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Vice Presidential Profiles: Kathleen Sebelius (Gov-KS)
This is the third in our week-long series profiling the most likely vice presidential candidates. We've previously profiled Sen. Jim Webb and Gov. Ted Strickland.
One of the most buzzed about possibilities for the VP slot is Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius. Gov. Sebelius is a popular governror of a conservative state. She has a 61% approval rating in a state where Bush bested Kerry by 25 points. That approval rating makes her one of the most popular governors in the country, and there's no doubt she'd be inclined to consider an offer given that Kansas term limits prevent her for running for governor again (her term expires at the end of 2010). Futhermore, she endorsed Obama, and would act as a salve to those who were hoping to see a woman at the top of the ticket. The ostensible ability to increase Obama's pull among women is probably her strongest appeal, but this may be negated by the fact that Hillary Clinton is likely to campaign on behalf of Obama following the end of the primary season, and, despite the divide between the two camps now, one would imagine Clinton will be very effective at wooing women to the Democratic ticket.
Gov. Sebelius has consistently proven her abilities as a campaigner. She began her career as a state representative before winning the position of insurance commissioner in 1994. That marked the first time a Democrat had won the seat in more than 100 years. During her tenure as insurance commissioner, she refused to take money from insurance companies, and blocked the merger of Blue Cross and Shield with an Indiana health insurance company. This provides Sebelius with instant credibility on health reform.
In 2006, Gov. Sebelius ran with Mark Parkinson, former chair of the Kansas Republican Party (and former Republican generally), as her lieutenant governor. This ties in well with Obama's pledge to transcend the normal partisan divides. Gov. Sebelius, though personally opposed to abortion, has vetoed legislation that would tighten restrictions on the practice and use coercive tactics to try and sway a woman's decision. She also opposed an amendment to the Kansas constitution that banned same-sex marriage, though she justified this by pointing to a similar law already on the books, which she felt was sufficient.
Sebelius has consistently stood firm in her opposition to the coal energy. While this may be an admirable position, and will certainly encourage Democrats who view Obama as weak on coal interests, it's difficult to determine which voters you actually win by opposing coal. Voters who'd like to see stronger environmental stands from the candidates are unlikely to vote for McCain at any rate. I don't foresee West Virginia going for Obama anyway, but Sebelius at the bottom of the ticket would pretty much guarantee the Democrats lose it. On principle I would love to see more honesty about the coal industry from our Democratic leaders, but in terms of strengthening a ticket, I don't see how it would.
A particularly interesting statistic regarding Gov. Sebelius comes from a just released Rasmussen poll of the state:
Twenty-eight percent (28%) of Kansas voters are more likely to vote for Obama if Sebelius is on the ticket while 34% say they are less likely to vote for Obama with Sebelius as the Vice-Presidential candidate. Among unaffiliated voters, 30% are more likely and 31% less likely to vote for Obama if he picks the Kansas Governor as his running mate.
I can't quite understand why a Sebelius VP candidacy does no better than break even, especially in her home state where she is overwhelmingly popular, and yet in this poll she turns away as many voters as she wins. This makes me seriously question her ability to draw additional voters to an Obama ticket, and might point to a general backlash against a ticket that features two political minorities.
At any rate, McCain currently leads Obama in Kansas by 21 points. It seems highly unlikely that this state will be in play come November even with Sebelius on the ticket, and while it is not necessary for a vice presidential candidate to put their state into play, we have a lot of strong contenders this cycle who very well could help win their home states. Moreover, Sebelius is probably the best candidate to run for the open Senate seat from Kansas in 2010, after Sen. Brownback retires. It's quite conceivable that Sebelius could help us secure an additional senate seat out of a very red state. It would a great shame to waste her as a vice-presidential candidate, especially given that she'll be hard pressed to run for president following an Obama administration; she'll be 68 in 2016.
My ultimate opinion on Gov. Sebelius is that she's better suited to a future senate seat in 2010 than she is to a vice presidential candidacy in 2008. The numbers don't suggest that her addition to the ticket will add many voters to Obama's column, but given her popularity within her home state, I can very well imagine her winning us an additional senate seat in two years.
Join us tomorrow for our profiles of Virginia Governor Tim Kaine and former General Wesley Clark.








Comments (35)
Tip jar -- If you believe profiling the major contenders for the vice presidential nomination is a worthwhile effort, we'd much appreciate a recommendation.
May 21, 2008 8:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Some other possible profiles for VP:
First, I have no inside knowledge of who is on Obama's short list or long list. I've heard that some of the people around him like Sam Nunn (who I decidedly do NOT favor) as well as other swerves to the DLC type Democrats (in addition to Hillary Clinton), such as Wes Clark. Clark and Nunn, though I don't want either on the ticket, should be profiled (maybe next week : ) ).
Personally, I think Obama should pick (1) a woman (not Hillary) and (2) Someone who at least never SUPPORTED the Iraq War Resolution (IWR). The latter point is key in this election, as Obama himself repeatedly noted, and would help bolster the notion that Obama stands for something (a something that happens to be quite popular right now). My suggestions include Barbara Boxer, who has LOTS of foreign policy background (just about as much as any of those either profiled or who will be profiled. (I DISAGREE with those who would suggest that the background of a general, while related to foreign policy, is really the same as or better than extensive background IN FOREIGN POLICY FORMULATION, which is what the president/commander in chief must do). Boxer opposed the IWR back when, is strong on the Greenhouse (for a pol), is a particularly knowledgeable and capable senator, very popular, very likeable, very unifying. She would boost Obama in particular (in my arrogant opinion) in FL.
Other female contenders include Gov Napolitano (who I haven't been able to determine on IWR back when) and Sen Stabenow, who voted no on IWR back when. As for male contenders, none of them I think would be as good as the top handful of female contenders (both in principle -- it's high time there was a woman not only on a ticket, but on a WINNING ticket, which is possible this year, and politically -- there will be a lot of disappointed women out there with Hillary's defeat, and a female candidate would garner not only their votes, but their active and enthusiastic support). But there's Bill Richardson, arguably the best (and politically most boosting) of Obama's competitors for the nomination. A lot of people are talking about Gov Schweitzer of MT as a political master stroke, and he also opposed IWR back when. Many favor Edwards, but I think that he did NOT boost Kerry all that much, if at all, in 04, especially in the debates. I agree that Mark Warner would be good to profile, and of course, whether we like it or not, considering Hillary Clinton as a VP choice -- both electorally and in terms of the position.
May 22, 2008 7:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
I love me some Barbara Boxer and Sen. Stabenow is my state senator. I think we should also note that, a woman supporter who supported Hillary Clinton would be beneficial. Which both these women did. And the fact that they both opposed the War is definitely a plus like you said.
On Sebeilus, one important note: She's also Catholic which is a group that Clinton was doing better with. And even though she's opposed to clean coal (thank god)she's still a rural governor and that would work well against Obama's "Elitist" label.
*throws a few dollars in the tip jar* This is definitely a fun idea for VP profiles. Thanks!
May 22, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Jim Webb has a number of reasons not to appeal to liberals.
May 21, 2008 11:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
It read his Wiki entry earlier today, after listening to his interview on NPR's Fresh Air. Yes, numerous reasons.
There's something quite odd about him that I can't put my finger on. Ah, yes: he'd make a perfect Republican.
May 21, 2008 7:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Corrected:
I read his Wiki entry earlier today, after listening to his interview on NPR's Fresh Air. Yes, numerous reasons.
There's something quite odd about him that I can't put my finger on. Ah, yes: he'd make a perfect Republican.
May 21, 2008 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
since when are women-who make up at least half of the population- considered a minority group?
May 21, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought that be not communicate well. I was trying to say they are a "political minority group," as in that they're underrepresented in politics. I'm aware they actually make up about 51% of the population.
Sorry for any confusion that may have caused.
May 21, 2008 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
My concern with Hillary campaigning for Obama is that is waiting too long to end the primary season, and its too late for her to campaign for him without looking disingenuous. If the primaries ended in say, the end of March, she's be able to go out there for Obama. Now people will just look and say "Didn't you say just last week that Obama doesn't care about white people..."
And that's assuming that Clinton will campaign for him. I find it very unlikely that she will campaign actively, even if she is the VP choice.
May 21, 2008 7:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I find it very unlikely that she will campaign actively
Please read the news rather than posting ignorance like this. It only makes you look stupid.
May 21, 2008 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
What in the news makes what bsuey said unlikely?
I read the news and what bsuey said seems likely.
May 22, 2008 1:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Virginia's Mark Warner is another name that is supposedly on Obama's short list, can anyone confirm and if so, how about a profile?
May 21, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm thinking Mark Warner is going to take John Warner's Senate seat. But if we have the time, we'll try to get to him to, because he certainly has a bright future in Democratic politics.
May 21, 2008 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please please please profile Janet Napolitano, Governor of Arizona. She's the shit.
May 21, 2008 8:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Any man that polite deserves to have his wish granted. We'll profile her between Friday and Sunday. Keep checking back here or with my blog at www.theleftanchor.com to know when she'll be featured.
May 21, 2008 9:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can we also profile Sam Nunn?
May 22, 2008 1:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
What about Senator Bill Nelson of Florida? I never hear his name brought up. But he's pretty popular in Florida, not too old and a moderate dem. At least worth considering
May 21, 2008 8:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
If I can get to him, I will. But I'm not going to lie, I don't think he's on anyone's short list. So, his profile will depend on how quickly I can get the others out.
I think you guys are really going to like Tim Kaine's profile tomorrow. I think it's our strongest piece yet.
May 21, 2008 9:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Re: Tim Kaine-
Isn't the Lt. Gov. of Virginia a Republican? This would have to figure into any consideration of him as Veep nominee, wouldn't it? Or is Kaine just that awesome that we'd want him on the ticket no matter what? Guess I'll find out tomorrow...
May 21, 2008 11:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like Bob Graham also..is that a possiblility?
May 22, 2008 1:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
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May 21, 2008 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
What about profiling Bill Richardson? Is there even still talks about him as a possible running mate for Obama? I know there was tons of talk about it after he endorsed Obama, so...
May 21, 2008 11:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I belive an Obama/Richardson ticket is far more progessive than America is ready for. Honestly, a black and hispanic...would that EVEN be a winner?
May 22, 2008 1:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
I heard somewhere that the VP candidate is pure electoral math - the one picked is the one that helps swing states. It's not bad logic - possibly why Kerry picked Edwards as it looked like he'd help him with the south.
I just did a 50-state napkin analysis based on Obama vs McCain with www.pollster.com data, and the big swing states are mostly in the midwest - Ohio, Michigan, and Indiana - though there are some others like Colorado. Based on the data, looks like Ted Strickland might be the pick of the litter.
May 21, 2008 11:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
And how effective was that choice in terms of electoral math? Edwards did not even carry his home state.
May 22, 2008 1:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
That Rasmussen poll is of only 500 likely voters. Margin of error is plus-minus 4.5%, 19 times in 20. Grain of salt.
As noted, Kansas is a very red state.
The "idea" of Sebelius as Obama's running mate may not resonate now, but that could change as national polls show him headed toward the presidency. State pride and all.
A female, fairly conservative VP nominee, with proven ability to reach across the aisle, should broaden Obama's November appeal.
She's also Catholic, has Ohio roots, her dad was a Republican governor, and she's a good campaigner.
She'd be my pick, way ahead of Jim Webb.
May 21, 2008 11:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree...wull a white woman on ticket carry Appalchia? Or will the very idea of on the basis of race/gender in terms of the race and gender issues in America be an even BIGGER problem?
May 22, 2008 1:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think that her connection to Ohio would help her there much. It's a bit tenuous. That said, I agree that I'd probably take her before Webb. Our Webb profile left us less than impressed with what he brings to the ticket. His numbers in Virginia aren't very good, and he's generally considered a poor campaigner.
May 22, 2008 4:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
While this might be odd, as I doubt that anybody else even considered considering him, could you profile William Fallon?
May 21, 2008 11:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who is Fallon and what would he bring to the ticket?
May 22, 2008 1:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's the general who stepped down when it was discovered that he was the only thing standing between Bush and an invasion of Iran, which means he gets military and maverick. He's the only person who can can truthfully claim that he both has experience in running military affairs in the middle east and that he stood up to Bush.
May 22, 2008 8:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
I put up a post about Gov. Schweitzer of MT. He's a really interesting character. I'd love to get your take on him. In my post I tried to get fancy with html tags which didn't work properly and made it difficult to read. I posted it here http://bademus.wordpress.com/2008/05/19/meet-brian-schweitzer/
where the layout is better. Or you can click on my name below and wade through all the html tag text.
May 21, 2008 11:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
No disrespect but what does a politician from MT bring to the ticket? What states would that carry?
May 22, 2008 1:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Is Sebelius...Ted Strickland's daughter?
If so, she is a twofer...she will carry the state based on her Dad's rep...and he can campaign with her and carry more states..maybe?
May 22, 2008 1:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
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No - her father is John J Gillian who served as Ohio Gov in the early 70's. Use the Google friend, it will put you in touch with real info and save you the embarrassment of rather foolish speculations. I think you will find Gov Strickland is about 67 and Sebeilus just celebrated her 60th birthday on May 15.
May 22, 2008 9:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
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