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High Gas Prices Are The Democrats Fault .."Democrats Won't Let Us Drill!"
According to Heidi Somebody just on MSNBC HardBall. Not my favorite background noise but even so...seriously?
Although, I like the interpretation that apparently Democrats have control over everything. ;)
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Comments (16)
OMG, I saw her too. She's saying, on behalf of McCain, that offshore drilling in Alaska is the answer to all our problems and that Obama's desire to change what type of energy we depend on is a waste of time....and energy.
As far as I'm concerned, her appearance on Hardball was a waste of her time....and energy.
June 10, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe not if smart people like us (wink) see the rediculousness of it.
Let's make all the holes we can in the United States, to hell with the environment. Let's turn the country into one big Texas oil field and keep making the fat cats fatter. Why bother looking for other energy sources, clean energy options? The status quo has worked so well so far...
June 10, 2008 8:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well said.
And, don't laugh at me, please, because I'm no scientist, but: It's my hope that people in the know, about drilling, are cognizant of and are doing tests of the affects of sucking up layers of old decayed dinosaurs who lay under plates of soil and rock that have been settling for ages right above those layers of old decayed dinosaurs. Again, don't laugh, but it just makes me think of a well-built ice cream malted shake that collapses after the straw hits the bottom of the glass and all the liquid is sucked out.
(Prepares to get smacked down by a geological scientist who happens to be reading TPM at this moment in time.)
June 10, 2008 8:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is really a narrative that needs to be put to rest.
I don't have the information on hand, but I've heard some pretty pathetic evaluations of the ANWR oil reserve, i.e. it wouldn't last more than a few years, it's a fraction of the size of other oil reserves, etc.
June 10, 2008 9:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
You don't have the information on hand. Come back when you do -
June 10, 2008 10:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, since we started with MSNBC, why not let them answer this question as well. Here's their answer:
(OK, technically that's coming from the DOE—it's just on the MSNBC web-site.)
Note: that's 50 cents a barrel. So, we might go from $134 down to $133.50. What are we waiting for?!?
June 11, 2008 9:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Woops - I was trying to respond to Customer0012. But I guess I should have scrolled down. I think you quoted the same article I linked :)
June 11, 2008 9:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
I've heard that, too. Here's an article - it's a few years old but the general consensus hasn't changed.
June 11, 2008 9:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Cool. While we're rolling eyes at Heidi what'shername, can we also roll eyes at Tucker's assertion that Obama should offer to end affirmative action because "everybody" knows it's wrong, even though that's (a-a being wrong, that is) contrary to the facts.
June 10, 2008 9:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Consider eyes rolled.
And consider affirmative action to mean all races, ages, people. The point? Affirmative. Action.
June 10, 2008 10:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
thnx!
June 11, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey 12,
There have been a lot of good stories on ANWR and so forth at The Oil Drum. For example:
(Emphasis added.)
I'm no petrochemist, but I think they present a compelling case that we can't produce our way out of our problems with oil. Conservation, greater efficiency, reducing waste, and coming up with new fuels is the way to go.
June 10, 2008 10:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am in awe...
Thank you for putting a real bite behind my thought.
June 10, 2008 10:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're welcome.
Please note, though, that a lot of the publicly available data can have multiple interpretations. My personal bias is that things aren't as rosy as those who want to drill in ANWR and the Gulf of Mexico and off California say, but I can't argue from a position of authority that they're wrong. I just don't think that they've presented a compelling case that it makes sense to invest billions of dollars in bringing that new oil to market rather than spending that same amount of money on developing more efficient transportation equipment, reducing waste, etc.
I think I can say, though, that one should always take opinions on technical matters by TV talking heads with a gigantic grain of salt. ;-)
June 10, 2008 11:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
It may be a grain of salt by them, but you've provided a whole shaker full for me. Thanks
June 10, 2008 11:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
The new definiton of compassionate conservative is an oil man who sells vaseline cheap...
June 11, 2008 12:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
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