Huffpost has become Obama central. Dean has said the Florida and Michigan delegates will be seated; will vote for the presidential nominee. The rules committee has to find a way to allow Florida and Michigan to participate. To most longtime Democrats, the Nuclear Option is to disenfranchise Florida and Michigan. And which candidate, which candidates ardent, cultlike supporters want to go nuclear?

We can't lose in Florida and Michigan and win the election in November. How could you possibly justify freezing the Democrats of Florida and Michigan out? Republican controlled legislatures created the primary dates, not the 3-4 million people who got up, put off jobs, family, leisure, etc. to go vote.

We could have fixed this already by having another primary in these states, but it was the Obama camp that refused to go along. They want to shut out two big states we must win--all of this to protect New Hampshire's state law that they must have the first primary in the nation. What if New Mexico (or some other state) also passed a law saying that New Mexico must have the first primary. Doesn't anyone see the ridiculousness of protecting New Hampshire at everyone else's expense?

Also, the blind, vituperative, hatefulness towards anything non-Obama is scaring those of us that haven't drunk the cool aid. There are some Clinton trolls, but no one calls your candiate, "a pathetic political pathenogen." Depending on how you count, a majority or a near majority of progressives support Clinton.

When we see unreasoned, hateful, spiteful, cultlike references to someone who 50% of us view as our champion, someone who for 25 years has fought for us, someone who knows the issues backwards and forwards, it hurts your candidate. And if you wonder why (see CBS poll post) 40% of the people who support Clinton say they won't vote for Obama, maybe the reason is looking you in the mirror.

Obama knew the rules too--he chose to remove his name from the ballot. He then proceded to campaign in MI by having his affiliated groups urge voters to select "uncommitted." Then in Florida, unlike Hillary, he violated the agreement by campaigning via national ad buys that ran on cable news networks just prior to the vote.

the bottom line is what redstateleroy says, the Democrats are crazy if they really think it's a good idea to stick to their precious rules and not seat delegates from MI and FL. Voters in FL are not happy about this and it will affect the November election. It doesn't help Obama that he has not been a voice for counting those votes and he effectively was the reason a revote died.

Quote: "He then proceded to campaign in MI by having his affiliated groups urge voters to select "uncommitted.""

This doesn't even pass the laugh test. You gotta be laughing...

And if you think Obama is losing ground, no no no...

Tonight's CBS/NY Times poll results:

Obama 50 vs Clinton 38

Obama 51 vs McCain 40

He is recovering, in fact rising! He's also ahead in today's Gallup poll for the first time in a week, 49-45.

I'll take Edsall at his word that some Clinton strategists are "privately" floating this scenario as their latest way to steal the election. I guess they've given up on convincing enough superdelegates to back her.
It actually heartens me to hear this, because it shows the level of desperation in her camp. For this to work, as Edsall notes, two unlikely things have to happen -- and then two major stumbling blocks have to be overcome.
At which point, Hillary will have won what? The nomination of a party split and weakened as never before, and the near-certainty that enough Democrats will be so turned off that she will be humiliatingly crushed by John McCain.
On top of which, it simply won't work. As Hillary herself has correctly pointed out, even pledged delegates (chosen by caucus or primary) can vote their consciences at the convention.
Any attempt to put this plan into operation would offend the consciences of even many Hillary delegates.
At some point -- hopefully Tuesday night -- she will realize it's over.