I'm recommending this post out of sympathy...hillaryclinton08 you've submitted FOUR posts on TPM today!

You are a glutton for punishment and I salute you.

Tsk, tsk, tsk...TalkLeft and Crazy Bag Lady Taylor Marsh have decided that it's sexist if you use the term "fighting tooth and nail" in reference to Clinton.

How dare you???

11) She hopes that big wins in West Virginia and Kentucky will help her raise enough funds to pay off a chunk of her 20 million + dollars of campaign debt.

I'm going to kill this 2012 thing right now. If Obama loses the GE the fact of the matter is - Hillary will get some of the blame. Whether it is deserved or not, perception in politics is all that matters. So on to my point. Her political clout will be severely weakened and the odds of her being able to fund it, or get the nomination will be very long indeed.

Also stop with the big states reasoning. Because Hillary won the state in the primary is not an indicator that Obama with a few possible exceptions and these aren't must wins to win the GE. WV is one that comes to mind. To see how the electoral map is likely to change this year please go to fivethirtyeight.com

She might fight tooth and nail, but I fear the Super Delegates may be a lost cause. I think Obama has what he needs locked up and is trickling them out on purpose.

However Hillary08 I do salute your unwavering, positive loyalty. And because of it I have rec'd you too

West Virginia Senate Majority Leader Harry Truman Chafin,“Just wait ‘til we win like 80-20.”

“We’ve got to give her a vote tomorrow of 80-20 or 90-10,” he added moments later.

A campaign spokesman quickly tried to downplay Chafin’s remarks, saying “We appreciate his exuberance, but we're pretty sure this race is going to be much closer than that.”

Polls suggest Clinton will win West Virginia very easily — recent polls have shown her beating the Illinois senator by as much as 40 percentage points.

But Chafin isn’t the only one raising expectations.

Last week President Bill Clinton told a campaign crowd that ”all this stuff you are hearing about is an attempt to discourage you. That's what this is, pure and simple, hoping, 'Well, Hillary can get 80 percent of the vote in West Virginia', and if only 100,000 people show up it is not enough. But if 600,000 people show up, and you say, 'We want a president', then you will see the earth move.

There are 28 pledged delegates in play in West Virginia Tuesday, so a victory margin of 60-80 percent would allow Barack Obama to maintain a significant part of his 172 delegate lead, though it could slow his momentum.

Clinton herself didn’t completely shy away from the expectations game, calling Tuesday’s primary “a crucial turning point in this election.” She argued that voters’ primary objective should be to choose the candidate best suited to beat John McCain in the fall.

“I wouldn’t be doing this if I didn’t believe I could be the best president for West Virginia and America and that I was the stronger candidate to take on John McCain in the fall and make sure we have a Democrat in the White House,” she said.

Obama himself seemed happy to agree with the most optimistic Clinton campaign assessments. “I think President Clinton said that they are going to get 80 percent of the vote,” he told reporters in South Charleston Monday afternoon. “We’ll take him at his word.”

Another HRC idolator with a "kudzu" post.

Kudzu? That's a weed in the South that is so invasive, people describe it with the phrase, "Drop it and run!!!."

Just for fun: the Slate Delegate Counter:

http://www.slate.com/id/2185278/

If Hillary wins all six of the last primaries (West Virginia, Kentucky, Oregon, Puerto Rico, Montana and South Dakota) by 85% to 15%, oh wait...she still comes up short...

I hate to say this, but I really think Hillary will be too old in 2012. Now I'm concern trolling, but there is a HUGE double standard here. I do not have enough faith in our culture and its attitudes toward aging women. That said, I hope I age half as well as she is.

This is one case where raising expectations by HRC people probably isn't so stupid. She's going to win big, there's only one primary that night and its a foregone conclusion, the whole thing isn't going to mean anything in the long run and not that many people will be paying attention. So the rhetoric (YOU ALL ARE TOO RACIST TO VOTE FOR HIM, SO YOU'RE VOTING FOR ME!!!!! WHEEEE!!!!!) serves its purpose.

Don't worry, Obama will win Oregon. He has a solid lead in every single poll there, unlike Indiana where Hillary led every one of them in the weeks prior to the primary.

Oregon will be more like a clincher. Oregon favors Obama like NC did.

If Clinton supporters think she'll win Oregon (which is not impossible) I think they're in for a disappointment. Don't worry Obama supporters, Oregon is very highly in our favor.

It's also becoming that at this point in the game, the Democratic Party will never allow the rulings (where Michigan was judged last week an unconstitutional election, there illegitimate and shouldn't count) to overturn a win by Obama under the rules...rules that Clinton agreed with from the onstart ("they don't count", she said) but changed in the middle of the game.

We did it!

Hillaryclinton08 - YOU MADE THE RECOMMENDED LIST!

Congrats!!

Looking forward to reading your 4-5 blog posts today about how the WV results totally change the race.

2. Hillary is going to win HUGE in West Virginia, Kentucky, Puerto Rico and Might win Oregon.

Gosh, I would not count on a huge win in Puerto Rico. There has been only one poll taken in that territory and it is over a month old by now. The trend of her starting with a wide lead which narrows as the election draws near is nearly a cliché by this point, so anyone counting on that 13 pt lead she enjoyed at the start of April holding up seems to be setting him/herself up for a big disappointment. After all, for all the talk of his indictment, Acevado-Vila is still the governor and still controls a sizable political machine in PR. I doubt that will be enough to overcome Clinton's advantage as the senator from New York, but it should be enough to keep it close. I would be very surprised if PR is even as lopsided as OH, and I think that it is quite out of the realm of possibility that it will be as lopsided as WV or KY.

7. She has won all BIG democratic states, hoping to use that to get super delegates on her side.

All? Since when did Illinois cease to be a big democratic state? Incidentally, WI, MN, WA and OR might not be "big" in the same sense as OH or PA, but they are nonetheless important to a democrat's chances of victory, and Obama has already won three of those four and is on track to win the fourth handily. Your argument that the supers will be especially impressed by her "big" states, in other words, presupposes that the supers are the sorts of folks who think that five $20 bills are worth more than twenty $5 bills. I guess that I am unconvinced of the accuracy of that presupposition.

You should change your name to "delusional". HRC supporters, like the candidate herself, are still going through the stages of grief and are locked in the denial phase. It is no wonder that the large portion of her supporters openly refuse to transfer their support to Obama after his victory. They are mimicking the behavior of their God, HRC. A more vindictive, spiteful bitch could not have been found for this contest. It is that they must admire, as she has no other stronger traits. Good Riddance, let her self-destruct. Obama does not need her or Bubba.

I heard Terry McAuliffe on CNN this morning lyinjg again that Hillary will have received the most votes when all of this is over.

He conveniently ignores the fact that no record was kept of caucus votes in 4 states. So, he just ignores the votes in those states. Or more plainly put, he disenfranchises the voters in those states.

He also conveniently ignores the fact that 40% of Michigan voters voted for "Uncommitted." Since Hillary was on the ballot, this can loosely be translated as "Anyone but Hillary." Since Obama is the only besides Hillary still in the race, those votes go to him in any sane world.

When the unrecorded caucus state votes & the uncommitted Michigan votes are factored in, Obana easily got the most votes.Sorry, Terry, but you can't make it up as you go along & have any credibility.

Number 11: She's in hock and needs to pay off Mark Penn and her loans to the campaign.

Number 12: "It's going to be me, Katie." (11/2007)

Number 13: It's ALL about ME. She's delusional and doesn't give a crap what happens to the Democratic Party; after all, McSame "is qualified to be commander-in-chief."

11). She is insane.
12). She is the sorest loser on the planet.

VERY GOOD POINT!! There are also other points I wanted to bring up in which I had found on YourThreeCents.com

The Obama Bandwagon
May 13, 2008, 11:22 am
Posted by Front Lumps in Election2008

Beware of the silver tongued devil who seduces the masses with his rhetoric. For he is the antichrist, Barrack Hussein Osama incarnate.

But seriously though you people are pathetic. Everytime you watch an infomercial, you must by the crap 50X over becuase you're so easily manipulated into believing anything as long as whoever sells it is able to string together a few sentences without stuttering. I could probably sell you a shoebox full of shit for $1000 as long as I spoke like Hussein Obama and gave you a bunch of empty promises.

Thank Gog young people never actually show up to vote.

Comments
Posted by village q voice
on May 13, 2008, 11:46 am

Why so hostile front lumps? Would you prefer McCain-is he not the devil incarnate? They are both pretty bad but it looks like this is what we have to work with. I would arther have someone who wants change rather than sticking to the norm-which has not worked for us already

"1. Pushing back against political punditry, more than six in 10 Democrats say there's no rush for Hillary Clinton to leave the presidential race  even as Barack Obama consolidates his support for the nomination and scores solidly in general-election tests. Despite Obama's advantage in delegates and popular vote, 64 percent of Democrats in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll say Clinton should remain in the race. Even among Obama's supporters, 42 percent say so. "

The pundits don't matter, what the rank and files says doesn't matter, what matters is if she can possibly win this without shattering the party's chances, and she can't, because she's going to have gone against the popular vote, and the pledged delegates. And if she manages to get the superdelegates to turn against the popular vote, say 'sayanara' to the new, young voters that have been coming into the party. Unless Obama absolutely tanks (pictures of an amorous encounter with a goat, say), stick a fork in her, she's done!

"2. Hillary is going to win HUGE in West Virginia, Kentucky, Puerto Rico and Might win Oregon."
See '1.', above.

"3. Obama still needs the super delegates to push him over the top, in order to reach 2,025 delegates...... Hillary is going to fight hime tooth and nail to stop that from happening."
See '1.', above.

"4. Hillary is waiting to see on May 31, what is going to happen with Michigan & Florida."
See '1.', above.

"5. "IF" she can pull off a win in the popular vote with or without michigan and florida, she is going to use that to her favor."
See '1.', above.
"6. In the national polls, they are both favored by democrates to go up against John McCain...as long as she stays in the above 40% in the polls."
See '1.', above.
"7. She has won all BIG democratic states, hoping to use that to get super delegates on her side."
Oddly, she's still losing; see '1.', above.
"8. She is hoping that something between May & June about Obama will help her take over and become the winner."
See '1.', above.

9. She is hoping that by staying in, he will be pushed to pick her as his VP. She has now been enough of a pain in the ass, I think he'd rather invite a cannibal over to dinner, with the cannibal doing the cooking; see '1.', above.

"10. She is staying to gather up support for a 2012 possible run." She has now shown herself to be a 'cannibal', where's she going to get a team? See '1.', above.

Limbaugh. Rove. These guys aren't geniuses. They're just dirtier then most of us so they end up looking smart because they don't give a damn about how their actions hurt their fellow Americans. That's all there is to their success.

The only reason operation chaos may be having some affect is because the Republican primary has long been decided.

I am an Obama supporter and I don't want her to leave the race entirely. I just want her to stop going negative against our parties presumptive nominee and insulting voters she doesn't win over.

I am all for her staying in until June 3rd and help drive up voter registration and party building that these races bring with them.

So several of your points are not entirely off-base, but probably not the same rationales you seem to be reading into your "poll numbers".

...and Might win Oregon.

Not a chance in hell. She is down by over 20% in the polling here and I have talked with MANY Democrats throughout the state, she will lose by NC type margins here.

Hmmm. I'm pretty sure Vanity was accidentally omitted from the list...