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Calling Clearthinker and all environmentalists
Huffpo linked to this Friday article in the NY Times that says the government has put a freeze on any new solar energy projects because environmental studies are needed. I tend to doubt...to hell with that...I disbelieve any and everything that comes out of this administration until I'm proven wrong and I'm wondering if this is the payback for ANWR, off-shore drilling, etc. Or is there some pressing need for studies. If so, what might be the damage to the environment from these projects?
Thanks for your input.
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Comments (13)
Rec'd. It's an interesting question, to be sure.
To answer your question, I think their are some environmental concerns with respect to solar power, as there are with all sources of power. However, land use is not one I've heard brought up yet. I'm somewhat startled by the million acres statement, and the water usage concern also seems ill-founded as the vast majority of the water will be easily recycled.
I definitely share your distrust of the Bush administration in all things environmental.
June 29, 2008 4:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I read an article some time ago about a photovoltaic project that PG&E was installing. The article said that you it was theoretically possible for what seemed like an incredibly small installation of photovoltaic cells...10 square miles?....to generate enough power to supply most of the U.S. The problem with it was distribution of the electricity. Perhaps I shouldn't mention it because I don't have a link and I'm not sure where I read it. I think it was The Atlantic, but a quick search didn't turn it up. It sounded like the wave of the future at the time and the article didn't mention environmental problems so I was surprised to read the NY Times report.
June 29, 2008 6:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hate to say this, but part of the reason for this bureaucracy is a result of a lot of academics who have helped shaped the EPA and BLM. These arguments are very similar to when environmentalists wanted the Alaska Pipeline studied.
A favorite story of mine:
I once watched a prominent person in the field of environmental studies argue passionately why they needed the federal government to fund their work because "we only have 10 years" before irreparable damage was done to the environment causing specie extinction (plants are species too!), etc.
When told it wasn't happening, in part because a competing group (and by competing, I mean another group with a similar thesis, etc.) was getting this funding, this environmental person then said "a 2 year further study should be required" on the site before *any* work could proceed.
This person also happened to sit on the government panel doing the two year study.
Meanwhile 20% of the time before irreparable damage was done was eaten away.
This academic was a left as you can imagine.
So... there you have it. It's possibly a result of Bush machinations -- or simply another case of academics getting in the way of progress.
This is why it's not news to say that government bureaucracy would make for a good comedy. With so many competing agendas, who knows who will end up with whom as a dance partner?
June 29, 2008 5:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
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June 29, 2008 5:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interesting thought. In my work, when there is a freeze of this sort, it's often because there are competing interests at play, and until it is sorted out, the work cannot move forward. In a word - politics. There's a lot of talk about all of the green technology that's right at hand and with the right funding and governmental support...I suspect that government will just get in the way. Can't this stuff just come from the private arena? There doesn't HAVE to be government funding.
June 29, 2008 7:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Among other things I do is try to get private or government (either!) investment into water resource management.
Nothing works until drought is declared.
The story is as old as Noah's Ark.
June 29, 2008 7:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
It doesn't have to be either/or. The Iraq war came about largely because of some ivory tower academics were peddling their neocon theories, and those theories fit well with the Bush machinations.
The Bush machinations have also created a cottage industry of global warming revisionist academics.
June 30, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Bush Administration is way behind. Period.
Private investment is what's building the green economy right now.
June 29, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Since the government has always allowed our federal land to be so degraded by a few special interests, it is highly unlikely that this is about protecting the environment.
This new government concern for the environment shows up at the same time gas prices are high and there is an all-out campaign for more drilling and more coal. Sounds to me like some established industries don't want new renewable folks to rain on their perfect and profitable enregy-crisis- storm. Are there hard-earned tax giveaways involved? (I couldn't reach the link for details)
There are definitely legitimate concerns with massive solar plants that make smaller, local solar use seem much more sensible. Massive solar plants will cover over thousands of acres of land. So there is no doubt that massive plants will have a serious effect on biodiversity, wildlife and the environment. I haven't heard a good argument for massive plants in the middle of nowhere. Smaller, local solar carries no environmental threats.
There are other surprising ways of using sun energy that we don't hear enough about. For example, even if you live in the northern part of the United States, you can use the sun to heat an average size home by properly attaching a greenhouse with the right heat-absorbent floor and panels. So you pay for a greenhouse, but your heat bills are gone. And if oil goes through the roof, it will be well worth the trouble. For more information on this, you can google and find many individual stories and there is some information at this site:
http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/solar-gh.html#basic
For the amount of money each family will be forced to spend on Iraq, we could have put these greenhouses on every home and still had plenty of money left over for education and healthcare.
June 29, 2008 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
You paged clearthinker. Rec'd.
;-)
June 29, 2008 6:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
this is poor reporting by the NYT, with only vague descriptions of possible environmental impacts, at best.
water recycling is an easy enough problem to understand and mitigate.
compared to the water resources required for coal mining, oil drilling/transport/refining, and biofuels/biomass, i'm sure this isn't a bad alternative.
June 29, 2008 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hot off the presses:
http://tinyurl.com/6ydk9b
June 30, 2008 3:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
The death rattle. Bush's last gasp. One final appeal the the demons from hell that he worships and serves. He'll be gone soon enough.
June 30, 2008 9:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
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