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The End Has Begun

A couple of days ago, I argued that after Tuesday, the race would essentially be over because there would no longer be a way for Clinton to win the popular vote, her only remaining plausible argument for superdelegates to vote for her.

I reran the numbers based on the tonight's results, which were substantially better for Obama than my conservative assumptions.Clinton would now have to convince at least 75% of the remaining superdelegates to vote for her in order to win the nomination. To win the popular vote, including Florida, she would need to win by average of 65% (a 20 point spread) in the remaining states, which is essentially impossible.

Meanwhile, the pundits have begun talking about the endgame even sooner than I anticipated...

CNN: Delegate counter: Can Obama be overtaken?
ABC: Hillary Squeaks Out Win in Indiana, But Will Her Campaign Stay Afloat?
NYT: Options Dwindling for Clinton
CBS: Analysis: Clinton Barely Hangs On
TPM: Is Hillary Running Out Of "Game Changers"?
FOX: Apocalyptic Sect Leader Arrested on Sex Charges


So allow me to reiterate, this will all be over soon.


Comments (228)

To win the popular vote, including Florida, she would need to win by average of 65% (a 20 point spread) in the remaining states, which is essentially impossible.

Sorry, that would be a 30 point spread, which is even more impossible. (Can impossible be a matter of degree?)

PS Thanks to am, drw3344, and jeff the lurker for showing up at the results part tonight.

at the results part tonight

At the results party. I give up. It's too late.

You can tell it's a real party when the Finnish media shows up.

Not to confuse anyone, but I changed my name here to a capital AM. I did this because when you wrote "Thanks to am, drw3344, and jeff the lurker" at first I was offended you hadn't thanked me. I hadn't seen the am, since it just looks like a word and not a name.

or too drunk.

Um, completely off subject but I just gotta say it -- Genghis, the fact that your shirt is changing colors is kinda freaking me out.

welcome to the party

It's giving me a migraine...

Degrees of impossibility... Why does that bring to mind Douglass Adams?

"What was the Sherlock Holmes principle? 'Once you have discounted the impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.'" [said Kate] "I reject that entirely," said Dirk sharply. "The impossible often has a kind of integrity to it which the merely improbable lacks."

-Douglas Adams, The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul (1988)

You have excellent taste in books.

In just four days it will be seven years since Douglas Adams died, all too prematurely. Authors should not be allowed to die without finishing their books first.

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Genghis:

What can I say? You were right. The media (or at least a substantial segment of it) appears willing to recognize mathematical realities. We'll see how well that holds up over the next week, as a contested WV campaign offers another stretch of exceptional ratings, but it's possible we've turned the corner here.

I do want to take issue with one element of your math, though. There are, according to DCW, 270.5 uncommitted superdelegates. About 20 of those are UADs from caucus states where the Obama-dominated convention will certainly pick his supporters - unlike primary states, there's no chance of surprise outcomes. DCW counts another half-dozen who've promised to support the pledged delegate leader. Than there are those (Donna Brazile, for example) who've made their choice perfectly clear, but prefer to remain neutral for now. Maybe another ten in that category. And finally, there've been a couple dozen Clinton supporters who've indicated that they won't vote against the pledged/popular leader, or perhaps not even against the pledged leader (Maria Cantwell, Elaine Kamarck, etc.)

My point is that it's not improbable - it's mathematically impossible - for Clinton to win the nomination. She can't afford any defections at all, but too many of her supporters have already made it clear that if she couldn't close the pledged delegate gap, they wouldn't be supporting her. With the defections taken into account, she needs to win all but a few dozen of the superdelegates, but more than that number are either (a) UADs going to Obama or (b) clearly committed to him.

It's worth noting that there were no superdelegates announced by the Obama campaign yesterday (although one in NC took the trouble to declare her support by herself). And, despite his sweeping victories, there hasn't been so much of a hint of further endorsements this morning. My guess is that the campaign will hold off for at least a few hours more, giving Hillary the chance to sit with her advisers, hear from party elders and supers, and withdraw with a measure of grace and dignity. But just as soon as she makes it clear she's going to fight, the Obama campaign is going to start rolling out superdelegates. And I suspect that, with yesterday's results in hand, a whole bunch of superdelegates are going to be suddenly prepared to go public with their support. Well before West Virginia votes, the nomination math won't require inferences.

Thanks fotw. Of course, I defer to you on the delegate math and hope to see a final footnote from you on the state of UADs before the race is wrapped up.

And I suspect that, with yesterday's results in hand, a whole bunch of superdelegates are going to be suddenly prepared to go public with their support. Well before West Virginia votes, the nomination math won't require inferences.

Me too.

If it's impossible or more impossible or even just impossibly improbable for Clinton mathematically, then Obama needs to call for seating the MI and FLA delegates now, right? The longer the DNC waits on this, the more voters in those states will feel slighted. If he's got it wrapped up, then there's no reason not to :)

Please also note that Yoda is an all knowing and all powerful Jedi Master who can predict election outcomes before they happen (or at least be damn close): http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/04/north-carolina-overview-of-the.php

Predict … or influence?

"This is not the candidate you're looking for…"

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I agree. Your candidate has won. Clinton will try to clear her campaign debt and play on through Kentucky using a unity against McCain theme.

Over the next several months Clinton will do her part to unify the party. If she does so, the least the Obama supporters can do is not blame her when he loses somewhere between Dukasis and McGovern.

I hope this means that you're also planning on making sure that your prediction fails to happen, right?

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Yes, I honestly hope that I'm wrong. I won't be here for the election. I'm going overseas for a year, so I won't be able to volunteer the way I always do.

I'll do something, though. There are a lot of American expats in the country I'm going to, so I'll work to get people to register and vote Democratic via absentee ballots.

Glad to hear it!

I really think your prediction is way off, but it's best to work under the assumption that it's not, in order to make sure that it is. (I think I just confused myself with that one!)

You forgot the most important part:

How was Revival?

Judging by Genghis' inability to write "party" (above), I'm gonna say it went well.

How was the turnout in SF? I lived there for many years.

Thanks for asking! I don't think I really promoted the SF event soon enough, so really it was just me and a couple friends I'd dragged along. But it was great, anyway! There's something about watching politics in a bar... I talked a stranger into voting in the GE, and there were plenty of people who just showed up by "accident" who were in good spirits about the whole thing. Didn't have anything near as fun as a round of Crown Royal, though. (Wonder how much of a bump Clinton's given Crown Royal?)

CaliforniaPaige, I am curious to hear your impressions of San Franciscan's and this primary. I was in the bay area for 12 years until last summer. The few people I've been keeping in touch with have been Obama supporters, but was that the overwhelming consensus or did Hillary have a lot of support too? When people talk about California going for Hillary, I tend to just blame it on southern california, but maybe I am jumping to conclusions. Go elitist San Franciscans!


Cheers to elitists all over the place!

Lots of Obama support in SF. Obama won in SF County, Alameda County, and a sizable smattering of other counties around the state -- though nothing further south than Santa Barbara. At this point, I only see Obama yard/window signs around, though for a while there, we had quite a few Ron Paul signs and a surprising number of Romney signs, too. In general, though, I think people around here are bored with the election and will gladly support the Democratic ticket.

Silicon Valley loves Obama.

It's not surprising as you will note how Obama truly "gets" the high-tech world. (Look how he used it to fund raise, for example.)


There is nothing more young and elitist than Silicon Valley. I say it out of love.

Representing southern California, I gotta say that practically everyone I know here (with two exceptions; a third, a low-information voter who voted for Clinton Feb. 5 because he perceived her to be more gay-friendly than Obama, defected in disgust at her race-baiting). I know that my circle of acquaintances isn't representative -- black people, lawyers and latte-sipping, Prius-driving liberal academics are heavily overrepresented -- but for what it's worth, I'm told that Hollywood/Los Feliz -- CD33 -- went more heavily for Obama than any other district in California. (Or was it just SoCal? I forget. Up too late last night listening to the results.)

Erm. I mean, "practically everybody I know here is an Obama supporter."

You're probably right about CD33 -- I spent probably 10 minutes looking for that CD-by-CD breakdown before replying to AM's question and unfortunately couldn't find it. The country-by-country one is way less interesting.

Depends what you mean by SoCal.

In much of LA County, people were a lot stronger for Hillary -- this especially included Asians and Latinos.

No one will breath a word about this, but race was clearly a factor. The only question is how much.

Interestingly, many of the cities around LA County that went for Hillary have high-salaries and nice cars... you know, the elites.

Obama barely campaigned here. And, like New Yorkers, many Californians who voted for Clinton on Feb. 5 have since suffered buyer's remorse. California will go for Obama in the GE. You can't possibly think that the GOP's immigrant-baiting will draw Asian-American and Latino/a votes.

Obama's supposed race problem with Asians and Latinos/as is overblown. As Latina/o commentator after Asian commentator kept pointing out, back in February, in response to the "those brown people are so racist" theme in the MSM, young Asian-Americans and Latinos went overwhelmingly for change, and Obama. Older immigrants went for name recognition, and Clinton. And, in several southwestern states (Arizona was one; don't remember the others), Latinas/os were more likely than whites to vote for Obama.

Obama barely campaigned here.

Correct.

And, like New Yorkers, many Californians who voted for Clinton on Feb. 5 have since suffered buyer's remorse.

Correct, I often make this point on TPM as well.

California will go for Obama in the GE.

I agree.

You can't possibly think that the GOP's immigrant-baiting will draw Asian-American and Latino/a votes.

Can't agree, that's too broad a statement.

Many of the Asians in SoCal are either very recent immigrants (Chinese, Korean), wealthy, or both. These groups tend to often be conservative. This is one of the reasons why the high-income people in many SoCal locals went for Hillary -- they saw her as the candidate of the old school.

And I agree about you can't lump all Latinos together: California broke differently than New Mexico.

However, it's not all kumbaya either. But as you say, the state will go for Obama most likely. Several local representatives from the GOP are beginning to feel heat. Some for the first time in years.

In the end, I think that's what the GOP fears so much in Obama -- his coattails are going to be very, very long mostly because he is getting out the vote. It wasn't Hillary that was organized enough on the ground to get out all those new voters.


I didn't promote mine either, except at TPM. Maybe there were just more New Yorkers desperate for a party. This one was smaller though. I'm glad that you had a good time.

I'm still disappointed in the TPMers though, on both sides of the country.

I just couldn't envision driving 3.5 hours to get home after a couple of 3 hours of sleep nights and having to get back to work in the morning.

Tuesdays are tough.

I'm going to try and get HillaryM to carpool. I'm just down the road in Monroe some days.

:)

Plus, she's rather cool.

The trouble is, we're almost out of primaries! So what other excuses might there be for celebration/commiseration? I mean, of the sort that can be planned well in advance.

I dunno about you, CP, but I don't need much of an excuse.

:D

How about June 3? That should be a day worth celebrating. Also, I hear that the Obama campaign is expecting to do better than predicted in Puerto Rico.

I know out here the campaign has been recruiting Boricuas and other Spanish speakers to phone Puerto Rico for two weeks now. And it probably won't be too hard to persuade people to fly out to PR to knock on doors and GOTV.

Er, ¡Dame cerveza!

Heh.

Bee, that's a very good point.

Smaller crowd, happier results. One more TPMer than last time, but I'm not sure that it counts because AM was present last time as well; she just wasn't a TPMer at that time.

Highlights included interviews with a reporter from Finnish television, a round of celebratory shots of Crown Royal, some weird small-world run-ins, and of course, Obama's speech.

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Genghis, your shirt is green!

P.S. Loved that Fox Headline.

Dude, it was over in March. All this has been media blather....

M

But, but, but...MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA! CHARGE!!

Genghis, you must have been part of a party tonight, eh? hee.

Apocalypse + sex charges = game-changer

apocalypse + sex charges = FOX

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Sooops! Shall I say magical? "Green" doesn't come close.

You deserve another recommend, just for the shirt.

P.S. Me (2d3sky) and "Ame Tani" are the same person. I am not tech savy enough to merge us (sigh).

As usual, Fox gets it right.

:D

Fascinated to see what comes this morning.

Disagreement welcome, but I see Senator Clinton's checklist thusly:


1) Win the presidency in 2008, if at all possible.
2) Failing #1, work to engender an environment in which I can win the presidency in 2012.

3) Failing #'s 1 and 2, work to build my legacy. Because by 2016 I'll be 69 and presumably faced with a sitting Democratic VP to run against (likely a younger woman) or an unknown Republican incumbent, and either way my chances don't look too good.

I suspect she has not completely given up hope for #1 (and won't until the moment Senator Obama is declared the nominee at the convention). However, she has understood for sometime this is not a likely outcome, and is somewhere between contingencies 2 and 3 at this point.

I am intrigued to see if she will risk an attempt to damage Obama to the point where he may actually lose the general, she can say "told you so", and ride in to victory after what is sure to be four disastrous years of the McCain administration. Surely she would not want to poison the well for herself in 2012, nor risk irreparable damage to her legacy. So I can't help wonder where she will draw the line as she navigates these seemingly treacherous waters.

I think it will be fascinating to watch, and that odds are better than average we will hold witness to a masterstroke of politicking scarcely seen before. Open your umbrellas.

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She won't even run in 2012. She knows that whoever wins this time is in for 8 years. It's almost statistically impossible that the country will be in worse shape in 2012, and an president following Bush will look like Einstein, Lincoln and Washington rolled into one.

She be almost 70 in 2016. Too old I think to run against McCain's VP.

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Genghis:

You and your shirt are probably getting your beauty rest after you long evening of partying. This loyal Hillary Clinton supporter never made it off of the couch once he got home, put the baby to bed, and started soaking in the results. It was a real fun night in my apartment as I'm sure you can imagine. I promise to try to make your next soiree. My wife got a charge out of the notion that I actually communicate with real, live people on here.

In any event, I once wrote on here, I think it was after Destor went over to Obama, that I would never announce my support for Senator Obama on here because I had come to disrespect and loathe so many posters, who had turned my support for Hillary Clinton into some kind of de facto support for racism, war, and dog-kicking. I still feel that way about lots of folks, and I don't forget that there are people on this progressive website who have called me a DINO (I didn't even know what the term meant until recently). For some, I understand things are said in a campaign; and then there are others who know who they are.

But I want you to know that you and Greg (Missouri voter) and a few others have come to TPM and have set an example for your peers and I have nothing but respect and admiration for you. And, so, while I will stick with Hillary Clinton for as long as she decides to stay in the race, and I will do so proudly, the handwriting is on the wall, and respectfully it is not just about the numbers. When folks like me get a feeling in the gut, that's how you know we are moving into another phase.

I hope to address things that trouble me, things I've learned about many of my brothers and sisters on the left of the American political scene (I'm talking about the folks who are the mirror image of the Rush Limbaugh dittoheads), that I have never in my 48 years been cognizant of. But now is not the time because I need to take a pause and reflect.

I am proud that, to my knowledge, I have gone through this whole campaign without ever publicly calling Barack Obama on trash. I have on occasion questioned his bona fides as a genuine non-political politician on more than one occasion, and I have challenged positions he has taken, but I have always made it clear that I do not hold the fact that he is a politician against him. If Hillary decides that enough is enough, I turn to Senator Obama and his campaign with a clear conscience, and with my credibility as a true and loyal Democrat intact.

I have always said that I will support the Democratic nominee with vigor and I am so proud that I have never moved from that position. I stand by that pledge and do so with my head held high. I am not and have never been unaware of the positives underlying Senator Obama's campaign. As you know, my three voting age kids are avid Obama supporters and their enthusiasm would make any parent proud (even my 17-month old, who is one of those kids who had just come into the world when this campaign started, will come to know Obama). But unlike folks who have come to Obama because their kids convinced them to do so, this proud Dad will come to the dance on his own. And I will dance when I get there, I promise.

In unity,

Bruce

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Now that's a concession speech. Nicely put.

As I'm used to being called the turd in the punchbowl, I have a couple of comments that are a reality check:

1) If Obama's won, he's going to be representing the whole Democratic party now. Even those detached, disposable people who voted for Hillary, even old people, rednecks, old women, etc. His demographics to me don't show an improvement in overall electability - they show an increased consolidation of his black base to now over 90% in both of the states yesterday. There's quite a lot of work to be done to reconcile this situation. Likely a Hillary VP slot would be the easiest, safest way to ensure this, though it would require Obama fans to do some teeth gritting. Perhaps after the victory celebration they can face up to this.

2) Second is the negativity. My post on Michelle's speech on C-Span is a reality check - this isn't an Audacity of Hope speech - it's a bummer. Forget Hillary. It's a bummer. Republicans can pick this apart and use it a million ways. No good. As I answered in a response, I don't think it's endemic to Michelle's personality, even though it's a common tone in black communities. A good speech writer and speaking coach can give her a makeover no problem. But someone on the Democrat's side has to notice and think it's a problem. Because the Republicans have noticed over and over, and it'll be one of the tiers of their attacks if it's not dealt with.

Okay, sorry about the punch - maybe they can bring out a new bowl. By the way, good job.

Chimpo. My main concern is that you would leave TPM because it would be incredibly boring without you.

It will be interesting to see what happens at TPM? Yes? Everyone making nicey-nice.

She tried that already. Lasted about half a day.

Gheghis. How will you keep up energy and interest at TPM? Without controversy, and no McCain posters likely, how does that happen?

Obama people are going to calm down. Clinton people won't have much energy.

You can see, in a way, why the press had such an interest in the continuing drama.

Oh there will be much outraged McCain bashing. And people complaining about the quality of the posts. And rickrolling. And, occasionally, interesting posts about particle accelerators.

But, yeah, it's been fun, and after it's finished, we'll probably miss the roly-poly primary that we couldn't wait to end.

And don't call me Gheghis.

Dude. I can't spell. But in my real life, I took a look at the advertising rates on TPM. The site thrives on the free-for-all
wild west atmosphere among (mostly) intelligent people.

As someone who buys some books seen in the right panel, and, even thought about advertising here, the challenge will be keeping your demographic of highly committed, young thinking (if not as young as their avatars suggests), politically involved people.

My honest suggestion is that you really make an effort to include as many new people as you can, and don't scare them off with too much insider stuff. Also, help TPM realize that daily postings that are recommended by friends make the site seem more vigorous than it actually is. Go to a three-day cycle.

Good luck shirt.


I got interested in TPM when I was doing some research on citjour in the Middle East for Net Zero and I noticed Juan Cole plugging TPM as Progressive Potitics, elegantly argued. When I realized my personal diary had become almost exclusively about the campaign, I decided to post at TPM instead.

I think the reader blogs are an extension of Marshall's philosophy of enrolling readers in the process. Posting DOJ memos and asking readers to search through them for muck, for example. The blogs extend the opinion side of TPM.

That some readers would choose to use the reader blog space for performance art and satire instead of straightforward political comment is probably something Marshall, who seems a little square and uptight, never contemplated.

Even with our man, Obama, taking the nomination, I don't think we'll all be happy with how he's handling McCain 24-7. I think there will be much to debate in the coming months.

Um, Des is a he.

He said so. Just concerned with women's rights. That's a good thing.

It has been curious to me that being concerned with women's rights and overt sexism got me automatically labelled a she, but on the Internet nobody knows you're an androgynous warthog from outer space. Yes, I came back in time too, but a different wave from Billy, I was just here on a tourist cruise and we got knocked of course in the Kuiper Belt. Talk about backwoods charm...

Des, I hope you're not going anywhere.

I concur with Hilary.

You and Billy, really make the board.

:D

Actually, I used to think that you were a he, but then you said something in your goodbye speech that made me think that you were a she but that people thought that you were a he. And I used to think that gasket was a he, but now I think she's a she. And I thought that mageduley was a he, but apparently, she's a she too.

Fuck it all, I'm calling people whatever gender I feel like. If they don't have a gendered name or avatar, they take whatever they get.

Met her in a bar down in old Soho
Where they drink champagne and it tastes just like cherry cola. C-O-L-A cola.

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Even more concrete a reality check is to notice the vote rigging in Indiana. Lake County is well known for fraudulent elections. People who know Indiana politics expected Obama to lose by a much higher margin for many compelling reasons: all the Hispanics who live in Lake County, for one reason.

Ready, you are grasping. For one thing, Lake county is adjacent to the south side of Chicago. In Obama's senate race he carried the Latino vote by 70%. Second, there is solid evidence from the exit polls that Operation Chaos had a distinct impact. Third, Obama headquarters is less than 1 hour away. If you thought the organization around the country was impressive, just imagine the coalition created by IL Obama supporters that only need to drive a short hop to canvass.

The straws you are grasping are getting mighty thin.

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I'm not grasping, mageduley. I think Clinton will concede today. But I also think the Republicans manipulated the Dem nomination, as I try to clarify here.

I wish you could give me the benefit of the doubt that I want a Democrat in the White House before you presume to know that I am grasping.

Ready,
I disagree with your premise that because Hillary was favored to win, that the apparent vote rigging would necessarily mean that the vote would have been larger for Clinton.

Again for the reasons I stated above. There is absolutely no evidence that Hillary would have carried the Hispanic vote. Although her appeal has been shown in this area around the country, Obama has bonafides in this demographic in the area we speak of. Therefore, while I don't doubt there was something fishy going on, I personally think, had those irregularities not happened, the win would have gone to Obama.

But that is hardly what needs to be argued here. The fact of the matter is, Obama erased Hillary's PA win. He leads in every metric imaginable. It is time to stop now. It is time to take on the republicans that have destroyed our country.

I wish more Clinton supporters would see that writing on the wall. The primary has been long enough. Let us end it here and get behind the Dem to win the White House.

Give it up, blow, if the 8 rejected nuns had been black men, it'd be hot discussion, but today it will be ignored to instead focus on the Limbaugh narrative. At least it's not about vote stealing & recounts as with New Hampshire. I don't think I have the stomach for that.

How is this meaningfully different from the nonsense about electronic vs paper ballots that ensued post-NH? I am trying to give readytoblowagasket a fair reading here, but his case is very flimsy ("some guy on the internet said..." is hardly a strong argument for so serious a charge). Given that I recall that you were every bit as impatient with the conspiracy theories that took root around these parts in the wake of New Hampshire as I was, I am a mite disappointed to see you indulge them when they blow in the opposite direction later on.

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Greg, I have several comments on another thread regarding the delayed Lake County vote results in Indiana. Can you come over there so I don't have to repeat everything on this thread? Granted, it's a piecemeal explanation (you would have to do a search for my answers throughout the thread), but it's the best I can offer right now. This thread is not condusive to that conversation.

Anyway, I started doing some research about Indiana after watching Jeffrey Toobin, John King, and others sort of freak out on CNN last night.

I was referring to specifically to 8 or so old nuns who were turned away for lack of proper ID. I don't know how the overall score is in terms of old people rejected at the polls vs. minorities rejected at the polls. People seemed worry the day before yesterday; today it seems forgotten.

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Rage on gasket! Do not go gently into the light..

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Don't worry, I won't go gently!

Do you think that Sen Clinton would actually accept the VP slot if offered? I can see the sense of your point (my teeth would be among those that would need to be kept from grinding, but I am prepared to deal with that in light of the good cause involved), but I guess that it is not really clear to me that Sen Clinton would want the #2 post. For a nobody like Dan Quayle, being named VP represents a real promotion; for a woman as obviously talented, intelligent and ambitious as Sen Clinton, however, it is hard for me to think that the vice-presidency would not amount to simply a case of hiding her light under a bushel basket. "Senator from New York" is a much bigger stage on which to shine than "Vice President."

Then again, after the Bush administration "Vice President" means a hell of a lot more than it used to.

Great comment Bruce. I am sure with people like you and one_wilson, dedicated democrats to be sure, we will storm the White House in November.

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Thank you for that post, Bruce.

" When folks like me get a feeling in the gut, that's how you know we are moving into another phase." That's a rough feeling - I remember having it at some point during the evening on Nov. 2, 2004 and it still aches on rainy days, so to speak. I sincerely hope that Sen. Obama makes the future months easier for you than GWB ever did for me. I'm confident that he will.

It's still going to be a tough battle and Sen. Clinton has a very big challenge in front of her: conceding in a way that both retains her dignity (what Penn left her, that is!) and instead of further dividing the party starts the healing. She can earn the respect of many of us, who were so disillusioned earlier on, if she manages that. We know it's going to be a harder, against-character challenge for her. I'm hoping some of the surprising, against-what-we-thought-was-her-character talents she's shown in the Senate come to the fore.

And now the anxieties about November begin ... well, maybe in a few days! Glad many of us who were supporting different candidates can be sharing those together.

From WaPo:

Barack Obama moved one step closer to complete domination of the internet with the heartfelt, if tepid, concession of longtime supporter, bslev. While he plans to stick with Clinton as long as she stays in the face, bslev declared that "the handwriting is on the wall". His speech was welcomed by Obama supporters FlyOnTheWall, mageduley, Elizabeth2, and the colorfully-collared Genghis. While Genghis had predicted that we would soon see pundits using the cliche, "writing on the wall," he "didn't expect bslev to be the first."
bslev's concession, if indeed it is a concession, would bring the total number of Obama-supporting bloggers to 6,339,223 to Clinton's 12. While economists and other people who know how to count have argued that these odds are insurmountable, Clinton has vowed to fight on, declaring that bslev is a "gutless woos". While amateur bloggers have absolutely no influence on the primary, some speculate that someone, somewhere will read what they have to say.

Supreme snark. Rock on!

But seriously, Bruce, thank you for the great post. The feeling is mutual. Like any social organization, TPM is multifaceted, but I like to think that Josh's example of objectivity and good sense attracts an above-average crowd, and members like you are one of the things that I appreciate most about TPM. (Though it's fun to bash gotalife too.)

PS What's a DINO?

PPS Sorry to have missed you last night. I may do another one on May 20th, depending on the state of the race and my mood. But regardless, you should definitely come to the fundraiser on June 14th (if you can bring yourself to donate to Obama by that point). It's promising to be a fun loft party in DUMBO.

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Thanks Genghis. I appreciate both the snark and the kind words. Truth be told, I do feel like a total woos!!! I will be on the left coast on May 20 so I won't make that one but I have the feeling that I will be available for the June 14 fundraiser. Remember, we are moving into the general election season, so you need to brush up on things such as knowing immediately what holiday falls on June 14. . . think _____ pin! :)

Head pin?

It's Bowling Day?

Hey, Flag Day was selected on purpose. As a particularly appropriate tribute.

Do you announce said parties/fundraisers--location, time, etc.? Are they open to the general TPM readership? I live in DUMBO and might be interested.

We haven't announced any details yet, but the NY one will definitely be open. Join TPM-aholics at my.barackobama.com, and you'll be sure to get the invitation. You can also add me as a friend there.

Also, we're still looking for people to host friends in other cities and join the online Q&A with a member of the Obama campaign, so please contact me at my.barackobama.com if you'd like to participate.