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A Question to Democrats: If Not Now, When?
Last week Dennis Kucinich introduced articles of impeachment against George W. Bush. As expected, the corporate-controlled media paid little attention to this action, but it was noted in the blogosphere and generated a moderate amount of debate for a few days here at TPM. While some bloggers supported the impeachment of Bush, others opposed it for a number of mostly practical reasons.
In particular, some argued that the impeachment process would hurt the Democrats’ chances of winning the White House and Congressional seats in November. They believe that Bush, Cheney, and the other Bush administration criminals can be dealt with after Obama is in office and the Democrats have a larger majority in Congress. Until then, this just isn’t the right time. But won’t there be other important things for Obama to do if he wins the election, especially in those all-important first 100 days? Wouldn’t the American public turn against a President who said he was about change and bipartisan relationships if he spent valuable resources dealing with the crimes of a former president and his administration rather than the economy, the war, and other vital issues?
My problem with the “not the right time” argument is that it has been used for too long to give our leaders of today a free pass while passing the buck on to our leaders of tomorrow. We are expected to have blind faith that the Democrats, once elected, will take on the important issues. But there is always an upcoming election. There are always public opinion concerns. There will always be a better time.
Unfortunately, such political procrastination has contributed greatly to many of the serious problems facing our nation, besides the Iraq War. In particular, the current energy crisis could have been avoided to some degree if the issue had been dealt with more seriously starting back in the ’70s and ‘80s. But action wasn’t taken and the problems of energy policy and global climate change, which are related, will now require courage and conviction from our leaders if they are to make the necessary, but possibly politically unpopular, decisions.
If we are expecting Obama and the Congressional Democrats to have the courage to take on the big issues confronting our society, we must let them know that we will hold our leaders accountable for their actions, or lack thereof. It doesn’t seem like we are doing that, at least not in the case of the Bush administration. Unfortunately, each time we give our leaders a free pass, we make it all the harder for the next leaders to act in a responsible manner. Not only do the problems become compounded the longer we put them off but we create a precedent for inaction, making it harder to win over support from a society that has become accustomed to complacency and convenience.
Unfortunately, it isn’t going to get any easier. Big business has established a firm control over the mainstream media (due in large part to media consolidation that started under the Clinton administration) and it is able to control the message. In addition, many Republicans and Democrats in Congress act on behalf of corporate interests all too often. However, there are still a number of Democrats who, by and large, represent the people’s interests. Given this dynamic, it is vital that we support those progressive Democrats who still fight the good fight.
So why, instead, do some Democratic bloggers ridicule one of the most progressive Democrats in Congress, Dennis Kucinich? There were 22 co-sponsors of his 2007 resolution to impeach Vice President Cheney and there are currently 3 co-sponsors of the Bush impeachment resolution. Clearly, Kucinich has support from his progressive colleagues in the House of Representatives. Meanwhile, we see bloggers proposing an ultraconservative Republican such as Chuck Hagel as a possible vice presidential candidate just because he is against the Iraq War. While his current opposition may be admirable, it is worth remembering that Hagel supported the Iraq War resolution in 2002 while Kucinich opposed it (along with 125 Democratic Representatives and 21 Democratic Senators).
But that was 2002 and now, in 2008, some bloggers have implied that those who support impeachment are playing into the hands of the Republicans. But this sounds all too similar to the Bush administration’s accusations that those who opposed the Iraq War were playing into the hands of the terrorists. Aren’t we tired of having pessimistic predictions and generalized fear used as a way to get us go along, to keep us trusting in those who supposedly know better? I think FDR had a point when he said that “the only thing we have to fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance”.
In fact, the greatness of this country lies in the courage of individuals throughout history who have stood up to the powerful when the stakes were the highest. Our country has been made great by the members of the early labor movement who fought to bring about the humane working conditions that we all take for granted today (although not for long). Our country has been made great by the men and women who defied Joseph McCarthy and the House Un-American Activities Committee, many of whom lost their jobs and livelihoods after being blacklisted. Our country has been made great by individuals such as Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon Papers, and Mike Gravel, who had the tenacity to introduce them into the Congressional record. And by the honorable Vietnam veterans and Iraq veterans who have spoken out against unjust wars after experiencing the horrors firsthand. And by the courageous whistleblowers who risk their own careers and lives to expose government and corporate crime. And by the career diplomats who resigned in protest of the illegal invasion of Iraq. What if these people had said that it isn’t the right time, I don’t want to pay the personal price, let someone else do it? It is a sad commentary that our society has all too often relied on the selfless acts of public and private citizens while our elected officials stand by with their fingers to the political wind.
Indeed, while Democrats have continued to play it safe until the “next election”, George Bush has set a precedent of expanded executive power along with a total disregard for the authority of Congress. Congress has set the precedent of letting him get away with it, which does not seem to sit well with the public given its horrible approval ratings (below 20%). For too long, Democrats have behaved like codependents in an abusive relationship. They blame Bush and the Republicans for their woes but seem to be afraid to stand up to them. It is easy for us all to blame the Republicans for our country’s problems, but where were the Democrats? Why haven’t they stood unified in opposition as the Constitution has been shredded and the American people have been betrayed at the behest of corporate profiteers? And when the Democrats finally won control of Congress, why did Nancy Pelosi give Bush a free pass and take impeachment off the table?
Unfortunately, she did. But it is worth considering that there are still 7 months until Bush is out of office. Many seem to treat Bush in the past tense, as though he is no longer a threat and can be dealt with after the election. But prisoners are still being tortured and Blackwater forces are still operating above the law and Americans troops and Iraqis are still dying. We must also take seriously the persistent rhetoric about a possible attack against Iran. What if Bush uses claims of a nuclear weapons program and unstable leaders and ties to terrorists to justify such action to the American people? This is not an altogether unlikely scenario, in which case impeachment would no longer seem pointless.
Many of those arguing against impeachment also seem to assume that Obama will win the election, and this is a key factor in their logic. But, hypothetically, what if McCain were ahead in the polls by, say, 10% or more? There is still plenty of time before November for unexpected developments, especially if the above scenario involving Iran were to play out. How would Democrats feel if Bush’s “third term” was staring them in the face? Would more people support impeachment in order to establish the criminality of the Bush policies and the abuses of the Constitution so as to not let them become accepted executive privilege? Herein lies the problem. The decision to impeach a president should not be influenced by who is ahead in the polls or who is running for office or whether it is the “right time”. Impeachment should be about crimes committed against the Constitution. It should be about defending our country.














Comments (26)
The articles once entered is using a loophole the republicans forgot to plug when they granted umbrella immunity to the President and administration in late night sessions before the Democrats take over. Now they are trying to play hardball to close it and the democrats won't let any bill or ammendment on the floor with it in it. They are waiting until Obama is in office and then they will try and get him to reverse the special prosecutor rule, (allowing them to challenge anyone including executive priviledge)Thereby allowing all secret documents to be seen and if need be challenged.
Democrats are waiting so they can reverse legally everything bush has done.(Actually Cheney)As long as the articles have been read, they are active, even if killed before they hit the floor, it gives a starting place to special prosecutors later. Let's see if it happens.
June 17, 2008 9:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Very interesting. I just hope the Democrats stick with it and don't let Bush and Cheney off the hook. All this behind-the-scenes activity is encouraging (but a little mysterious!). If I understand you correctly, it seems that having the articles of impeachment introduced was an important first step so at least we can be appreciative of that.
June 17, 2008 10:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Beautifully argued. To the last point I’d add that Senator McCain, who played a big part in getting the DTA and MCA passed, said that the SC decision in Boumediene, striking down the unconstitutional stripping of habeas in those acts, was the “worst decision in history!” FDR was right about fear being our worst enemy. But I do fear a President John McCain.
June 17, 2008 9:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you, and I agree that McCain is very frightening. I hope the Democrats can stand strong both politically and on principle and defeat the Republicans at all levels. We need to destroy fearmongering at its root.
June 17, 2008 10:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
a little off topic, but YEA CELTICS!!!!!!
June 17, 2008 11:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
In my more paranoid moments, I wonder if entrenched, business-as-usual Democrats are employing blogging/posting plants, the way the Right does. Because it doesn't make sense to me, either.
I wonder how many people who pooh-pooh impeachment have actually read the 35 Articles. If they read them in one sitting—the whole thing, not just the list of Articles—I think they'd feel so sickened that they'd clamor for impeachment.
It's as if the years have diluted the enormity of Bush's crimes. And in the excitement about having good Democratic candidates and now the run-up to the general election, it's easier not to have to think about just how many abuses have been inflicted on us and the world by BushCo and just look ahead to Obama and the glowing future of a Democratic president and a Democratically controlled Congress.
But all the "reasons" against impeachment do not mitigate what I believe is an ignored reality: These years have been traumatic to anyone in this country who cares about our Constitution, our honor, and our freedoms. And while this trauma does not carry the violence with it of PTSD from war or brutal crimes, it is still a trauma and it has a psychic and emotional cost.
It is accepted as fact by most psychiatric professionals and psychology practitioners that burying the traumas from PTSD merely prolongs their effects. The traumas need to be brought into the light, faced, and stripped of their power to cripple.
This, I contend, is what we need as a country. We need the most public venue possible—Senate hearings broadcast for all to see and hear—that rehash these crimes against us. It will be painful, horrible, and ugly. But so is facing the experiences of any trauma. Even if there is no conviction (which is an unfortunate possibility, given the spinelessness of too many of the people who represent us in Congress), our collective trauma will have been thrust into the daylight, unambiguously. While it will anger us, distress us, and depress us, all of that will be part of the transitory process that will lead to our being able to move beyond what this has done to our country and to us as individuals.
Of course, the heinousness of Bush's high crimes and misdemeanors cannot compare to war or the Holocaust, but that doesn't mean it hasn't had an effect on those of us who have been harmed. And just as survivors of the Holocaust have needed to tell their stories, so that their experiences will not only be validated but not forgotten, the story of our collective trauma of the Bush Administration needs to be told.
Then we will be able to say with strength and determination, "Never again."
June 18, 2008 12:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for your very eloquent assessment of the collective impact on our society.
In some countries, such as South Africa and Chile, they have had truth and reconciliation commissions to provide some kind of healing for the victims of the government's crimes. While we certainly are not at that level, I agree that some kind of public hearings are needed to bring accountability and justice to the crimes of the Bush administration. It has been rather frightening to see how easy it is to have your government move closer and closer to a fascist-like state right in front of your eyes!
June 18, 2008 1:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
For purely pragmatic reasons I don't support impeachment. Winning in November is the A item.
And the B through Z items.
To quote Vince Lombardi,'it's not the best thing,it's the only thing.'
Voters were , correctly ,turned off by the attempted Clinton impeachment, contributing to the republican losses in 98, and maybe to a gut aversion to any impeachment. Even when justified.
I fear a democratic impeachment attempt
will get the same response and will cost us at least some votes in November. That's too frightening to risk.
June 18, 2008 4:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Flavius (and tonnyb and KateO below), I don't understand what your assumptions are based on:
1) Impeachment hearings will hurt Congressional Democrats' election chances in November.
Why? Congress has a lower approval rating than Bush, and it keeps dropping. Bush is incredibly unpopular, and maybe the public would actually gain confidence in a Congress that stood up for the law and took action.
No one gives any data to support this claim, and I am unaware of any polls taken before or after Kucinich introduced the articles. If such data exists, it would be useful to consider them. If such data is not available, the question should be why HAVEN'T polls been taken on this matter? We don’t have a shortage of pollsters out there, and this certainly is an important issue.
2) The impeachment of Clinton "trivialized" the process (see KateO's comment below) and impeachment now seems like playing politics.
How can the Clinton impeachment be compared to the Bush impeachment on any level except that they both involve impeachment? The Clinton impeachment was politically motivated to a large degree, even if Clinton was guilty of lying under oath. But the magnitudes of the crimes are just on completely different levels. The American people understand the difference. The average person wasn't personally affected by Clinton's crime, and in fact he remained relatively popular during the impeachment process. The crimes committed by Bush HAVE affected most Americans, from the Iraq War itself to the decimation of our economy to the neglect of our infrastructure (which are all related). No one supports Bush and even Republican politicians are keeping their distance.
It appears to me that the Democrats are playing politics and trivializing impeachment (by rendering it irrelevant) by NOT pursuing it when it absolutely is required.
3) Impeachment would result in negative media for the Democrats.
Why? Wouldn't it put on trial Bush's crimes, abuses, and illegal policies that McCain is essentially supporting? Wouldn't it put the media spotlight on McCain and force him to defend himself and his views?
4) Impeachment will rally the "right" to action.
Maybe the extreme right who still support Bush will rally. But why are we to believe that typical Republican voters, who are already unhappy with their party, are going to somehow be mobilized to defend their disgraced war criminal of a president?
Of course, none of us knows what will actually happen. But the above assumptions just seem very defensive and assume that Democratic support is weak to begin with. However, the primary season energized so many new and existing Democrats. I don't think we are quite so vulnerable.
June 18, 2008 8:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I will reply in sometime tonight or tomorrow.
June 19, 2008 12:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you CKNicely, for pointing out something I had not heard before and actually gives us all a glimmer of hope.
I had heard that bush had granted umbrella immunity over anything to do with Iraq, but was not aware that there was a loophole. Gives me something to look into, as this might very well be what is justifying the complacency on the part of democrats.
June 18, 2008 4:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
CKNicely,
Could you provide some links that provide the details of what you're referring to? I'm surprised no one at DKos has written a single blog about it.
June 18, 2008 4:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
The articles can be re-introduced in January when the new House convenes and the President is still in power. (He can be impeached when out of power as well). The new Senate should have enough solid Democratic votes to make conviction possible, and without that, it looks too much like an endorsement (there's another word I want...) of Bush.
June 18, 2008 6:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
I submit that rather than impeachment, investigation and prosecution for war crimes is more fitting. There is certainly no lack of evidence. One of the next Congress' first acts should be to establish a commission to investigate and prosecute war crimes.
June 18, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is the best, most thoughtful reader post ever! I particularly appreciate your point that we are continually the victims of the politics of fear. It seems to me that this reluctance on the part of Dems to be fully what we are, and to demand that our elected representatives act accordingly. But we allow ourselves to be calmed down and bought off with "now is not the time" everytime. Looking back at the last 30 years, I have to ask my fellow Dems "Howz that workin' for ya??" We allowed ourselves to be put off on prosecuting Nixon, minimum wage hikes, Universal Health Care, any number of things. We even got stuck with the Patriot Act Abortion and the AUMF because it was "not the right time" to oppose the President. And now it's "not the right time" to impeach the most blatantly criminal President in living memory. Half the crap that Bush has been able to pull off is directly due to the fact that it wasn't "the right time" to call Nixon, Reagan, Bush 1, and Clinton on their abuses of power, and they all got away with it. Damn it! We have a DUTY to our next generations not to leave these precedents and loopholes lying around waiting for the next fascist to come along and exploit them. Future generations must see that "in America, we don't put up with that shit" There comes a point when refusal to act becomes cowardice. That point was 2 years ago.
June 18, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
conniptionfit, thank you for your wonderful compliment. From your comments, it sounds like we are kindred spirits!
June 18, 2008 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
"In fact, the greatness of this country lies in the courage of individuals throughout history who have stood up to the powerful when the stakes were the highest."
Our entire government is now in the corporate bag. There can be no impeachment because the Congressional Democrats have supported Bush's crimes against humanity and against the Constitution.
Standing up to the powerful now means standing up to our entire government, standing up to the military and police that are supposed to protect us, and also standing up to the government's private armies like Blackwater. How many citizens would it take to succeed against those odds?
June 18, 2008 11:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
You arguments make good solid moral sense but IMO, little political sense. Having an impeachment process move forward at this time will divert attention and resources away from the media and congress, with the end result being a stalemate in the Senate and the mobilization of the right. Congress needs to get elected and there democrats are on the verge of winning a veto proof majority in the Senate and making great gains in the House.
Putting Bush and Cheney on the block will only incite the right to action. It will be the 'liberal media attacking on of theirs.' and is likely to have an effect on congressional races.
Politics isn't just about right and wrong but also about timing.
June 18, 2008 12:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well there's always revolution. Because these leaders, with the help of 9/11, have been allowed to move unfettered by the electorate and the current Congress, there will be a price to pay this November. We are moving into a more open society. It is inevitable. This is why the Clinton's had such a hard time this cycle and why McCain is having an awful time now. They are not prepared for the internet and youtube.
Please check Five thirty eight.
June 18, 2008 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Woops! I think this is it here.
June 18, 2008 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree that the argument you cite opposing impeachment is bogus, and I further agree with your title's implication that this may be the most impeachable administration in history.
However, there are other worthy arguments in opposition to impeachment as long as conviction is impossible. One that I have not seen much is the precident that an acquittal might set. For more on this argument, see here.
June 18, 2008 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tank,
O. J. Simpson. Let’s assume for the sake of argument that Simpson was guilty, yet, he was acquitted by a jury. That some very good lawyers introduced doubt in a slam dunk case and persuaded the jury to nullify the evidence doesn’t set a precedent for any future cases. The evidence was put out there for all to see and understand.
A couple of years back, Sen. Feingold tried to introduce a censor of Bush for illegally spying on Americans. Th evidence of the lawbreaking through warrantless wiretapping is out already and even though Democrats ran, with fingers I ears, screaming “I can’t hear you,” (not the right time, important People’s business to do, we'll look weak on security, etc.) the evidence of crimes exist.
If impeachment is begun n the House with investigative powers they get no other way and all of the evidence is discovered and sent to the Senate, it really doesn’t matter if they convict. If they do not convict when presented with overwhelming evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors, it will be seen for what it is- a political sham. And it will be remembered as such.
June 18, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
You make a good point comparing this situation to O.J., Don, but I still can't agree.
Believe me, there is no one within the sound of our voice that would relish the impeachment of the current Kleptocracy more than I, and few who are more disgusted than I over the Democrats' general cowardice in dealing with them.
But the O.J. case set no precident, and he was not acquitted by lawyers whose entire stock-in-trade is precident. In the futrue, this country may need to remove someone from office even more desperately than it does now, and this kind of precident might basically "take impeachment off the table" permanently.
Setting the record straight may not be worth giving up still another vital chunk of the Constitution to these incompetent thieves.
As far as the issue of political sham is concerned, it took a series of scandals PLUS a massively unpopular war to dent the Republicans' hold on Congress after 14 years of accomplishing little EXCEPT political sham. The American voting public kept sending them back to steal more, to make long-distance diagnoses of consciousness, and to bolster a totally corrupt administration.
June 18, 2008 7:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think impeachment was in order two-three years ago. It's too late now and would look purely political. Plus, the impeachment of Clinton trivialized the use of that form of congressional punishment--dare I say emasculated it? I agree with the sentiments of many here that the most important thing for the country right now is taking back the White House and boosting the Democratic majority in both chambers. Impeachment proceedings would be a huge diversion. No one will look back fondly on the Bush/Cheney years. History will punish them, and I hope a few legal maneuvers will as well.
June 18, 2008 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
The bottom line is the following:
Are you interested in real change?
Or are you interested in a purity test?
Because time and energy are finite quantities and you can't have both of these.
Just because someone who is against impeachment as a political act doesn't imply that they agree with Bush or don't think he lied, etc.
Systems of human organization are imperfect. GOP members of Congress are corrupt. Dem members of Congress are corrupt. Often times their partisan behavior belies the fact that they know they need to work together (e.g. Tip ONeil / Ronald Reagan).
There's an old story about closing the barn door once the horse is gone. I think the 2004 election was a real wake-up call to people. For whatever reason, a majority of voting Americans wanted him back in the White House. That means the Democrats didn't do their job to get Kerry elected. Perhaps the sting of 2004 is part of the reason why 2008 is so different.
Good. That's a silver lining.
Purity tests are wonderful things.
I, however, prefer to get things done. An impeachment will not serve that purpose -- because it will use up finite time and energy resources when we have other problems that, if corrected, will have a much stronger impact on our lives and our future.
Sometimes the bad guys get away clean. You've got to be able to deal with that. It's Chinatown.
Our hope comes from the new opportunities to correct the wrongs of tomorrow, not in chasing the shadows of crimes committed yesterday.
June 18, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
clearthinker, I would like to think that it isn't an either / or situation. We shouldn't have to sacrifice the Constitution in order to bring about change.
Personally, I find the term "purity test" to be a bit condescending to describe the act of following the law and defending the Constitution. I am not sure what kind of change is worth it if it is achieved at such a steep price.
The Framers of the Constitution clearly did not think that impeachment was an idealized concept that could be discarded in the interest of time and energy. It is the only mechanism we have to address the crimes and abuses of a president. It is very frightening to think what could happen to our nation if we essentially discard it. I wonder, under what conditions would the act of impeachment not be a purity test according to your definition?
If we start picking and choosing which parts of the Constitution we can sacrifice because they are inconvenient or not practical or too "pure", we start down a slippery slope that is very dangerous. I believe very much that the ends do not justify the means, and I don't think that is some kind of naive purity on my part.
June 18, 2008 9:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
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