I found her speech to be ok. I stll do not want Hillary to be VP for Obama. I do not trust her. She lied about the Northern Ireland Peace Treaty, the Bosnia visit, and tried to pad her resume to make it appear she had more experience than she did.

I also do not trust her because of her frequent comments about working class white voters and her stating that she is staying in the race because like RFK, Obama could be assassinated! That was appalling. Clinton cannot handle finance. her campaign is now $2-30 million in debt. NOBODY who mismanages their money is fit to be a Prez.

i have no problems with her at all and never felt she was being racist nor her husband. actually i though it was jesse jacksin jr who started the race baiting when interviewed after hiulliary cried and stated that he had not scene her cry for the hurricane katrina victims. in all honesty blacks have participated in playing the race card to their benefit in a way i have never thought possible. sorry if i don't follow your racial party line. i guess since over 53% of african americans want her on the ticket they got over it pretty quick.

53% of African Americans want her on the ticket?

Really?

Just goes to show doesn't how little connect there is between the internet and the majority of people out there.

Because if you go to the African-American websites there's nothing but loathing for the Clintons now - they feel utterly betrayed by them.

(There was possibly some ambiguity about tge race baiting until the hard working white Americans comment. That one completely finished them off.)

The 53% surprises me. I wonder if it's because they think their Barack will have a better chance with Clinton on the ticket.

many of the black sites are typically filled with hate...what,s new? i guess it's like the wright experience obama explained that was typical of the black experience.

It's over for me. Beat John McCain.

Yes, she race-baited.

No, her speech didn't change my negative views of her. She didn't apologize for race-baiting.

And as for the 53%, er . . . black folks do want to win. And although I personally don't want her near the ticket, most of us know that realistically, after the primaries, white people will feel better voting for Obama if they can vote for her, too. I actually wouldn't mind her being on the ticket myself if I thought she'd actually let Obama be the president.

Oh, and about the 53% . . . where'd that number come from, anyway?

her speech did what it was supposed to do--show unity, encourage her supporters to look beyond obama, the black man who some of them do not trust, but look to his policies and his party affiliation which is more in line with their wants than mccain...

as far as the race baiting and the implication that obama is less than for some reason other than the obvious, i do not expect too many african americans to ever hold the clintons in the same regard as they once did..this close race showcased the worst of the clintons....it proves that if you want something bad enough, you will say and do just about anything to get it....

i was proud of hillary to do b/c it must have been difficult to deliver such a perfect speech knowing how she truly feels. i am 100% certain that she will cast her support towards getting obama nominated...i am also 100% certain that if some misfortune befalls obama, she will be all too happy for it....i am also 100% certain that this is politics and she has every bit as much to lose as obama if she doesnt do the right thing and show unwavering support for his candidacy...i am 100% convinced that obama should find a position for her dealing with health care, but keep her away from the VP slot at all cost...i am 100% certain that the dems will reclaim the white house...

i am not african american, i am hispanic and i will never forget the ugly side of the clintons and the hidden ugly side of the dems. ...the truth is, we are a country divided by race and anything less than white have to constantly grovel, go above and beyond, jump through hoops to earn a tiny iota of respect..

i am 100% convinced that i backed the right candidate all along-OBAMA..he never sold his soul for this nomination..he won it fair and square and in the face of adversity on both ends, he stil managed to say and do the right thing, always giving HRC the ultimate respect she obviously deserves..

like a humble servant, i am proud of hrc for her support....i do not and will not ever trust her, but i understand politics and would willingly support her as i have done in the past for any other post except for VP to Obama..the woman is smart, has strong convictions..what's there not to admire? i vote on issues anyway, so regardless, i could not vote against my interest.......

on to the white house DEms...and gracious thank you HRC for your support...

with respect~

It was a great speech in that it did what it needed to do and it was positive--something she struggled with throughout her campaign.

In terms of how I feel about the Clintons....I think their behavior was horrendous, disrespectful and dangerous. They were so narcissistic and felt so entitled to the nomination, they didn't care, she didn't care that she might do serious damage to a fellow Democratic candidate, who happens to be a biracial black man. And she still hasn't stepped up to the plate to acknowledge what Obama's win means in terms of American race-relations. Those 18 million cracks of the patriarchal glass ceiling are not any more or less important then the millions of cracks that shattered the racist glass ceiling.

They gave too much ammunition to the Republicans and relied on all the classic tools a
(and language) of white institutional racism. They remain greatly diminished in my eyes.

I have friends that are AA. They say you think the Jews made a quick exodus from Egyp,you never seen people leave a candidate as fast as they left the Clinton's.They remember helping Bill after he was impeached along with moveon.org.
If the AA hadn't rallied around Bill,he was headed out of office.

THE CLINTON'S HAVE LOST 92% OF THEM FOR SURE. ALL BECAUSE HILLARY WANTED TO DIVIDE THE PARTY BY RACE.

I'm white as hell and I don't think I can forgive them. I think her speech was excellent in that it tried to get HER VOTERS to come over to Obama. African Americans were not her voters, so she didn't spend any time on them.

The thing that amazes me is that Bill Clinton is reportedly EXTREMELY ANGRY that the Obama campaign "made him out to be a racist"! Holy shit batman - he's serious! I don't think the Clintons are racist except in the sort of unconscious, unintended way that lots of us are. I'm quite sure I'm not immune to it myself, hard as I try to be aware of my attitudes. But they're clearly cynical enough politically to USE and manipulate other people's racism against a black candidate. And if that's not just as bad, then my moral compass is all screwed up.

Hillary's speech satisfied me in terms of doing what she needed to do to help Obama among her supporters. I don't really care about the Clintons beyond that. I don't care whether they're good or evil people or whatever combination. I don't see myself forgiving them until and unless they understand what they did and admit to it and that's not gonna happen. But I don't care and they don't care about that. I just want them to be largely irrelevant to me/us from now on. Hopefully, they will be. They're damn straight closer to irrelevant than they were a year ago.

No, i won't forget the behavior of the Clintons or their supporters. Now that Barack has won the nomination, i guess i feel more sadness than anger. I wonder would any of the other Democratic contenders have acted this way if they were closer to the nomination and wanted to discredit Barack? It's hard to imagine John Edwards or Dennis Kucinch saying in essence, "vote for me cause i'm white". But, then i never expected this from of ALL PEOPLE, the Clintons. And Hillary's supporters either can't see what they did or don't care! I don't understand that in any way, but racism. They're angry, i understand, but Barack has always treated Hillary with compassion and respect, yet many of her supporters can't see that either. It seems that we black Democratics should examine more closely who our political allies are and what do they really think of us. I will say that if , with the help of corporate news, election fraud, October surprise, and still irrationally pissed-off Hillary supporters john mccain gets the presidency, as the world crumbles around us , Hillaryluvs remember this, WHEN IT HAPPENS TO ME, IT WILL HAPPEN TO YOU!

I think the biggest disappointment of this primary season is the end of the love affair I had with the Clintons. Guess what...I'm Black. So for me, some of my friends, and some of my family members, that meant supporting Democrats, and especially the Clintons. But not this time.

I went into this thing with my eyes wide open. After the 2000 election, and then the disastrous Iraq war, I said I would never again take my vote so lightly and would become more politically aware. So my first strike against HRC was not her race, despite what some of these commenters have said, it was her short sighted decision to vote for the Iraq war. Yes, I realize that HRC represents New York and that it was a scary time for all Americans, but that's just it. That's when you need to employ your leadership skills and approach a monumental decision with a level head. Its not that I couldn't forgive her for that mistake, because many Democrats made the same one, it was her unwillingness to actually admit that she made the mistake and then dememphasize the fact that despite Barack not having a dog in the fight so to speak (because he was not in the Senate) his prediction of the problems with this war were spot on. I mean, so perceptive that it is scary. So, while I had my doubts about this newcomer, his ability to see, what so many others failed to see despite their years of "experience" made me bend my ear a little more whenever he spoke. Now, even though I liked Barack more at the beginning, I didn't have a problem voting for HRC because I thought she still had other admirable qualities that would make her a good leader. But, as the campaign has progressed, she has left much to be desired.

Let's just leave the race baiting off the table for a minute. Back in NH, I was extremely pissed that she chose to distort his pro-choice record in order to gain votes. I thought that it was dishonest and showed a lack of class. And then, there seemed to be consistent race baiting coming from her surrogates. I gave her the benefit of the doubt because it wasn't coming directly from her mouth, but as time went on, it started to make me feel uncomfortable because it seemed like it was a strategy/tactic. I think what really put me over the top was her comments after the Louisiana primary. To explain her loss, she said that she understood the historic nature of the campaign in why people (Black people) preferred Obama.

I am the first to admit that many Black people voted for Obama because of racial pride, but that was the most condescending thing she could have said. Black people are NOT a monolithic group. It totally ignored the fact, that she still had die hard Black supporters rooting for her, and that maybe people didn't vote for her because they preferred Obama as a candidate in that matchup for nonracial reasons.

All that to say that I don't think either Bill or Hillary are racists, but I do get the sense that they felt Black people "owed" them their vote because of the Clinton presidency, and we were supposed to shut our eyes and ears to their questionable behavior.

The Clintons weren't being racist -- they were being disloyal and they were inflaming the racism of others for their own personal benefit. That's worse, and it's offensive and harmful to all of us (Living in a racist society hurts all of us, especially the group that is supposedly 'superior')

I don't think an apology - to blacks especially but to all of us - is enough. In fact, I think the only thing that might be appropriate "atonement," if you will, would be for the Clintons to work their heart out -- effectively not in a way that sabotages -- to help get Obama elected. THEN maybe it would be time for some healing discussions.

(And don't be mean about Stephanie Tubbs Jones -- At least SHE, and many others, DO understand about loyalty and committment. I'm sure there were many Clinton supporters who would have held back or endorsed differently if they'd known 1) how the Clintons' campaign would be run and 2) that Barack Obama was going to be the kind of candidate he was. I don't envy them and truly respect those - like Jones, Bayh, Rangel, Rendell - who carried out their committment without becoming divisive and mean-spirited.)

Well, it's over so this rehash is of limited value.

Basically just before South Carolina when HRC was falling behind badly, she looked around for a way to criticize Obama (pre Wright). One way was the Commander in Chief dig, another was the "might be a Christian" dig, and another was the he only here cuz he's black dig. She (and Bill, and Ferraro and Wolfson) tried them all and they didn't get much traction. For a while she had no good message. "Experience" fell flat during a change election and "Ready on Day One" was less impressive when she lost Iowa on day one. Eventually she morphed into Norma Rae, and that slowed the hemorrhage in PA, OH, TX and a little in IN. It wasn't enough.

Did she try out the race card. Yeah, a little. Kinda clumsily. Is she a racist. No. Did it obliterate her black support. Yup. Did it get a few white votes. Probably. Did it give a lot of blacks and a lot of whites, Asians and Latinos who dislike politicians (of any color or even half-color) who play the race card a reason to support Obama. Yup. Smart move. Nope. She just didn't have another one.

"There it is. Deal with it."

There's nothing to deal with. As I said, as a practical matter, it matters a damn. If you want to think that 90+% of all the black people who voted in the Democratic promary are racists, go ahead.

"So now all the blacks who have been lifelong friends and allies of the Clintons are complicit in "racist tactics" ??? Do you have any idea how laughable that sounds to someone who doesn't see the world through your racial baggage?"

Not all, but some, yes. And it doesn't sound laughable at all to a whole lot of black people...like many of those who live in the districts of Tubbs-Jones and Sheila Jackson-Lee, for instance. When their constituients pay them back by voting them out of office, Hillary won't be able to help them. Remember, the majority of the people in their districts are part of that 92% of "black racists" who voted for Obama, LOL.

That's the thing, hollywood. You and people like you can flog all that up-is-down racial rhetoric in which I'm a "racist", and in which the only racism that exists is black racism that exists is black, but it's just rhetoric. When it comes down to it, it has no practical negative effect on blacks in America. Sorry. If anything, it will have a positive effect by convincing us that we should indeed cultivate the emotional disconnect many of us have in regard to this country, and motivate us to see that it's all about group competition, and stop us from being duped into thinking otherwise. So...keep it up, please.