being swept away. And the most surprising thing is that nothing I read surprises me."

http://billyglad.blogspot.com/2007/04/nothing-surprises-me-now.html

We should not be forgetting our troops. They want to come home and 70% of this country wants them home. I hear reports of the success of the surge but were not hearing about the grit. This quote

Mr. Friedman said coverage of Iraq is enormously expensive, mostly due to the security risks.

implies that it's too freakin dangerous to send reporters. The coverage plays into McCain's talking points and ignores much of the reality there.

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The networks' coverage has gone from nil to nothing - when have they ever offered anything remotely considered "coverage" of this war? From the very beginning, when MSNBC fired Phil Donahue because he had "too many war protesters" on his show, to NBC/MSNBC firing Peter Arnett because (ostensibly, the reason was that he granted an interview with Iraqi television in which he commented that the war was not going well) his reports were negative and then let go Leslie Bamfield for the same reason, ruining her career, the message was loud and clear to reporters: give negative reports and out you go. The government after training reporters with the U.S. army, embedded them with units, making them totally dependent on those units for news and their very survival - they not only controlled the message, they controlled the messengers. It's interesting to note that the only journalists kidnapped and/or killed during this war were foreign journalists who were critical of it, an observation worth noting.

The media for the most part supported this war, like this administration they don't want you to know how terrible it is, how unsuccessful it has been and how horribly, tragically wrong they have been to support this. We've been told over and over again that the American people are bored or have lost interest but how true is that? I want to know what's going on, you want to know what's going on, don't you? And who is telling us this? It's the media who has truly lost interest in this war, who don't want to risk anything in covering it, although they are as culpable as this administration in promoting it - now that the "war" is over and the daily slaughter and violence has taken over, they no longer want to be reminded it of it - it's "too expensive" to cover it - can you imagine anything more crudely offensive than this claim? It's just business, you know, just business. They can spend three days and countless amounts of dollars and man hours producing tributes to a colleague paid 5,000,000 a year but they can't find the money to produce a one minute segment on kids making 20,000 a year who had their heads blown off or will never walk again so that they can sit on their asses in an air conditioned studio piusly praising the patriotism of someone who directly contributed to the death of that kid and the injuries sustained by countless others by his collusion and complicity in spreading the death message of this administration.

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