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Chief Justice Roberts Shows The Majority of Lawyers Can Be Wrong On Impeachment

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For the third time in re POWs, the Supreme Court reminded the President the Constitution still applies. The majority again opposed the President, but the Chief Justice is in denial:

"The majority is equally wrong"

Earth to Chief Justice Roberts, 
You lose. You're wrong. 

The Majority decided the Chief Justice and other lawyers are in the minority on Constitutional issues. When given a chance to vote, the "lawyers" learn the hard way: They might be on the wrong side of the Constitution.
Equally wrong on issues of impeachment.
One of the lawyer's jobs is to maintain public confidence in your profession, not sandbag the discussion out of fear the public might have a different view. You failed to make your case. You lost. Time to step aside, and let the adult leadership -- not in the legal community -- examine facts, review, and make decisions about whether the charge the President and others with a crime; or decide something else.
* Impeachment Is Required, Otherwise Americans Are Not Civilized
Here is the plain language showing impeachment is a required legal tool for the American lawyers to use to enforce Geneva, otherwise they are not civilized:

"Under any civilized judicial system he could have been impeached and removed from office or convicted of malfeasance"
The Speaker needs to be removed, not enabled. It is reckless for anyone to argue impeachment should be taken off the table before examining facts of the case. Nuremberg requires impeachment or prosecutions to enforce the laws of war.

lawyers show they are not Gods, not divine saints, but fallible creatures, needing oversight. Had the vote gone the other way on Habeas, and the prisoners still denied a right to challenge their detention, the Italian War Crimes prosecutor might be discussing prosecuting the Supreme Court Justices per the Nuremberg Precedents.
* Lazy, Incompetent, Unimaginative Lawyers
The American lawyers have recklessly refused to assert power, check their own, nor aggressively challenge this President. The lawyers are the domestic enemies. They need better oversight, a tighter leash, and they do not control the government. The Constitution does.
The lawyers have assaulted the Constitution, and left it to wither in the wind, demanding the public accept their excuses for laziness.

* Unresponsive Lawyers Should Not Be Respected
We the People retain sovereignty. We may -- without notice -- compel the legal community to justify why anyone should continue paying them any money for their reckless assent to this President's and this Speaker's rebellion against the Constitution. The lawyers have put partisan goals before the legal requirement of Nuremberg to either impeach or prosecute. No lawyer has discretion to assent to war crimes; nor remain complicit. Your clients have apparently told you to not fully assert your oaths, and you have illegally obliged. Your illegal activity shows your judgement is flawed.

The problem is not the voters. The problem is the leadership and the reckless legal counsel who have not timely confronted this President's confrontation with the rule of law. The problem is the leadership's failure and the laziness of legal counsel to mobilize and organize to timely correct the problem:

Reckless, incompetent legal counsel and leadership.

Lawyers need wakeup calls. The impeachment would focus their lazy minds on facts today, not elections tomorrow. 
Nuremberg reminds us that when the lawyers pretend they know best -- which they do not, as evidenced by this continued assault on the Constitution for seven (7) years, without a timely remedy or resolution -- they forget who or what they're working for. 
Your oath is to the Constitution. Your excuse has been the election, the voter, or the lack of time. That is not leadership. Your real loyalty is to your client, not the Constitution.

* Unacceptable String of Abuses Under This Tyrant
Those who are satisfied with the home raids, intrusions upon our personal communications, warrantless interrogations, accusations on the presumption of guilt, you are free to do nothing: You have what you enjoy. Those who would like to discuss solutions, or consider alternative forms of oversight -- which is a lawful discussion -- you are free to present your views.

If the lawyers knew what they were doing, they would have -- in 1789 -- discussed the solution that would have prevented this problem: Reckless legal counsel advising a tyrant.  Self evidently the reckless, lazy, incompent legal community still -- after 200 years -- has no solution, but devised methods to exploit the American public's misplaced trust in "experts" and "leaders".
If you are satisfied with the state of affairs, there is no reason to fear a discussion about possible solutions. Legal counsel who -- for 200 years -- provide no leadership or solutions to ensure this abuse does not happen, cannot credibly ask any American to care that they are a lawyer, that they are certified, or that they are accredited to practice law. 
Those standards of "professional competence" have given us what we have: A tyrant and excuses to do nothing, while pointing to the possible shift in political winds. 

Where is the leadership in the American legal community to confront these war crimes, and alleged complicity of legal counsel with violations of Geneva and the Supreme Law?

The oath does not require any American to show deference, respect, or loyalty to those in the legal community who make excuses to do nothing, and rubber stamp legislation.
* DNC and GOP Legal Counsel Excuses For Complicity

The GOP today -- as a minority -- is still able to block the solutions. The DNC -- when it was the minority -- cannot explain why it did not block the unconstitutional bills. The lawyers rolled over.
No American should look to this leadership and believe the lawyers have done anything to help. They've rolled over, made excuses, and remain fearful of fully asserting legislative power. That's not something Americans are obliged to follow, respect, or continue.
Article II lawyers have run circles around the American legal community. One would think, in a system of checks and balances that worked, the lawyers in the ARticle I branch would have reciprocated, fully asserted their oath, and devised a plan to respond. There was no plan, but capitulation.
This lazy crew thinks it can "not rock the boat," secure a political victory, and start with their agenda: More capitulation, excuses, and thwarting discussions. The same people who refuse to entertain solutions today are the same ones repeating the abuses of the GOP and DNC leadership:
"Oh, we have more important things to do than the Constitution." No they don't. The error is their misplaced agenda, reckless loyalty, and unwavering commitment to the illusion of competence. 200 years, and the legal community still has no legislative agenda to timely thwart this abuse of power. "Trust us" was the refrain of this PResident on WMD; and the same noise from the GOP-DNC lawyers in 2008.
* America's Lawyers Have Not Fulfilled Their Legal Obligations To the Constitution
We see no reason or evidence to trust the lazy, incompetent, and unhelpful legal community. They deserves to be closely monitored, patrolled, and independently audited. The arrogant notion that a DNC lawyer is "better suited" for leadership defies reason. Lawyers, self evidently, are not leaders, statesmen, nor Generals: They're lawyers. The American lawyers have made a mess of Katrina, Iraq, Afghanistan, and the United States Constitution. 
They refuse to remove themselves, nor confront the leadership with an impeachment investigation. They are complicit. Their legal machine is glacially responsive to the Constitution, if the weather if favorable.
* The Looming War Crimes Problem for American Lawyers

The lawyers have not shown they can competently lead, advise, provide inputs, or make policy. But their reckless policies have given us illegal warfare, continued funding for that illegal activity, and no solution but excuses. The lawyers have not shown they can be trusted. They need to be prosecuted for complicity with war crimes. America's leaders are not leading that effort to reform the legal community. The public is not required to remain loyal to any lawyer or any tyrant who puts their personal agenda of power before the Constitution.
No American is obliged to follow, respect, or trust these lawyers who have led us astray, but then demand that we take responsibility for their betrayal. Americans have not seen leadership, but cowardly complicity from the American legal community. American citizens are not beholden to the American legal community. We are not your employees.
You work for us. You can be fired. And prosecuted.
The burden of proof, as always lies with the lawyer, not with the Client or the Constitution. Without notice, you can be fired, arrested, and adjudicated with war crimes. The public has the needed legal justification to unleash the full weight of the Constitution and Nuremberg precedents.
You wished this.


Comments (3)

Impeachment is Kewl!

I took a little wonder at the Universe after I read this - it's thunder and lightening up there in the skies which sparks a little need for reflection. Made me think about what's coming and the reluctance of the "genteel" to accept REALity and the damage that has been done to MurKKKan prestige and the spirit of The People.

Alberto Moro was quite elequent on the topic today about the costs of the GWOT. And the hint was there they don't trust our new "candidates" to come up with anything better either; they'll just call the new 'enemy' somthing different than terrorists. Hope you'll bear with me.

THOUGHTS: I wrote an article last fall along much the same lines as in "what's the matter with these friggin lawyers - and David Swanson" which actually got published. I was completely frustrated with the fact no one blockades Conyers' office daily until he realizes what he's (not) doing. I find the legal inaction the most horrible thing about all this refusal to impeach and hold accountable. I read Beyond the Law and realized how much is actually at stake in the land where the giant 9/11 party has been going on for too long - longer than WWII and it was all pointed out to the lawyers early on.

The only thing I think is that some of the TPM readers/lawyers have NO idea what the lack of LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS actually is. The young on other forums are totally agitated when they think about how close to total breakdown the legal system is ..

Like the pResident, no one with the Crown of position/"respectability" wants to take responsibility, it seems in a certain age group and the young know this.

Point: as in an addiction, most professional MurKKKans just haven't bottomed out yet and are still on an adrenalin "high" after the plug-in drug has deceived them for far too long. It's like they like the CARTOON images they see of the war rather than feeling the pain of what the tyranny has wrought.

They don't think they need a DECLARATION Of INDEPENDENCE first before a Constitional understanding .. They don't get how the Imperium pResident is screwing them and their children over and they sure don't empathesize with the victims (which they rarely look at). In blunt terms, the GWOT has bankrupted MurKa and that should force them into a DOI right away. Many lawyers are right hooked into their conditioning instead and the toxic tonic of an "election"; they don't learn from their mistakes.

You are innocent until proven guilty - but the lawyers have proven themselves GUILTY; they pronounced the verdict on themselves. Where was the ACLU in calling for impeachment? Were they steam-rollered by Cheney and Pelosi and the high and mighty Harry Reid? Why don't the staffers in DC who have a legal education just quit? Why aren't these legal beagles (not eagles) handing out flyers at every single intersection? Why aren't they giving talks to hs civics classes on what impeachment and Geneva mean? Where are the Nuremberg lessons they might be giving? These types of questions are endless.

Most lawyers may be good and decent people (most people are) - but on this impeachment/Geneva issue they surely need to have their asses hauled into court! The psychosis in MurKa needs to be addressed or they should be sent to the asylum.

For those who think I am being harsh; take a good look - today the first major earthquake to present a REAL heavy scenario erupted in the ring of fire - in Japan. Two nuke plants are threatening to irradiate that country. What's coming to N. AmeriKa will make Katrina look like a cakewalk.

What's it gonna take - more infrastructure breakdowns - before these Fat Cats with the scenic windows throwing sunlight on their Black's dictionaries to get the picture the young are seeing? It was Chernobyl that brought down the USSR and is it gonna something that catastrophic before you get through to their feeble brains and plastic hearts? How many more months of denial?

Yup, folks, face it. It would have been nice to get RULE OF LAW on the table before the shite hit the fan .. and it would be nice if just for ONE DAY these legal schmeegle guyz/galz sat down and had a real good look at the state of their hahaha patriotic souls. [and really, don't they care one bit about the suffering of others?] Without impeachment now there is no social contract and no ability for the MurKKKan nation to have relations with her neighbors of the world. I hope Alberto Moro gets through to them what a STRATEGIC disadvantage the US now has and they panic! and do something FAST. Maybe we create a grassrootz donation fund and send them copies of the Constitution or email them an announcement that We are pissed as hell. The first one to get the Special Package should be Mukasey!

FWIW. I just had to say my shilling ..


You're onto something about the lawyers.

Not long ago, C-SPAN showed a panel discussion about the attorneys involved in the Watergate crimes, cover-up, and hearings.

http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&cPath=18_20&products_id=204678-1

John Dean noted that 22 lawyers were involved in the Watergate crimes and cover-ups. He said that, until he woke up, his concern was to use the law to accomplish what the president wanted accomplished.

I don't think that was what the Framers intended should happen.

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