Unfortunately, there is a suspicion that the Clintons are not entirely convinced that it wouldn't be in their best interest to undermine Obama. Her demonstrably false remarks about her having the only viable winning voting coalition fro the general is the latest example.

Maybe that just a a gambit in a tough negotiation...to get what I am not sure.

But, ask yourself this, if they had to which would they choose: (1) stopping the campaign, throwing their support to Obama who then goes on to win and serve two terms, ending forever, their Hillary's chance to be president, or (2)weakening Obama so he loses against McCain and then preparing for a Hillary in 2012 "I told you so" campaign.
I am not saying I know the answer, but the fact that it is not 100% clear that they are going with (1) is very very troubling.

Everyone wants to move on. She just keep sucking us back in.

I recommend for the title alone.

Give 'em some time. They'll mellow.

I agree. I've been referring people to this piece from the Onion, circa December, 2004:

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/swift_boat_veterans_still_hounding

We can stop the attack now, and work on rebuilding the unity. It's over, despite what happens int he death throes.

Excellent thoughts & advise. I think what we're witnessing is Terminator syndrome. People (especially after her "nuke" talk) are really leary of getting emotionally attached to the inevitable outcome until she either concedes or he clinches. I am stoked but I'll feel way more comfortable & ready to pop the cork when it comes from the horses mouth.

As long as supporters on both side understand that it would be perplexing to many of us if either were not to support whomever the nominee happens to be! I understand the polls are the polls and that emotions are running high, but serioulsy whether you are an Obama supporter or a Clinton supporter to think that you would abandon the party if your choice is not the people's coice makes no sense to me whatsoever. Just look at the policies, forget about the candidates, when you do that it is hard to understand how you could vote for either Clinton or Barack and then look at John McCain's record and say, Yeah that suites me much better. It's fricken crazy and by any strecth of the imaginiation both Dem candidates records are far more in sync than McCain's record. Add his record with the fact that he has been running the George Bush campaign by pandering to the religious and neo-conservative right and his record would seem to be getting further and further away from either of the Dem's position. So I take the results with a grain of salt and chalk it up to emotion but if the case happens to be true than the country which happens to be my native one is as screwed up as all the lambasting I have railed against for the last 20 years. I believe this is the most important election in my life and perhaps the ost important since the 60's.

well said. This isn't "Clinton talking points memo". The Clinton's thrive on media attention. On creating division.

We're not obliged to cooperate.

The other part of this "retire Hillary's debt" thing would only matter if she dropped out. If she is running to the end of primary season then there is no quid pro quo and therefore Obama could not redirect his spending toward retiring her debt. She would have to drop out for this debt-retirement plan to become effective. And if she keeps running through end of May then the efficacy of doing so is null. I frankly doubt she will drop out till after June 3 so - no incentive.

When puppies have behavioral issues with biting, the best way to correct it is by gently but firmly redirecting their bites to an appropriate target.

Go gettim!

Good dog, good dog!

Amen.

Have you learned nothing from Jason, Freddy Krueger and Christopher Lee's Dracula flicks?

Seriously, her chances of winning are exhausted. Her opportunites for bringing the party, and the presumptive nominees chances in the general, are not. I'd just as soon not declare "Mission Accomplished" until the mission is actually accomplished.

Have you learned nothing from Jason, Freddy Krueger and Christopher Lee's Dracula flicks?

Seriously, her chances of winning are exhausted. Her opportunites for bringing the party, and the presumptive nominees chances in the general, are not. I'd just as soon not declare "Mission Accomplished" until the mission is actually accomplished.

Wait, why is anyone recommending this post? What did you learn here? You heard someone list a complaint with no alternative solution. Just because you agree with the complaint DOESN'T make this a good post. If you agree with the complaint, go make a better post, fill up the Cafe with intelligent posts on the topic, don't bitch because other people aren't saying things you want to hear or taking things the way you want them to take it.

The best that Hillary could hope for is a Cheney-style Vice Presidency.

Actually, she'll begin to realize that she'll be better off in the Senate, where she can stay and become even more powerful.

I dont agree with the title or the post.

I dont know, my feelings arent hurt from reading TPM today, or yesterday. I think their is still a good reason to keep eyes on Hillary, we just dont know what she is going to do. And while she is still in it, the Primary has not ended.

Its just a fact. It may be over in your mind, and yes, I think I'd agree with you, but again, thats in your mind, its not a fact.

So I'll keep paying attention, and hopefully nothing crazy happens, but if it does, I wont be caught with my pants down.

They still have to figure out MI and FLA and we still have to see if Hillary was successful in telling everyone it was Obama's fault instead of blaming the appropriate parties within FLA and MI local government.