heh - So the "the Clintons" are our only other option other than McCain? No one else in this entire country is capible of fixing the Bush mess other than "the Clintons"?

By the way there was one Clinton on the ballots in '92 & '96 and there is a different Clinton on the ballot this year so Clinton supporters should chill out with the "the Clintons".

Does anyone see the similarity in GWB's strategies in Iraq and HRC's strategies for this campaign? I'll try and point out the similarities:

1. Both were arrogant enough to think that they will just walk over the competition.

2. Both had the unfounded confidence that once they beat the so called opposition they will be greeted with flowers, no matter what it takes to win.

3. Both did not do any grass root work to find out what the ground reality is.

4. Both were adamant that their strategy was sound.

5. Both never anticipated a long drawn out battle.

6. Both surround themselves with 'yes-men' and appoint incompetent loyal cronies to high ranking positions.

7. Both wildly underestimated costs and overspent their budgets.

8. Both are reluctant to change their strategy because that would be tantamount to accepting that there was/is something wrong with it in the first place.

Scary isn't it?

I think your premise is false. I strongly support Obama but have no issue supporting Hillary if she turns out to be th nominee, which I think is highly unlikely at this point. I do not know a single supporter of either democratic candidate who would now enthusiastically vote for the other, even after the media circus of the last 2 months. We know there is huge difference between Hillary and McCain.

Now, if Hillary wins the nomination through a superdelgate coup d'état, overruling the pledged delegates, and fighting some nuclear convention floor fight, I could see my two daughters (age 19 and 23) being less forgiving than I would be -- I think they would still vote for Hillary, but maybe not. And if I were African American, I might feel even more upset, since so much of the Clinton attack has been exploitive of his racial vulnerability, and a mirror of GOP talking points. But even those voting constituencies will vote for Hillary Clinton over John McCain. And my wife, who is as stong a Clinton supporter as I am an Obama supporter, will enthusiastically vote for Obama, as will every other Hillary supporter I know, and at least 10 different lifelong Republicans. Hillary is being pushed by Fox and the right wing media for a reason -- because if Obama is the nominee, McCain will lose by double digits.

Bottom line is that McCain sold his soul for the GOP nomination, and the democrats and independents know it. He has tepid support from republicans, hostility from the far right, has fosaken his reputation as a maverick to pursue Bush's domestic and foreign policy for a third Dubya term, and is ridiculously old and out of touch with the difficult realities that most families face. It won't sell this year -- the stakes are too high to make the decision based on who is more fun at a BBQ, or who is surrounded by scarier looking people. If the decision is based on merit, Obama will win in a walk. But Hillary will still enjoy my support if she is the nominee.