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High Gas Prices Are The Democrats Fault .."Democrats Won't Let Us Drill!"

According to Heidi Somebody just on MSNBC HardBall.  Not my favorite background noise but even so...seriously?

Although, I like the interpretation that apparently Democrats have control over everything. ;)


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OMG, I saw her too. She's saying, on behalf of McCain, that offshore drilling in Alaska is the answer to all our problems and that Obama's desire to change what type of energy we depend on is a waste of time....and energy.

As far as I'm concerned, her appearance on Hardball was a waste of her time....and energy.

Maybe not if smart people like us (wink) see the rediculousness of it.

Let's make all the holes we can in the United States, to hell with the environment. Let's turn the country into one big Texas oil field and keep making the fat cats fatter. Why bother looking for other energy sources, clean energy options? The status quo has worked so well so far...

Well said.

And, don't laugh at me, please, because I'm no scientist, but: It's my hope that people in the know, about drilling, are cognizant of and are doing tests of the affects of sucking up layers of old decayed dinosaurs who lay under plates of soil and rock that have been settling for ages right above those layers of old decayed dinosaurs. Again, don't laugh, but it just makes me think of a well-built ice cream malted shake that collapses after the straw hits the bottom of the glass and all the liquid is sucked out.

(Prepares to get smacked down by a geological scientist who happens to be reading TPM at this moment in time.)

This is really a narrative that needs to be put to rest.

I don't have the information on hand, but I've heard some pretty pathetic evaluations of the ANWR oil reserve, i.e. it wouldn't last more than a few years, it's a fraction of the size of other oil reserves, etc.

You don't have the information on hand. Come back when you do -

Hey, since we started with MSNBC, why not let them answer this question as well. Here's their answer:

Opening an Alaska wildlife refuge to oil development would only slightly reduce America’s dependence on imports and would lower oil prices by less than 50 cents a barrel, according to an analysis released Tuesday by the Energy Department.

(OK, technically that's coming from the DOE—it's just on the MSNBC web-site.)

Note: that's 50 cents a barrel. So, we might go from $134 down to $133.50. What are we waiting for?!?

Woops - I was trying to respond to Customer0012. But I guess I should have scrolled down. I think you quoted the same article I linked :)

I've heard that, too.  Here's an article - it's a few years old but the general consensus hasn't changed.

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Cool. While we're rolling eyes at Heidi what'shername, can we also roll eyes at Tucker's assertion that Obama should offer to end affirmative action because "everybody" knows it's wrong, even though that's (a-a being wrong, that is) contrary to the facts.

Consider eyes rolled.

And consider affirmative action to mean all races, ages, people. The point? Affirmative. Action.

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thnx!

Hey 12,

There have been a lot of good stories on ANWR and so forth at The Oil Drum. For example:

The USGS published in 2005 a report (FS2005-3043) on the central part of Alaska - Central North Slope – putting undiscovered Oil and Natural Gas resources at 4 Gb and 37 Tcf. In addition to that there's the potential of 7.7 Gb and 4 Tcf for the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) (FS2005-1217) and also at the National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska (NPRA). The KIC well drilled in 1985 in the ANWR is still confidential, despite the rule of becoming public after only a few years! All these estimates seem in disagreement with the creaming curve. But the USGS past approach since 2000 has been too optimistic, where only one geologist is simply guessing solely the number of discoveries and the size to be forecast (seventh approximation sheet) and then a Monte Carlo run (50 000 transforms) These wild guesses result into a beautiful distribution that looks real. A better approach should be hoped for, based on the complete past data reviewed by several geologists.

The closest developed field to ANWR is Badami, operated by BP, with an initial estimate of 120 Mb for 300 M$. It was abandoned in 2003 after 4 years of production, totalling 4 Mb with a peak of 3150 b/d in 1999, ten times less than expected! For the Mackenzie delta (FS2006-302) the USGS estimates undiscovered Oil at 10 Gb, Condensate at 4 Gb and Natural Gas at 87 Tcf.

(Emphasis added.)

I'm no petrochemist, but I think they present a compelling case that we can't produce our way out of our problems with oil. Conservation, greater efficiency, reducing waste, and coming up with new fuels is the way to go.

I am in awe...

Thank you for putting a real bite behind my thought.

You're welcome.

Please note, though, that a lot of the publicly available data can have multiple interpretations. My personal bias is that things aren't as rosy as those who want to drill in ANWR and the Gulf of Mexico and off California say, but I can't argue from a position of authority that they're wrong. I just don't think that they've presented a compelling case that it makes sense to invest billions of dollars in bringing that new oil to market rather than spending that same amount of money on developing more efficient transportation equipment, reducing waste, etc.

I think I can say, though, that one should always take opinions on technical matters by TV talking heads with a gigantic grain of salt. ;-)

It may be a grain of salt by them, but you've provided a whole shaker full for me. Thanks

The new definiton of compassionate conservative is an oil man who sells vaseline cheap...

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