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Women aren't fit to hold office, it seems.
As a woman, I want to make it clear that it's not MY belief that women aren't good enough to hold office. It's the belief of the Clinton camp, and apparently, the belief of a fair number of her supporters. I can only believe that it's this practice of embracing the mindset of 'empowered masculinity' that led Hillary Clinton to brazenly and unabashedly support an immoral and unjust war and to be unapologetic about it. Forgiveness is for girls. Apologies are for mama's boys.
It's this attitude that led her to attack her Democratic rival using Right Wing talking points. It's this attitude that's led her to become the darling of the Right Wing talking heads.
Luckily for the Democratic Party, and for America, it's the same attitude that will end up costing Clinton the election.
I remember, with great sadness, that President Bush successfully mocked Dems by gently tapping his forehead, shaking his head side to side, and stating, 'this is how they think', referring to 'liberals'. Given the Clinton campaign's hypermasculinized approach, I almost expect to see her hold up an empty codpiece, tapping it gently, and re-stating the line, 'this is how they think'. She'll, of course, give the patented Hillary look of disapproval as she shakes her head from side to side, dismayed by the 'chick-like' nature of her party.
It's hard to pinpoint when it started, but it's a pretty safe bet that it began with a 'soft touch' approach to supporting the Iraq war. It was deemed, by Sen. Clinton, a necessary vote to stop Saddam Hussein from carrying out acts of war and genocide on his neighbors and eventually the rest of the world. We were told to ignore American's faithful servants and loyal heroes like Scott Ritter and Richard Clarke, who were destroyed by the Bush administration for daring to speak the truth.
We were supposed to turn a blind eye on well established agencies like the IAEA and the U.N. - when they dared to suggest that the intelligence was wrong, there were no WMDs in Iraq. Scott Ritter openly stated that this was a war for people who were bad at science - those who believed that WMDs were easily constructed in the back of trucks, or almost any lab with a bunsen burner (not an exact quote).
It was easy for the Bush Administration, which has never been science-friendly, to present this war to the American public without serious consequence back then. Unfortunately, it was far too easy for Hillary to 'man up' and join the Bush administration in their fight to deceive. There was voter gold in them there war mongering statements!
At the campaign wore on, the anger and the vitrol (heightened and masculinized) grew stronger:
- Shame on you, Barack Obama, meet me in Ohio and we'll hash this thing out. It was the political equivalent of a gang fight: "Bring your click, I'll bring my click, and we'll bang this one out -- last man standing, mutha-humper!- There was the vote for Kyl-Lieberman
- The unwillingness to protect innocent men, women, and children from CLUSTER bombs.
- At the top of the manly man hit list? "Obliterating Iran" statements that require no apology or second consideration.
- In regard to the 'Gas Tax Holiday', you're either WITH US OR AGAINST US. Econonmists, and others, who don't support her are elitists who are always working in favor of corporate America and against the average American. As perverse as it is, I have to admit that I'm enjoying her F.U. to Paul Krugman, who almost blindly supports her and opposes the Gax holiday. Many of Clinton's staunchiest supporters seem shocked by her statements... SOMEONE hasn't been paying attention to who Hillary Clinton really is.
- Add to that the Easley comment that Clinton was tough enough to make Rocky Balboa look like a 'pansy'. She got a 'two fer' with that one. Her supporter attempted to emasculate Sen. Obama and gay males all at the same time.
- How about Gipson's comment that she she has 'testicular fortitude'?
- A beer, a shot, and a good rifle - meant to be carried by the God-fearing, anyone?
- Most recently, James Carville is 'credited' with stating that if she gave Obama one of her cojones, they'd both have a pair. I'm not sure where he's going with that, but when I get a visual on it all I know is that it makes me feel dirty, and just a little bit frightened.
WHERE are the feminists and all other people who are rightly angry about the all-too-slowly-dying penchant for sexism and subjugation taking place in modern American culture? Where are the people who applauded Sen. Clinton's take down of MSNBC's deer-in-headlights-David-Shuster, for making the comment that Chelsea was 'pimped' by her parents? Where are the people who've been attacking the media for the biased coverage of Sen. Clinton? Oh, that's right, they're commenting on her testicles, her ability to scare 'pansies', and the qualifications that make her man enough to run the country. I get it, now.
Why am I supporting Sen. Obama? Becuase he hasn't defined this job as a 'man's job'. He understands that the traits that make a President successful are intelligence, decency, integrity, and backbone - which has nothing to do with gender. He has the intestinal fortitude to say what needs to be said and to stand by it leaving the need to display 'testicular fortitude' to the war mongering corporatists who think we're all to 'girly' to know any better.


Comments (101)
Dear heart, you sound upset. Maybe it will help you to learn that as a Senator, Barack Obama voted the same as Hillary Clinton on every single war issue. In fact, he only voted differently than Hillary on one vote, and that had nothing to do with the war.
Relax. If Hillary wins, you'll be fine.
May 5, 2008 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
He would not have voted to start the war. He would have voted for the Levin Amendment that would have required Bush to come back to Congress before invading, and after we had information from the inspectors on the ground.
Funding troops while they are on the ground in harm's way is NOT the same as supporting this debacle. She gave a speech in 2005 agreeing with McCain that staying in Iraq would be the same as staying in Okinawa.
Obama is the author of the deployment plan that the Dem's can't get passed the 60-vote threshold in the Senate.
He voted FOR a cluster bomb ban; Hillary voted AGAINST a ban on using cluster bombs on innocent civilians.
No wonder so many of Hillary supporters will vote for McCain. There's no difference.
I'm voting for the only Democrat in the race.
May 5, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Correction: re-deployment plan -- a proposal to pull our troops out of Iraq.
May 5, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Although I don't advocate single ticket voting, I love that line!
May 6, 2008 1:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bullshit.
Just bullshit and don't tell anyone to calm down.
It's not your place to make personal remarks.
May 5, 2008 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
how about a "don't you worry your pretty little head about that"? I always love that one.
May 6, 2008 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
so he would have voted differently on the most important vote in my lifetime, but not on the subsequent, far less consequential votes.
is that seriously your defense? a continuation of funding once a war is underway is simply not comparable to the initiation of war in the first place. if you can't see the difference, it's no wonder you're voting for Clinton.
May 6, 2008 12:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Are you sure about that Otto?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFZL33nPoEU
May 6, 2008 9:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
If Hillary wins, none of us will be well. The Democratic Party will be split. The country will be war bent without Bush or McCain. Lies and obfuscations will be preferred over plain spoken truth. Cynicism will rule. The silly psychological battles of the Clinton years we suffered through in the 90s will be back. No, if Hillary wins, none of us will be well. Especially those living in Iraq and other places that suffer from US imperialism and US self interest. God help us if Hillary wins.
May 6, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Fact check: HRC voted for the Kyl-Leiberman Amendment, which designated the Iranian National Guard a "terrorist organization" and can be interpreted to authorize Bush to take military action in response.
Obama was not in Washington at that time, and did not vote. He stated that he opposed the amendment, which passed 9/26/07 76-22.
HRC has persistantly echoed the Bush Admin's hard line on Iran, recently raising the ante by calling to commit the US to "total annihilation" of Iran if it ever strikes Israel.
Obama has criticized the Bush administrations neglect of diplomacy, and made clear that establishing dialog and attempting to reduce tension would be his first intervention.
May 6, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Newsflash Otto F: Hillary already lost:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9149.html
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/04/22/matthews-media-created-the-delusion-that-clinton-could-win/
May 6, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
I can think of at least two off the top of my head (both dealing with the environment), so you've really shot your credibility there. One way to earn at least some of it back is to admit that you were wrong. I'm hoping it was a mistake borne of ignorance and was not deliberate.
May 6, 2008 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Otto F has no credibility, just a hillary troll who is here to sling her crud around like a demented ape.
So relax, Obama will be a great president.
May 6, 2008 1:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
YES BUT SHE'S FIT TO HOLD HER MUD
Real men come in a variety of configurations. Conversely girlymen bowl the gutter. As a manly man of manly achievments HRC does not intimidate me while Barry makes me want to shower after he leaves the club house.
VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE
NOT YOUR WHITE GUILTY CONSCIENCE
May 6, 2008 2:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hear, hear! I give this an unqualified rec and agree wholeheartedly with everything you've said. This feminist is also truly disgusted and dismayed with her, and as much as I would love to see a woman in the White House she is NOT the woman.
May 5, 2008 2:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well apparently she's a man now. Cojones and duck hunting and Crown Royal shooters all.
What's next, Hil? A pinch between cheek and gum, and a little styrofoam cup you carry with you to spit in? Big-wheeled monster trucks? See-gars?
Sheesh.
May 6, 2008 2:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary's supporters are willing to throw any and all principles overboard to win.
If they need to be poor widdle old wadies or victims of the "guys ganging up" so be it. If they need to go racists against affirmative action secret muslim "empty suits", so be it. If they need to disparage Obama as a girly man versus tough, mach, uber-testicular Hillary, so be it.
Hillary and her hardcore supporters are ruthless assholes who do anything to win. I'm not sure it gets deeper than that.
I think it would be better for feminists to have a decent, respectable woman be the first president. Someone for the ages, for our daughters and granddaughters to look up to. Hillary is not that person.
May 5, 2008 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Troll alert.
May 5, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice of you to announce your presence like that...
May 5, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's almost like a SPAM email with a title of "Caution - SPAM!"
May 5, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just realized your handle is "goatlife" and not "gotalife" - Dyslectics Untie! The reason I figured it out, is because of the sophistication of the thought involved. I am not so sure gotalife would be able to bring that sentence together.
May 6, 2008 7:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, there's always the American Dyslexic Society. Many people have been helped through the efforts of the SDA.
Meheheheh.
May 6, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
If you want true equality, one of the prices to pay is that you will have people of your gender appear idiotic and stupid.
Men deal with that every day.
Welcome to the club, ladies!
May 5, 2008 2:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
So choose inequality?
May 5, 2008 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just 'cause, on average, women are far superior than men, doesn't mean there aren't some bad apples in the basket. (Just kidding, of course.)
Seriously, though, one difference between being a male and being a female in a situation like this is that there are so few women in high-profile political positions, that anyone who is there ends up as a de facto representative for the rest of us.
Personally, I see the "aggressive" and "fighter" modes Hillary applies to herself as rough parallels to what business women were doing 30 years ago: presenting themselves as more "male" than their masculine counterparts because that was the only way to get respect. I think, though I could be wrong, that we've moved beyond that phase as society, and that classically "female" skills are just as valued. But I live in the progressive bay area, so my perspective could be very skewed.
May 5, 2008 6:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
And of course I goofed up the snarky superiority comment. Sheesh.
May 5, 2008 7:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
No you didn't! I got it immediately. Relax, CAPaige. ;-)
May 6, 2008 1:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, I just meant that, instead of "superior than," I should have said, "superior to," which is ironic, given that I was (ironically?) proclaiming superiority.
May 6, 2008 1:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, you do design superior avatars... I keep getting comments!
May 6, 2008 2:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Anyway, the comment makes me think of Sigourney Weaver in Working Girl. Thanks.
May 6, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
But I don't think that sort of attitude is necessary to win or be effective. She is only doing it now, or perhaps exaggerating it (she does have a reputation for combativeness) is because she has nothing left to lose. The fact is, she had such high negatives going into this that it was going to be difficult, if not impossible for her to win it in November, despite being the presumptive nominee.
If she had come out of the box campaigning they way she is now, she would have been sunk by Super Tuesday. There is basically only a bunch of really conservative states left and Oregon. I think if she was campaiging on "obliteration" of Iran and bad environmental policy there is no way she could have won California, just flat out no way. So the "populist" turn of her campaign is all gimmickry because of where the campaign is at the moment, pure opportunism. And repeatedly making comments to emasculate Obama, the dog whistle stuff and calling him elitist is not good for women in general.
Feminism is now back to the great divide that splits race and gender because of this campaign. Feminism as an anti-war ideology is now in conflict because of this campaign. Is it a having a woman for President no other reason than the chromosomes? What does mean? I thought this feminism and equality of rights for women was much more about gender than sex. It looks like I am wrong. Because if it is about gender, since Hillary is making Obama the woman here all women should vote for him.
There are some great women governors out there who don't put on that act and are still extremely popular: Gregoire, Napolitano, Sebelius. And then there is Granholm, hey you can't win them all.
May 5, 2008 8:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
You really hit the nail on the head with this one"
What I don't get, is why is anyone buying her bullshit now? Is it because she has the former president shilling for her in back-porch events? Could that really do it?
Oh, what am I thinking? Any way you slice it she is toast.
May 5, 2008 10:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, I totally agree with you here. I'm just convinced that Clinton doesn't understand that -- and that her experience backs up her beliefs.
There's a difference adjusting campaign positions and emphasizing different policy points for different audiences, which is (perhaps sadly) standard practice in a long, drawn-out primary season -- and adopting a persona that emphasizes aggression. I haven't seen a shift in Clinton's persona as much as one in the content she's covering; though I agree that the content has been dramatically tilted toward "conservative" viewpoints of late. But "conservative" and "masculine" are two different things.
An excellent point, and adeptly phrased.
May 5, 2008 11:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Personally, I vote for POTUS like I hire in my company: I want the best people for the job. And if it turns out that their skin is purple-polka dots and they are hermaphrodites, so be it! (In fact, I remember when I had two women working on my small team -- somewhat unusual for a techie group of 5 people -- I was accused of picking out cute women! So you can't win for losing.)
Not voting for Hillary Clinton because she is a woman is obviously stupid -- but so is voting for her because she is a woman.
I have always been very turned off that Hillary was running as a woman. Note that while Obama certainly has his large share of black voters (and let's remember he is only 1/2 black), he isn't running as a black man. He lets other people make that obvious comment -- because in today's society that is a novelty. But it's not the reason that Obama is running and he hasn't made a point of it.
If Hillary is running as a woman, that tells me she doesn't have a lot of else to run on!
And, of course, Nancy Pelosi, a woman, is 2nd in line to the Presidency -- that hoopla lasted about 1 day, I believe. When I see her, I don't think "woman" I think "ranking House Democrat". Maybe I'm in the minority, but the people I've seen deal with her don't seem to be much different... and some of them are Republican. ;-)
If we are truly about getting to a gender-neutral society (and not all self-proclaimed feminists are about that, by the way), then Hillary not getting the nomination would actually be the norm -- and she would join the ranks of Biden, Dodd, Edwards, Huckabee, Romney, etc. etc.
As you point out, it's not 1970 anymore.
If there is any label I pin on Hillary, it's "Clinton" -- and I don't want to see a Clinton dynasty (or any other type) in the White House.
May 6, 2008 1:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's only 1/2 black? What's that supposed to mean?
And in fact, he has severed his 20-year relationship with his black liberation theology pastor to prove how race-neutral he is!
May 6, 2008 2:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
While your thinking may be clear, your writing is mud.
May 6, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
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May 5, 2008 10:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary behaves like she doesn't know who she is, and can't decide who she wants to be. The way she's overcompensating for her shortcoming, real or imagined, makes her seem very insecure.
May 5, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's like Bill, but times ten:
Triangulating.
Pandering.
Lying.
May 5, 2008 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like Bill but without the charm.
May 6, 2008 5:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have a wonderful woman Senator. I am represented in Congress by another wonderful woman.
There is that festering sore on the hindquarters of humanity named Norman (Quimby) Coleman to be dealt with soon enough...
And then there is Hillary Clinton. Perhaps we might turn to the theater for a quote from Dame Edith Evans: "When a woman behaves like a man why doesn't she behave like a nice man?"
May 5, 2008 6:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow! That little quote is a keeper!
May 5, 2008 10:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow! Un-fucking-believable!
May 5, 2008 11:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I started out the primary season as a supporter of Hillary Clinton. I am a big supporter of Speaker Pelosi. The reason why I switched to Senator Obama is because Hillary decided that she was going to campaign as the most macho War Mongering Man in the bunch. If I wanted that type of candidate, I had plenty to choose from in that cluster of rabid war mongering Republican candidates.
I would love to have a genuine feminist candidate to support. Hillary is not one. Genitalia alone does not make one a feminist. There is a lot more to being a feminist that running around the country saying: vote for me because of the way I pee.
I hope Senator Obama picks one of the self made women Governors as his running mate.
May 5, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sitting down to pee on Day One.
Meheheheh.
May 5, 2008 7:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I do think Napolitano and Sebelius are on his short list. I think Napolitano is a better match, but she's a bit brass-ballsy so she might scare some folks away. :)
May 6, 2008 12:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Great blog. Highly recommended.
I always thought that it was a disappointment that Hillary wasn't more female, in the classic sense, while running for the nomination. She could have been nurturing, supportive, incisive, instinctive, intelligent, peaceful. Instead she was delusional, aggressive, arrogant, warmongering.
She was more he than she.
That's not to say that women can't kick some ass, but in my experience it is much more of a subtle ass whipping than the Baby Bush variety.
Barack Obama seems more feminine in his approach to winning the primary, especially when it comes to the more biting aspects of campaigning. His criticisms are more subtle, more intelligent, cut a little deeper through the bullshit.
That explains every argument I have had with a woman where she has won. Hillary simply adopted the wrong tactics. She saw male domination as public acceptance. Barack recognized the need for a more feminine nuance to balance out a purely masculine government.
He bet on the American people being able to see the difference and won.
May 5, 2008 7:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would not mind if Hillary had a sassy tough gal swagger to her, provide she came down on the right side of the War and Peace issues, and did not pander so much.
I loved the late Ann Richards, so I am a man who enjoys authentically strong feminists. If Hillary was any where near being an Ann Richards type of woman candidate, I would have been with her all the way.
May 5, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Poor George. He was born with a silver foot in his mouth."
May 5, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have always had a phobia of horses, but my daughter from a very young age, wanted to ride. I took lessons with her, though I never was any good.
One thing I learned from one of our best riding instructors was to use my "boy voice" when telling a horse what to do. "You have to make them know who's boss," she said. "When you talk like that they don't even think -- they just do what you say." The big beasts actually did what I said once I learned that! STOP! BACK! NO! WHOA!
I think that the electorate deserves more respect than to get the "boy voice" that Hillary uses for everything, and I always feel insulted when I hear it.
May 5, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is a funny, self-contradictory story.
May 6, 2008 2:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'll slow it down for you - People don't need to hear a "boy voice" to do something. We aren't horses. Sheesh.
May 6, 2008 6:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Right. And horses don't need to listen to humans.
May 6, 2008 8:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
But if a human is sitting on a horse, that human has to communicate with that horse. And the horse does what the human with the "boy voice" says. The human then brushes the horse down, gives it a bath, cleans its hooves with a pick, mucks out its stall, feeds and waters it, gets its teeth "floated," and does anything else that the horse needs.
I don't want a relationship with a leader that is like a horse/rider relationship.
readytoblowagasket: are you being obtuse, or are you being obtuse?
May 7, 2008 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent post, I wish I could recommend it twice!
May 5, 2008 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great post and very well written.
I'd like to reach out to all candidates out there in candidate land and tell you something:
Please don't down boilermakers in the attempt to impress me. Drinking does not impress me. I was a pro - I know how easy it is. And for some reason I just cannot figure out what the hell is has to do with being a good choice for president.
May 5, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
In fact Candidates - you really want to impress me? Fire up a blunt and tell the country you're legalizing marijuana.
May 5, 2008 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm tellin you - those blunt wraps will kill you.
May 5, 2008 10:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Will we be allowed to inhale?
May 6, 2008 1:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not sure that it's fair to expect a more "feminine" style of government from a woman candidate. Look at Margaret Thatcher, Benazir Bhutto, Indira Gandhi, Kim Campbell, etc.
But I fully agree with your basic thesis, which is that Clinton realizes that, as a woman, she's likely to be judged as weak if she comes across "too feminine", and she's likely to be judged as strong (but unattractively feminist/macho etc.) if she apes the "masculine" style of the the male politicians colloquially described as *ssholes. It sucks that women politicians find themselves in this catch-22.
As a black man, Obama faces a similar catch-22. On one hand, a number of racist stereotypes (drugs, Muslim, radical black man, etc.) get deployed against him. When he proves to be far too smart, skilled, likable and sophisticated for those tropes to fit, he's judged to be "elitist". Unlike Clinton, though, Obama doesn't just play along with the manichean social givens that associate all things "presidential" with whiteness (and maleness), and all things "unpresidential" with blackness (and femaleness). He invites us to change the game.
... come to think of it, Clinton does invite us to change the rules of the game. But only when it comes to seating the delegates from MI and FL -- not when it comes to gender justice.
May 5, 2008 8:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well said
May 5, 2008 11:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would posit that none of the women you mentioned would have governed like women, but more like men.
I actually think we are in need of an actual woman ruler, who might rule more like a woman and less like a man. It hasn't really been tried thus far in history.
Why not give it a shot?
May 6, 2008 6:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
There's the difference. Hillary wants to Rule, Obama wants to Lead.
Dynasties have rulers. A free nation has leaders.
May 6, 2008 9:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Leader. Better word for sure, male or female.
May 6, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
My problem with her is that her pandering is bordering on psychosis (I know, not really, but the definition is to lose touch with reality, so figuratively...) This is getting absurd!
May 5, 2008 11:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary is a political whore, plain and simple.
May 6, 2008 12:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
lol! What a spectacularly stupid statement.
May 6, 2008 2:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Care to elaborate? Why do you think that statement is stupid? Not just stupid, but spectacularly so?
Your posts remind me of Hillary always cackling inappropriately when confronted with a truism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tngWyRHIjYU
May 6, 2008 9:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, I don't care to elaborate this time. Thanks anyway!
May 6, 2008 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry. I was under the impression that this was a discussion board. You know, exchange of opposing ideas? But I suppose doing a drive by only responding to one's comments as stupid works for you as far as civilized discussion goes. How elitist of me.
My mistake.
May 6, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
cackle.
May 6, 2008 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
:)
May 6, 2008 1:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for the excellent post! I wrote several novels on the backdrop of male vs. female strength (under the name "Vaughn") and did a lot of research for them. Of particular interest is a book called The Chalice and the Blade , which notes that patriarchies are usually more hierarchical than matriarchies, which are more relational... and in fact, all historical evidence of "matriarchies" shows that they gave equal respect to male and female, as opposed to trying to subordinate the males.
Obama runs a more relational campaign. Clinton runs a more hierarchical campaign. She is deliberately trying to mute the best strengths of being feminine... and I hate it.
May 6, 2008 2:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Have you noticed we don't live in a matriarchy?
And by the way, Obama doesn't, in fact, run a "relational" campaign. He's the top dog, as Samantha Power and Rev. Wright found out.
May 6, 2008 9:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
and Hillary did the same with Ferrraro, and several others.
What kind of top canine does that make her?
May 6, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
You tell me, liam.
May 6, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Care to share your sources here?
Efficient and successful organizational structures are determined by function, not gender.
May 6, 2008 3:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nor is it 1950.
But you wouldn't know that from this post and comment thread outlining acceptable female comportment.
May 6, 2008 9:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the excellent post.
Looking at it from an astrological perspective:
Hillary is behaving in the old-Age Piscean way - individualistic, competitive and divisive, while Obama's approach is more Aquarius orientated - unifying, cooperative, and inclusive.
This is the new direction that the world is moving, and hopefully the USA will hop aboard and lead from the front.
May 6, 2008 9:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the excellent comment.
May 6, 2008 9:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for continuing to live up to the Democrat logo. Now go blow your gasket.
May 6, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hi, princess! Where've you been? They've been waiting for you for hours.
I'm flattered you chose me for the first dance. ;-)
May 6, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Now lets look at the party affiliation associated with those traits -
Republicans: individualistic, competitive and divisive.
Democrats: unifying, cooperative and inclusive.
Who do you think should represent the Democrats as their nominee?
May 6, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
traits that make a President successful are intelligence, decency, integrity, and backbone - which has nothing to do with gender.
this can not be said enough, on the airwaves, over cable, shouted from tall buildings, talked about in schools and at the dinner table, etc
May 6, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with the post - but I think HRC's macho, militaristic, economist-doubtin' stance also seems to be a piece of classic Big Bill pol-driven calculation:
If the uneducated, poorer, more "bitter", more openly or subliminally racist white voters are the ones HRC can chip away to pull up her vote tally, she goes for them.
If it was the lesbian vote that could make the difference, she'd be wearing a vest and chugaluging Pinot Grigio in Provinctown right now, instead of telling everyone how she went huntin' with her dad with his left-handed Mauser rifle.
May 6, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
At the outset:
Finally a women candidate, who will have a great chance to become president. Great I thought. I am all for that. I am going to support Hillary. I will overlook her vote on the Iraq war, since John Kerry and John Edwards did the same thing, and I am sure that she no longer buys into the Bush saber rattling confrontational form of foreign policy.
I was wrong. Hillary choose to present herself to the nation as the Democrat's version of Mitt Romney. For God's sake folks, she now has James Carville hailing her for having three testicles. Some feminist indeed.
Hillary's campaign; in a nutshell: I am not women, hear me roar. I shoot down ducks. I down shooters. My paw thought me how to be a good ol' boy. That Obama guy does not understand we country folks. He will take away your guns. I have defied a nest of snipers. I will obliterate seventy million men, women, and children from the face of the earth.
Hillary is not a man, but she is now trying to pass as one. That means that Hillary does not believe in her own identity as a Woman. She has become a minstrel show performer. It is too appalling to watch.
May 6, 2008 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Liam, you hit it on the head. I too have supported HRC over many years - but there is something appalling about the way she assumes these bizarre positions, supposedly to demonstrate her fitness to be President.
By displaying complete cynicism, a willingness to support dangerous and misguided policies, by picking up the talking points of the whackjob right, she thinks she shows us she can win. Win? Win what?
Here's my question: what about the non-whackjob conservatives who have loathed HRC for 20 years? Were they right? Did they see something we didn't? Did we blind ourselves, the same way the koolaid-drinkers who support W do now?
May 6, 2008 12:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Am I the only one who thinks that Dee Dee Meyers should be the president someday?
May 6, 2008 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
The double irony with Hillary is that, despite her macho posturing and self portrayal as a strong woman candidate, her campaign has depended enormously upon the full-time on-the-stump efforts of a popular and (naturally) male, former President.
May 6, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, I'd posit that the difference between "men" and "women" politicians has less to do with gender than some comments on this thread would have us believe. Male and female politicians are held to different standards, both of them gendered (look at how Dukakis was pilloried for being "wimpy", or the gay-baiting aimed at Obama in the lower echelons of the blogosphere -- sorry, was that elitist?). But they respond to those gender expectations so differently that maybe gender just doesn't tell us much about how a politician is going to govern. Maybe we shouldn't expect gender to predict how a politician is going to govern.
May 6, 2008 12:34 PM | Reply | Permalink