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TPM - Why Nothing on Obama's Press Release?
Election Central so far today has posted:
From Camp Clinton:
- Clinton's plan to put forth her gas tax holiday legislation.
- The full text of a letter from former DNC chairs supporting Clinton
- The full text of Clinton's remarks on her gas tax gimmick.
- Comments from Clinton about Tuesday being a game changer.
- Clinton's endorsement by an Indianapolis newspaper.
From Camp Obama:
- Response ad to the gas tax proposal.
Everything else was poll results or related to other races.
TPM has not posted anything about the press conference Obama held this morning.
TPM has not posted anything relating to the Kantor video (which admittedly might not be legitimate, but will still echo across the campaign this weekend and potentially damage Clinton).
Now, I'm not big on claiming bias, but guys, look at what you're reporting and NOT reporting.













Comments (41)
They must be only giving the info that they are getting from Mr. Blumenthal.
May 2, 2008 4:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL
May 2, 2008 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
What happened at the press conference? Missed it.
May 2, 2008 4:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
You can read it here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/02/obama-compares-clinton-to_n_99813.html
It was a good talk and totally skewered Clinton's gas tax plan. Here's a sample:
Now, a big part of why so many folks are struggling is that Washington hasn't been looking out for them. For too long, we've had a politics that's been more about scoring points than solving problems.
We've had a good example of this lately, with the so-called gas tax holiday that Senator Clinton is proposing. At best, this is a plan that would save you pennies a day for the summer months; that is, unless gas prices are raised to fill in the gap, which is just what happened in Illinois, when we tried this a few years ago. Just this morning, there was an article in the paper about how the real beneficiaries of this tax holiday would be the oil companies, who'd walk away with billions more in profits.
May 2, 2008 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure the perceived pro-Clinton news balances out with the clearly pro-Obama blog postings/comments.
May 2, 2008 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, just like the pro-Bush press of the last 8 years was totally balanced out by some folks like us posting on the internet. Seriously.
May 3, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Kantor video doesn't sound like it deserves to be mentioned if it's as iffy as I'm hearing, but I agree about the press conference. I didn't even know he was having one.
May 2, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
What press conference? What video?
May 2, 2008 4:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Info is here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/02/obama-compares-clinton-to_n_99813.html
May 2, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with all you say; however, I am relieved Josh and the other folks here are not reporting on the Cantor story. Steve Benen over at Carpetbagger has a good take on this one. It is so easy to destroy a person's good reputation just because we are frightened and angry. We need to be careful not to do this. It's just not right, and I don't think it would help Obama either.
I'm new here, but the Blumenthol story seems an important one, particularly as he is a person many of us once admired.
I've been thinking about it a lot today, and my theory is that even in the liberal blogosphere, we can get into a kind of "cronyism." People are friends; they go back a long way. Nobody wants to rat out a friend.
However, what do you do when that friend has been spreading right-wing rumors for months? This seems like a story that should have been covered here.
Anyway, I wish people would cover it now, and also explain why this information wasn't brought out before.
Maybe people just felt the way I do: sad.
I keep saying the word "sad" today, but I really did like Blumenthol. I thought he was one of the good-guys.
He may still be, but his actions are unconscionable.
The lesson: even the liberal blogosphere may need to watch out for its own brand of cronyism. The cronyism that created the drumbeat towards the war in Iraq can infect this important realm of truth, too.
Peace,
Laura
May 2, 2008 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I feel sad about the Clintons. I hate what was done to them in the 90's. And it saddens me to see them using the same folks who tried to destroy them to try to destroy Obama. That's not what I want Democrats to be about.
May 3, 2008 2:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
testing pic
May 3, 2008 2:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with Phoebe Fay (as usual) but I also agree with this re: Kantor story. The Kantor story is lame. I have seen that clip (as have all who saw the DVD) and he did NOT say the things he is accused of saying. I am no fan of those folks (especially the despicable Carville and Stephanopoulis), but Kantor did not say that. Why would he? He was obviously talking about the people in the White House (i.e. Bushies) shitting their pants (he clearly said shitting, not "shit,") and as for why he whispered the second comment, he may have not wanted to come off as too cocky in front of the camera about the good news they had just received. Again, this story needs to go away.
May 3, 2008 5:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
I totally agree with this LBS:
"It is so easy to destroy a person's good reputation just because we are frightened and angry"
And feel sad that the same courtesy was not paid to Wright.
May 3, 2008 9:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
I completely agree. Wright served in a war and has worked to help people for years, and yet now people blithely denounce him. I don't blame Obama, but everyone else . . . ?
What White Americans don't know about racism in this country could fill ghettos and prisons.
It already does.
Anyway, on a side note, I'm not sure I want to vote for Schumer or Clinton again. I know that's a stupid idea (now that she's up in the polls, Clinton says so).
Does anyone offer any reason I should?
Peace,
Laura
May 3, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, I can't think of a one. Schummer was lost to me when he voted for Muckasey!
May 3, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama did every thing he could to help Wright and he had many defenders before his racist rant before the NAACP. Whatever happens from here on out it is all on Rev Wright.
May 3, 2008 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
If the Kantor video hurts anyone, it will be Obama. We'll see just how dirty the Clinton team wants to play it, but they could very easily claim that someone from the Obama campaign put it up, and many people would believe it.
I hope that video is ignored to death.
May 2, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Read the press release (linked above).
This is as intelligent, succint, and substantive argument for his candidacy as any I have seen (other than his 2002 speech against the war. Brilliant.
The gas tax debacle tells us virtually everything we need to know about the character of these two would be political leaders.
Great stuff. Read.
May 3, 2008 12:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree.
May 3, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think the video's being fraudulent is probably a decent reason on its face for not covering it, no?
May 3, 2008 1:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
And Josh....don't be giving me that look! It's the look I give my husband and my boys when they are trying to get over on me about something. My son calls it my Okie-Doke look...
*grin
May 3, 2008 2:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not suggesting you cover the video uncritically. But I am curious about what expert opinions are about it, whether it's doctored or not. Also, who put it out there?
But my biggest beef was not covering the press conference.
May 3, 2008 2:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. If it was faked, it is not worth covering.
But why has the thread on Blumenthal's campaign to spread anti-Obama stuff using the tactics used against the Clintons (targeting influentials in the media) gone missing as of last night? That seems not only true, incredibly ironic and at least moderately newsworthy. I can't find it using the search, and it was getting a lot of attention. Did you have technical difficulties?
May 3, 2008 11:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
I just witnessed the electric atmosphere surrounding our next POTUS. I went to see Barack tonight in Raleigh. There had to be between 10 and 12k in house. About 1/3 where Hillary supporters left over from The Jefferson Jackson Dinner. They seemed as excited as everyone else.
There was a truck there with dual large video screens showing Obama ads. I had seen scrolling ads, but this showed video while in motion.
Narrow win in NC and IN.
May 3, 2008 1:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Narrow in NC, really?
Why, so?
May 3, 2008 2:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have been a big fan of TPM since about the very beginning. I got hooked with the 2000 election theft and Josh's excellent coverage of it. He even emailed a few times and once sent me information on how to contact a Gore person so my son could get Gore to sign a Presdential Academic Excellence Award he received that had been signed by Bush. I remember him writing about his dissertation on early interactions between Native Americans and settlers in New England. (I remember that because I am Native American and was thrilled that my "blog hero" had an iterest in us Indians! *smile)
TPM has always been the first site I've gone to each day to find out what was really going on. But I must admit I am kind of sad that as an Obama supporter I am feeling kind of left out. I'd guess if somebody took time to do what the author of this diary did for the past few months they would find a definite pro-Hillary bias. I never thought I would see that kind of bias here. Especially since Hillary is being desrtructive to the Dems.
On the other hand, I was glad to see on the front page whre Josh writes that Josh is taking on McCain. And Josh still does not freak over every little rumor or news tidbit and run with it. if I read it here I can still assume it true. But I don't see the balance with Obama/ Hillary on the site any more. (I also do NOT think the stupid video should be covered.I watched it closely a couple times and it sound and looks to me like he says something like they are (must be?)shitting. Bury that thing-deep Dems!
Still, there are other things that seem to be given more prominence if they are positive for Hillary and negative for Obama. This is still my favorite site, but I am sad to say I feel like I have to look elsewhere for complete "Obama" coverage. I hesitate to even post this, but after over 7 years of reading I hope it is okay for me to express how I see things.
I would also like to say I am very proud of Josh Marshall and all that he has accomplished with this site. It really is amazing.
regards,
jenniestarrish
May 3, 2008 2:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Phoebe Fay, thanks for sharing that press conference video. I hadn't been aware of it, and it was refreshing to see Obama talking about the gas tax. My blood's been boiling over that issue (first thing in the campaign that's gotten to me that way).
May 3, 2008 3:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
The media is justifiably stuck on the "horse race" concept. I also believe that there are deeper issues at work.
Solomon and Chomsky nailed it years ago in their work "Manufacturing Consent." In order to be part of the media complex, you will be the target of advertising and flak (customer outrage). The truth is the ultimate casualty of this relationship.
TPM gets more eyeballs and ad revenue by playing into the horse race. Obama supporters and Hillary supporters will come here to vent, analyze, and snark. As long as the carnival continues, there is no reason for TPM or any other increasingly mainstream outlet to tell the customers that it is last call.
The bottom line is that the media is served if Hillary wins Indiana and Obama wins North Carolina... this continues the false tension of a horse race even though this outcome completely seals the legitimate nomination of Hillary Clinton for POTUS.
The fact is, Josh, Greg, Eric and others, that the biggest fraud being perpetrated on the Democratic Party is the very horse race the media has confabulated since Super Tuesday. You choose to continue this myth while holding to your so-called journalistic standards about the doctored video of Kantor. In Ethics 101, this is called hypocrisy... the only difference is that the horse race is a bigger lie with exponentially greater consequences... including (but not limited to) the continued redefinition of the political center in American life.
This continued rightward lurch of the political center has paved our current landscape. The unitary executive, the shadow boxing of a weakened Congress, the Corporatist Supreme Court giving greater civil liberties to a business collective than the individual citizen... these all spell EMPIRE. Worse yet, when politicans don the Ceasarian purple and hand out ducats to the plebes, it is the media that calls it vox populi instead of bread and circuses.
May 3, 2008 3:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just as an FYI, Josh, it may be that the "white ni**er" part of the video was doctored (it WOULD be good to hear what some technical folks say) but the comment about folks from IN being sh** was actually commented on in a WaPo review of the movie in '93 (indicating that people in IN were upset about it when the film originally came out--The War Room)...which was posted on some TPM thread yesterday. That part of the comment seems to be at least historically accurate, and, to some extent, interesting...at least as interesting to the folks in IN as some of the other videos floating around out there bloggesphere (sp?).
May 3, 2008 6:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's a very good intiative, Phoebe Fay. There's a diary today at DKos asking for help on ways to get the media to cover stories that are of particular interest to us.
May 3, 2008 7:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
"TPM has not posted anything relating to the Kantor video (which admittedly might not be legitimate, but will still echo across the campaign this weekend and potentially damage Clinton)."
This is an incredible specimen that I was able to excise from your highly recommended post. You write above that you realize that the Kantor video might not be legitimate but you wanted it reported anyway because, in your little echo chamber reality, you had the impression that Kantor's comments, true or not, would "still echo across the campaign this weekend and potentially damage Clinton".
In short, I do commend you for your candor. You openly state that you wanted something spread around relating to race, even if it ain't true, to hurt Hillary Clinton. And perhaps you still want done that even though the video was shown to have been doctored, and even though TPM took the extraordinary step of deleting at least two highly recommended posts solely designed to spread this lie, a lie which is yet another example about how zealots like you on both sides of this contest have made ugly use of the race card.
So, here you are, one of the most ardent and obnoxious of the Obama right or wrongers at the TPM Cafe, and you are openly complaining that TPM didn't facilitate your sleazy use of the race card, and your post is recommended by many of your like-minded ilk. Congratulations.
Now tell me this: what on earth does your conduct have to do with the compelling message of the Obama campaign? Your conduct is the antithesis of that message. . .and you are exposed. Yes, you are candid, but you are still stinky.
I'm glad your post is highly recommended. I want it to stay up. It should be studied by us so that we do not forget how low, how utterly low, some of the folks on both sides of this contest have gotten in this campaign.
May 3, 2008 9:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Do you need a fainting couch after that episode of the vapors?
May 3, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
No I am fully alert and quite pleased with the absolutely indisputable observations I have made. You can defend this poster if you'd like; you'd be right in there with the crowd. Vapors eh? That's pretty good.
May 3, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
bslev,
I just want to point out here that I've been ignoring that Kantor video, simply because the posts I'd seen about it were ridiculously over-the-top, and because I don't think that anything that may have happened during Bill Clinton's campaign should be assumed to be related to Hillary Clinton's.
However, until Josh addressed that issue directly in an unrelated thread, I had no idea that it was probably fraudulent. So while I understand the concern for not propagating a smear by covering at news, there is also value in debunking a fraud or smear campaign.
May 3, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
bslev, as I said to Josh above, I'm not implying the story should be reported uncritically. But the story is out there. It is circulating.
I have no ability to evaluate the truth of the video. I watched the clip, but I couldn't tell if that was what he was saying. I don't have especially good hearing to begin with, and the speakers attached to my computer are pretty chintzy. Plus, I have no expertise relating to video and audio and what would be involved in faking it.
Since I cannot evaluate the truth on my own, I have to rely on journalists to help me out. All I have is my own skepticism because the comment seemed over the top and a bit of a non sequitor. I would prefer facts from a source I trust, and the truth is, I do trust TPM. I wouldn't be here daily if I didn't.
May 3, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Could it just be that the news for Clinton is better lately than the news for Obama?
May 3, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, kind of like what a full moon does to the wolves of the world.
May 3, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
I was thinking this too, yesterday. Thanks for raising the question about the press release in your post. I concur with your sentiment.
And Bslev, your commitment to polarization of fellow Dems is consistent and sad, its justification here, again, comes up short.
May 3, 2008 1:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
That may not be as funny as you think...
May 3, 2008 2:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I noticed the same bias yesterday in the NYT--all the new political stories were about Hillary and nothing about Obama. Even silly stories like about her with the coffee, were reported in a fairly positive way (can you imagine how "elitist" Obama would have been labeled if he couldn't get coffee out of a service station machine?).
Personally, I really think this gas tax thing should be hammered by every responsible media source; it's just so indicative of the characters of the two candidates.
May 3, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
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