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Walt Disney meets Pol Pot

I read this from Matt Stoller on Huffington:

We have a leader, and he's not a partisan and he can now end fractious intraparty fights with a word and/or a nod. His opinion really matters in a way that even Nancy Pelosi's just did not. He has control of the party apparatus, the grassroots, the money, and the messaging environment. He is also, and this is fundamental, someone that millions of people believe in as a moral force. When you disagree with Obama, you are saying to these people 'your favorite band sucks'. (bold emphasis mine)
For some years now, I have suffered from chronic bronchitis and thus have lost touch with modern cannabis. Those of my boomer generation, whose health has permitted them to keep up to date with its development, tell me that the strains of modern muggles have nothing in common in power, purity and effect with the substances that brought such joy to those of us who came of age with R. Crumb and Gilbert Sheldon.

If I had any doubts of the truth of the amazing tales of my coevals, this post by Mr. Stoller has completely dispelled them. His mess of power fantasy and mental masturbation reads like a mixture of Walt Disney and Pol Pot (pardon the pun).

The challenge that the Hawaiian Messiah now faces is how to get rid of people like Mr. Stoller as fast and tactfully as possible and buckle down to "politics as usual" ASAP, if he doesn't want to break George McGovern's all time record this fall.

Stoller's statement, and especially its tone, when read in an attack ad would have a worse effect than Reverend Wright's YouTube loops.

A lot of the pressure on Hillary to quit the race NOW is because next week polls show that she is fixing to win West Virginia by (hold onto your hats) FORTY POINTS.
And then there is Kentucky...

This is how Jay Cost breaks it all down over at RCP:
West Virginia is 95% white, and one of the poorest states in the nation. Demographically, Pennsylvania's twelfth congressional district is a decent proxy of it. Clinton won Pennsylvania's twelfth by 46 points. A recent Rasmussen survey put her up 29 points in the Mountaineer State, with 17% undecided. Another poll had her up 40 points, with Obama under 25%. Kentucky is not as poor or as white as West Virginia, but it is nearly so. Demographically, Kentucky falls somewhere between Ohio's sixth congressional district, which went for Clinton by 45 points, and the seventeenth, which went for her by 28 points. A recent Survey USA poll of the Bluegrass State had her up 34 points - with a staggering 72 point lead in the east, where Obama was winning less than 20% of the vote. Rasmussen recently had her up 25 points with 13% undecided.
West Virginia or Kentucky by themselves are perhaps not that significant in the Democratic primaries, however they do give a taste of an America that will be very visible in November. It is an America that Chris Rock pungently described as:
"filled up with broke-ass white people, living in a trailer, eatin' mayonnaise sandwiches, f*ckin' wit' their sister, and listenin' to John Cougar Mellencamp records."
Now, over the years these folks have enjoyed voting against Adlai Stevenson, George McGovern, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis and John Kerry... but Barack Obama has got to be their dream to vote against, not only is he as "pointy headed" and as liberal as the afore mentioned, but they suspect him of being a Muslim and to top it off he is actually black, not a surrogate like Bubba.

This was going to be the campaign that would prove to the world that America has moved beyond race. In fact it is going to prove the opposite and be the ugliest in living memory.

Al Gore would have been perfect this year. Nobel Peace Prize, Oscar, right on the war, visionary on new technology and climate change...  Instead we have this nightmare stretching out before us.

The Democratic Party will never be the same again no matter who finally wins the nomination.
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Comments (13)

What? So your argument is that we should continue to nominate white guys so we can continue to hide away our country's prejudices, be it racism or sexim, or any other ugly form of hate? Keep it packed away in a neat little box while we call ourselves the land of the free?

Screw that. Rip off the band-aid. Shine a spotlight on anyone who's ignorant enough to vote out of prejudice, hate, or fear.

You have no idea what this race is going to prove. No one does. All you're showing here is your fear that our country is more ignorant than not. Well, I don't buy it.

Rip off the band-aid. Shine a spotlight on anyone who's ignorant enough to vote out of prejudice, hate, or fear.

It would be nice to pass some health care legislation and not have Roe-Wade overturned,even if we had to keep the band-aid on for a bit.

Yeah, it would. But you're the one who seems to think that we can't do that if we nominate a black man. Or a woman. Not me.

The Democratic Party will never be the same again no matter who finally wins the nomination.

I agree with your last line. The party will never be the same, and that's a really good thing. A stake has finally been driven through the heart of the DLC conventional campaign wisdom which preaches the importance of the "Reagan democrat" vote and which guided the Gore, Kerry and Clinton campaigns to defeat.

The rest of your post I think is complete and utter hogwash.

Why is it so hard to understand that the democratic coalition is being reconfigured; the composition of the electorate has changed considerably since 2004; and that Obama, Axelrod, and et al have refined the Dean/Trippi campaign model to defeat the once inevitable candidate.

Looking in the "rearview mirror and pretend[ing] to see the future", as Joe Klein put it, is a fools game. As is predicting the outcome of a general election based upon primary election results.

Now, over the years these folks have enjoyed voting against Adlai Stevenson, George McGovern, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis and John Kerry.

Actually, for what it's worth, Stevenson carried Kentucky and West Va. in 1952...And Dukakis carried West Va. in 1988.

Beyond that, what Chris Brown said.

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Pol Pot?

This is what you guys are reduced to? Pol Pot? And you think that's clever?

Take a deep breath. And yes, go ahead, inhale, it's air. It's good for you and it's free. And when the oxygen finally hits your brain, relax and reflect: Obama has won the Democratic Primary. You can get behind the Democratic candidate for President or you can wallow in your loss. Okay, wallow for a while, then when you're ready, we'll be here waiting for you, brother, we'll be here.

Sure... But what if all the Reagan Democrats and the Catholics and the Hispanics break for McCain... Where do you wait then?

What if they don't?

John B. Judis spelled it all out in The New Republic:

In North Carolina, where the white Democratic electorate is liberal and tolerant (only five percent of the primary electorate voted against Obama because of race, compared to over 11 percent in Pennsylvania and Ohio), Obama could still win only 36 percent of white voters. In the fall, when African Americans will only make up about 23 percent of North Carolina's electorate, he would have to win 38 percent of all whites to carry the state.(...) In the Iowa Caucus, Obama defeated Clinton among "moderate" voters by 33 to 31 percent and barely lost "conservatives" by 22 to 21 percent. He was perceived as a middle-of-the-road candidate or, even better, as standing above ideology. But he increasingly is seen as the "liberal" or even "very liberal" candidate. In Indiana, he bested Clinton among liberals 55 to 45 percent but lost moderates by 53 to 46 percent and conservatives by 65 to 35 percent. He can't carry that political image into the fall and hope to defeat McCain. In most of the swing states that he would need to win, liberals occupy a much smaller niche than they in the Democratic primary. Moderates are the key.(...)In the 2004 election, voters repeatedly expressed their preference for a "strong leader," but Obama has yet to establish himself in this respect. He is regularly judged more "honest and trustworthy" than Clinton, but those qualities have proved less important to choosing a president. In Indiana, voters thought Clinton more qualified to be commander in chief by 54 to 43 percent. Nine percent of Obama voters acknowledged that Clinton was "more qualified to be commander in chief." In North Carolina, eleven percent of Obama voters preferred Clinton. Obama appears to be somewhat effete, which will, unless remedied, cause him difficulty against McCain in the fall, particularly among white males.(...) Obama initially held his own among voters who attend church regularly. In New Hampshire, he bested Clinton by 37 to 32 percent among weekly churchgoers--and he didn't have to include religious African Americans in the total. But Obama has increasingly lost this vote and gained adherents among the non-religious. In Indiana, he lost to Clinton among weekly and occasional churchgoers but defeated her among those who never attend church. That can hurt him in the fall in states Obama wants to win. In Virginia, for instance, weekly and occasional churchgoers made up 83 percent of the general electorate in 2004. The challenge for Obama will be to reach out to religious voters without reminding voters of his ties to Reverend Wright.
To pull this off Obama had to win quickly before people ever got a real chance to look at him.

Judis is playing the fool's game of projecting possible general election results from primary
results. Just as foolishly he compares caucus results in Iowa in January to Indiana primary election results in May. Which goes to show that Judis is a fool.

Do you understand upon how many levels Judis' methodology is so wrong?

Comparing a cuacus in January to a primary in May. Comparing Iowa to Indiana. And comparing a primary to a general. It's just ridiculous.

Look. Obama is the nominee. Why not wait until the general election to see what happens rather than engaging in this "what if" and "could" nonsense.

Hey, enough with the gratuitous smears of West Virginia and Kentucky! As a WV native, I can attest that there are many, many, many fine, loving, wonderful people in the state who are progressive to the bone. I'm sure the same is true of Kentucky.

You are so full of yourself (or of something). If you enjoy the gleefully mindless spewing of hateful speech and negativity, please find yourself a nice right-wing blog or talk radio show on which to do so.

You're right. Placing folks in WV and/or KY into tidy little categories, such as vacuous media talking hairdos and others do, is just another form of bigotry.

It's a shame. With Al Gore everything would have turned out all right.

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