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Letter to Obama - Nunn Yes, Federal Gay Marriage No

As Nunn's name has been circulated I've seen a number of "leaders" in the gay community attack the idea, accompanied by the assertion that Obama's already throwing gays under the bus because of his lack of support for gay marriage.  So here's my response, in the form of a letter to our next Prez.

Dear President to be Obama,
     I think Nunn would be a great choice, and I'm an open, married (thanks Canada), non-self loathing gay man. I think he would be a great choice with one caveat. He would need to agree to do a mea culpa and turn around on the issue of gays in the military. And if he did, along with giving an impassioned explanation of why he was wrong, I think it would pave the way for that policy to finally be brought to an abrupt end.
     I like Nunn because he gives you strength in the areas the public has the most questions about now.  Also, he is old enough he won't be undercutting you as he looks at making his own run in 8 years.  He can instead play the supportive traditional role of VP.  Also, I expect that Sen. Clinton and her camp would support it because it would also mean she will have an open field in 8 hears.  
     If you do choose him, you'll need to keep him off of many domestic issues, but you know that already. So you can get the benefit and leave the old behind.
     On gay marriage, well, as one married man to another, please President Obama, stick to your position that its a state issue and that you personally are not in favor of it, but also completely oppose amending the U.S. Constitution on the issue and believe gays should have civil union rights. Stick to this postiion at least this go around because otherwise you will almost certainly lose. Also, its basically the strategy being used by the gay community of building victories and support state by state while staying out of the federal courts so it won't interfere with their work.  Meanwhile, it will allow you to bring an enlightened and cosmopolitan view of gays to the white house. I do expect you to really work on gay rights.  Your African American ancestors aren't the only ones who have faced lynchings in the past simply because of how they were born, and right now gays and blacks are probably running about even in bias motivated beatings.  So I need you to stick to the promises you made in Iowa and actually bring about some federal protections in the areas of jobs, credit, while also passing the necessary legislation to allow gays to protect their families with regard to medical decisions and financial matters.  
     So please continue to argue in support of expanding gay rights, but not to the point of gay marriage, because then you can actually be elected to work on these issues. And when some scream you are throwing the gays under the buss by not being in favor of federalized gay marriage, just know that many of us completely understand you are going as far as you can, and farther than any democratic nominee in the past, already. Also, personally, I can't stand the idea of what the Supreme Court would look like in a 5-6 years, when the federal cases that will result from out-of-staters getting married in Califnia make their way to that Court, if you let a Repub get in because you were stupid enough to throw the election away by coming out in favor of gay marriage. Instead let the gay community continue to build support for that particular issue, add Iowa to the list of states allowing gay marriage next year, and hopefully by the time you run for re-election you will have seen that gay marriage is really a good thing, and something you can support.  But don't even try to get there now.  You are great right where you are.
     And do consider Nunn. But only if he is willing to do an about face on his stance towards gays. I think you'll win pretty much whoever you pick but we could potentially carve out some significant victories in the South with Nunn. And in so doing bring along enough legislators to give you that working majority you've been talking about for the past 18 months.


Comments (8)

Surely Obama can do better than that.

Also as a matter of equal protection the federal government needs to acknowledge that it will recognize all state sanctioned same sex marriages.

You are likely right that he could do better than Nunn. But he could also do a lot worse. And I hope Obama seriously weighs the potentials with Nunn.

I agree the federal government should acknowlege all state sanctioned marriages, but there is the little law passed during the Clinton admin that prohibits it. And there is no way the present Supreme Court (or Congress) ill overturn (which is why the national gay orgs have ZERO federal lawsuits going on this issue and have successfully encouraged private plaintiffs not to head to the federal courts at this time). Maybe a Congress feeling strong after Obama brings in a healthy majority, or a Supreme Court in which he's added one or two solidly progressive voices. But not right now. And certainly not under a McCain administration or with the judges he would appoint.
Sometimes I feel, when people present the all or nothing scenario to politicians, that the concept of the rights is as, or even more, important than actually having the rights. For me, the rights are first and foremost as my first priority is protecting my family. So I'm among those who would be thrilled to accept separate and "kind of equal" for the time being and as the stage is set for real equality. Believe me, its much better than separate and "shit of luck" when a couple faces medical emergencies within the family.

ye gods, it all looked error free before I sent. Need new glasses I guess. I won't try to correct them all but that should read "Shit out of luck."

Seems like a smart and reasonable comment to me.

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The government should stay out of the 'marriage' business! i.e. Separation of Church and State.

It's a religous and/or moral issue depending on the person's stance you're either agreeing or arguing with regarding this topic. It doesn't matter really which position is touted, because either one should be out of bounds for any government entity to legislate laws pro or against.

Same story about gays in military - Don't ask - Don't tell! Yeah, well if that soldier standing next to my child (or not) in a war zone is helping protect me and/or mine - trust me, the last thing I'll ask or care about is his/her sexual orientation.

And please, don't anyone come back and try to interject other issues such as 'illegal drugs', prostitution, etc. These are very different issues.

Note: I'm a christian, 'straight' female, but firmly believe in Equal Rights For All. Don't you?

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Here is a very strong reason why Sam Nunn should not be on the ticket:

NUNN, Samuel Augustus, (grandnephew of Carl Vinson), a Senator from Georgia; born in Macon, Bibb County, Ga., September 8, 1938;

He will turn seventy in September. You can not project a more youthful energetic profile than John McCain's if you are willing to have some one of a similar age on your own ticket.

Further more, Sam Nunn, even in his prime, projected all the personality and charisma of a Botoxed basset hound.

Like I said, no threat whatsoever, but the chattering class in D.C. and New York would be orgasmic over the choice.

This argument about gay marriage is a red herring. EVERY LEGAL MARRIAGE IS BY DEFINITION A CIVIL UNION. Nothing more, nothing less. The State has no authority whatsoever to "sanctify" a union between two individuals, therefore a legal marriage is NOT AT ALL the same thing as the religious union referred to as marriage.

The core problem here is that legal marriage is a violation of the Constitutional separation of Church and State. The State should not be involved in marriage.

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