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That's it. F**k it.

I'm all for a united Democratic Party.  I've been pushing for it for some time now.  I am, however, through tiptoeing around the disgusting hatred that comes out of the likes of some "Hillary supporters."  I put it in quotation marks because I don't think they really do support Hillary.  I don't know what their schtick is, I don't care.  Ignorance must be confronted with reality.  Bullshit must be confronted with truth.  I cannot see it any other way. 

I was at the Colorado Democratic Convention this past weekend and I had many wonderful conversations with Hillary supporters.  The theme of the weekend was unity.  No question.  McAuliffe was there and he spoke about it.  Everyone did.  Democrats, whether supporting Clinton or Obama, need to stand united not only behind the nominee, but also in opposition of those that would degrade this process and this dialogue.

Some of the best people I've ever met are supporting Obama, some are supporting Clinton.  If I hear about one person who is really going to vote against the supporters of another candidate rather than vote for the issues they support, I think I might actually reach through and punch them in their very own face.  No more of it.

Vote for a better America.  Vote for a better world.  Vote for peace, vote for health care, vote for education.


Comments (126)

Anyone reading this, I should admit that I wrote this in a rather irritated state. I'd just come across a few comments that directly insulted Obama supporters across the board. This is a them among these comments that has been in a crescendo lately and I have to say, I do find them rather baffling.

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you get upset about some critical comments about obama when this blog is replete with one slander after another about how corrupt, vile, amoral, you name it they have been called it, and you go bonkers over a few critical comments?

you are way too sensitive. those who live in glass houses shouldnt

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Yes, most Hillary supporters are reasonable people and will support the eventual nominee. Most people participating here in good faith are reasonable. And most readers here are for Obama, as makes sense for his demographics, which is especially favorable among high information voters.

You should realize, as should everyone, online there are a lot of kids, trolls, and the mentally ill. Especially there are a lot of Republican trolls with seething inferiority complexes and a desire to irritate others.

Limbaugh told the Limbots to impersonate Hillary supporters. For years the wingnut sites such as Free Republic, Little Green Footbals, etc have actually encouraged members to troll other sites and pretend to be Hillary supporters. Read the comments on these sites and it's clear their typical reader makes Ann Coulter appear only half as psychotic by comparison.

You have to understand the fans of Limbaugh and these winger sites are the dregs of humanity and it's their attempt at revenge for being stuck in the ass-crack of America. It's Archie Bunker on the internet, only less classy, less worldly, and less educated.

Don't mistake them for real Hillary supporters, or even real Republicans for that matter.

This post was like a roll call for some of our worst trolls. I agree that these are not actually Hillary supporters. They just come here to grab some negative attention. The solution: ignore.

Well, there is no edit function, so before you talk about hitting people you might try some deep breaths. You came across as violent.

Deep breaths are a good thing. I'm not a violent man. Upon rereading, I did find some irony in talking of hitting people and then voting for peace.

On a separate note, I've come to appreciate your voice 'round here, Billy.

"Violent"? If you thought that, you've never seen violence, guy. I agree that he seemed pissed, but get a grip, Billy.

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Billy is just concern trolling.

It's only a little bit ironic that the Obama supporters who were screaming "anyone but Shrillary" are suddenly looking for love from Clinton supporters. Victory within reach, to quote dear leader.

What's more ironic that "party unity" coming from Obama supporters is nothing but a fresh talking point in their strategy: push her out, then shame her supporters into backing him.

Obama is not Jesus. This country will be fine with President McCain. The Democratic Congress will be strong enough to deal with him, if the so-called netroots are worth their salt.

So, punch air all you want, Obama lost my trust and my vote.

While I respectfully disagree, I'm glad you're willing to address the issue with civility, a civility I do occasionally lack. What's up with your Barack Lincoln, by the way?

And in our defense, by the way, had Hillary come out on top, it's the Hillary supporters that'd be calling for party unity with loud voices. Many of them are, even as it is. And what action did Obama take that lost your trust in him? I'm a skeptical man, an open-minded man, and a rational man. He's not my messiah. I don't pray to him at night. I just think he's the best guy applying for the job at the moment.

No way. If we win, we're going to run you Obamanauts off. :)

It's time I should be honest... If Hillary wins the nomination, I just don't know if I can stand to vote for her in November... McCain's not quite my cup of tea, either. Guess I'm pullin' for Nader in '08er!

Yikes, just kidding. That felt gross.

I know. But if you don't believe he cost Gore the Presidency in 2000, Nader is fun. He's a bright guy, but where will they find a debate venue large enough to hold his ego?

He's an incredibly bright guy that did wonderful work 30 years ago that, yes, has given him an ego the size of a Texas testicle. He is informed, though. I saw him speak in person and though the tone of his voice starts to sound like speakers with no input turned way up after a while, he does know his shit.

And I don't believe he cost Gore the election. I think without Nader in the race, there still would've been a dubious Bush 'victory' in Florida. What a shitty night that was...

European countries manage to have 4 or 5 parties and don't seem to run into problems. If Gore when asked in a debate what he had to say to America's hadn't talked about Social Security and prescription benefits, he might have had another million votes. If progressives hadn't endlessly trashed him for his wardrobe and not being Bill Bradley, he might have had 2 million more votes. If the media hadn't had a field day making up shit about him, he likely would have had 5 million more votes. Putting it all on the shoulders of Nader is a bit daft. Nader was just pushing his agenda - kinda like Hillary is now, except she's a lot stronger.

Proportional Representation makes four or five parties possible. In our zero-sum system it just doesn't work very well.

that was "to America's youth" when he talked about SS & prescription drug benefits.

If she were just pushing an agenda or advocating for herself she would be getting few complaints. It is the outright lies she is pushing now that make her loss seem iligitimate that are the problem.

As one who has appealed for party unity, I've never screamed about Shrillary, sought your affection, or tried to shame you.

I have only ONE beef with you. You pretend to want a Democrat named Hillary in the White House. But you would support a Republican if you can't have your way. You're a f*cking baby or a GOP troll. Same thing.

I want to have a capable president in the White House. To me that trumpets ideology.

And I think Obama is the least capable of the three candidates. Any doubts i might have had in the beginning have been erased by now.

If you want to shame me or scare me or others like me into backing Obama, it just won't work. Obama would call that hoodwinking and fear-mongering.

I'm not going to shame you into it. I'm not going to guilt you into it. I have all the confidence in the world that Obama will triumph in November, even absent your vote. I'll condemn anyone I see trying to shame anyone into anything.

I will point out, though, that I think you meant "trump." In fairness, in my first comment I wrote "them" instead of "theme." We're all guilty.

I do have one rather straightforward question, though. What erased that doubt in your mind about Obama's capabilities. He's run an incredibly good campaign. Clinton ran what I can only call a pretty poorly-run campaign. McCain hasn't had to run much of anything yet, though he certainly is exhibiting how little he knows what he's talking about. Please just substantiate your perspective and I'll let it drop.

How about "Yes WE CAN (convince Hillary fans to vote for Obama"

Nattering nabobs of negativity posing as the hope crowd?

How's Obama going to pass health care if he can't get past entrenched special interests?

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No one wants to shame you into thinking McCain will keep troops Iraq until the last Arab that hates America is dead or changes his mind. If you think that's "fine", who are Obama supprters to tell you to be ashamed? Anyway, this election isn't about the troops. As all good democrats know, it's about proving that Obama is a faliure.

You can't divorce ability from ideology. Given the choice between an inept politician unable to enact bad policies, and an apt politician able to enact bad policies, I'd take the inept one. If one assumes, as you do, that Obama's inept, it'd be better to have an inept politician unable to enact good policies, then an apt politician able to enact bad policies.

I really don't understand how people can't see this. Not doing anything is better than doing bad things. (Don't get me wrong, I think Obama will be able to do good things and not just do nothing. However, even if I thought he couldn't get anything accomplished, I'd be sure that'd be better than McCain getting bad things accomplished.)

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??? Oh I get it. You're doing a takeoff on the Rumsfeld "known unknowns" bit. I love that one! Really, though, if there was a way know that an enacted policy would be 'bad' BEFORE it was enacted then what I think may be your point would be totally valid!!

I think there is a pretty good evidence a policy will be bad well before it is enacted, but only if the politicians actually read the case studies they ask for, instead of being "briefed" on the broad strokes. Maybe we should enact fewer policies and spend more time on each one.

To me that trumpets ideology.

You meant to say "To me that TRUMPS ideology."

Instead, you just described what you are doing.

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To say Obama is the least capable of the three is to wilfully ignore his record. Who personally persuaded every Republican as well as every Democrat to vote for reforming the rules of evidence in murder cases in Illinois, over the staunch opposition of Governor Blagojevich, in order to prevent a repeat of the pattern we had of cops torturing innocents into confesssing? Obama, that's who. Who has sponsored and passed more legislation in the US Senate? Hillary, or Obama? Obama, that's who. Hillary's legislative record is largely one of ceremonial legislation, and her campaign management has been second rate, and then there was the whole health care failure in which she went out of her way to leave Congressional Democrats in the lurch with her secrecy and her refusal to work even with Hill allies. Those aren't signs of a capable person. Those are the warning signs of a failed presidency.

What, pray tell, has led you to believe Obama is not capable, Lalo? His fundraising? His ability to harness the Internet? His perfect political pitch? His smoothly run campaign? His speaking abilities?
What has led you to believe Hillary would be capable? Her debt? Her schizophrenic messaging? Her lack of a post-Super Tuesday plan? Her campaign's infighting? Her inability to control Bill's mouth? Her ability to squander the gold-standard brand in Democratic politics to a newbie whose middle name is HUSSEIN?
Please Lalo, enlighten this foolish Obama follower to Hillary's many capabilities that are apparently visible to those with your perceptive analytical abilities.

I have only ONE beef with you. You pretend to want a Democrat named Hillary in the White House. But you would support a Republican if you can't have your way. You're a f*cking baby or a GOP troll. Same thing.

True shit!

No, you only compared President Clinton and Senator Clinton to herpes.

Classy you fucking nitwit

This country will be fine with President McCain.

Gee, what a Republican thing for a Democrat to say. A little confused are we?

That's what I'm sayin'. These are Clinton supporters? They seem to have gotten what Clinton stands for really really wrong.

I do not believe they are Clinton supporters. I'm of the mind that these are Republican trolls.

I think they got what Clinton stands for dead on the mark...

This country will be fine with President McCain.

This comment just demonstrates how much residual love there is for "McCain the maverick" -- a brand that has been built up over many years. Without some sustained focus on who McCain is and what he really stands for, he will be tough to beat in November. And sorry Hillary fans, that means she needs to get out of this race now and start to undo the damage she's caused by elevating McCain at the expense of Obama.

Desperation is the mother of deceit...

The R's around here pose as Hillary supporters, and they slip up all the time and throw their Johnnyisms into their subtle words.

The willingness of these trolls to pose as Democrats just reveals their pathological roots, they are so used to deception, they are also so usd to self-justification, and they obvioulsy get a kick out of our frustrations.

From what I have seen on the ground canvassing for Obama, just about every single sincere Hillary supporter and Obama supporter is willing to vote for the other, and it is only in these last weeks that Hillary's Bush-like numbers games has pushed sincere Obama supporters away.

But after close scrutiny, most of those wh claim they would vote for McCain if Hillary doesn't get the nom, are planning to vote for McCain from the start.

They are simply so bereft of honor, they think posing as something they aren't is justified by their necessity.

Lawlessness, the abject contempt for any semblance of personal integrity, runs deep in the republican brand... right down to the trolls who pose here as Democrats.

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Please, people. "lalo" is a troll, just like gotalife. He is either dirt stupid or being deliberately provocative. In either case, you're wasting bandwidth trying to convince them of the reasonableness of you position or the unreasonableness of theirs. Commenters like lalo only deserve your derision and abuse. Heap it upon them freely.

I don't think they're in love with McCain the Maverick. I think they're just bitter, and the grim satisfaction they'll be able to realize should Obama lose is all that's sustaining them right now. They are very small minded.

I, Hillary Clinton, have been lost to the Democratic party forever.*

Leading the Stovepipe Hat vote!
Leading for the vote of Senator John McCain!
Leading you all!

Much Love,
Hillary.


* Claims or supposed positions leaving the Democratic party are subject to Super Delegate voting. If I'm the nominee, I'll come back. I promise. But otherwise, I'm out! So you'd better nominate me. Or else. But I'll come back if you do. But if you don't... whoa-hoa... look out! Republicans, here I come! So clearly I'm the stronger candidate for John McCain's vote. Me! Me! ME!

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Why, specifically, did he lose your trust?

If Lalo chose to answer that honestly, no doubt the answer would be that he's not a Republican.

But I wouldn't expect that level of honesty.

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ANYONE WHO THINKS OR SAYS

"This country will be fine with President McCain."

IMHO

is a traitor to our great nation. The party that illegally seized power and stole the 2004 election with clear vote manipulation are arch criminals. They have committed war crimes. They must be held to account.

Anyone espousing anything short of full support for the eventual Democratic nominee is a troll, a fool or seriously misguided. We have but this one chance to

Take Our Country Back.

Dude there was loaves of bread and fish in baskets in Oregan last weekend . . .

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OK with McCain and a Democratic Senate? NOT!!

Two words: Supreme Court. One of the good guys (Stevens) is really old, and who's to say that one or more out of Souter, Ginsburg, and Breyer might be ready to, or need to, retire? With Kennedy and Scalis the next most likely to leave, based on time, we need Democratic appointees for a change. The Senate at best can block a truly "out there" appointee, but they can't make McCain appoint a progressive, and I think the days of a progressive "sneaking through", like Souter, are long gone.

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Quit whining. If you won you should be happy. I've never seen such a bunch of whiners as Obamaistas.

I pointed out the irony of my violent notions followed by a call to peace. Now I'm pointing out the irony of whining... about whining. I don't consider anything I say to be whining, but what whiner does, I suppose?

Certainly if you were to constantly bring up your thoughts on the balance of media coverage, and how it is seemingly biased toward your opponent, you wouldn't consider that whining. Who else might, though?

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But according to you he is the Nominee? what more do you need? Why keep writing things to trash Clinton and her supporters? Why not write posts about what he supposedly do when he wins the Election and becomes President? Foreign Policy, Monetary Policy, Energy Policy?

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I bet if Hillary ran on those issues, she'd be the nominee. Instead it was always about Obama and how he wasn't an elite candidate like her and mccain. Woulda been interesting to hear her talk about real issues instead of all the "shame on you, boyrack" jazz. I still remember the days when she used to talk about policy and stuff, she was always so inspiring. But all that republican-style mud slinging sure got her close, I'll give her that!!

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I call bullshit on that. She ran on all those issues. If you somehow didn't want to hear her that was not in her control.

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Well, alright then I stand corrected. She ran (and lost) on the issues. But seriously, she was an OUTSTANDING republican-style mud slinger. Probably the best democrat to ever sling republican-style mud at another democrat. Remember how impressed FOX was with her (and she with them)? The lady would have made an AWESOME candidate back when how well you slung republican-style mud was what people looked for in a political candidate!!

"She ran (and lost) on the issues."

Way to turn the tables, but it won't do any good, we aren't really arguing with a Democrat.

I think Louisvilles' really a Republican trying to divide our party.

Like the rest of the fakies, "he" pretends to support Hillary so they can worm their way into the conversaton without detection, then constantly pose negatives and impossible scenarios.

The more I read the regulars, the more I don't believe most of them are Dems, they are just shameless republicans posing as Dems.

Foreign Policy, Monetary Policy, Energy Policy?

Yup, Senator Clinton did run on all of those issues. Here's why she lost:

Foreign policy: AUMF, Kyl-Lieberman, Obliterate Iran.

Energy policy: Pushing a gas tax holiday so people can keep consuming at the suicidal rate we are while simultaneously dumping gallons of dead dinosaurs into a HUGE f-250 truck.

Monetary Policy: Her campaign has been in the red for months, and she's amassed a considerable string of bad debts across the nation she's supposed to be leading out of the worst financial crisis in generations.

I think we've heard Senator Clinton loud and clear.

According to me, he is the nominee. According to anyone with third grade math skills, too.

Aside from that last sentence, I've been very kind to Clinton and her supporters. I fail to see why you always need to play the victim here. None of us are really victims. We had two great candidates go through an excellent and exciting primary, the likes of which we haven't seen in a long long time, if ever. One of those great candidates ended up on top and we can all rally around him leading up to November. See? Everybody wins.

When, exactly, do I attack anyone here, aside from some rovin' trolls that are far from representative of Clinton's constituency, who I find quite decent and respectable?

Quit whining. If you won you should be happy. I've never seen such a bunch of whiners as Obamaistas.
Obama has won.

Clinton won't admit this basic truth.

Whining has nothing to do with it.

Quit whining. If you won you should be happy. I've never seen such a bunch of whiners as Obamaistas.
Obama has won.

Clinton won't admit this basic truth.

Whining has nothing to do with it.

Louisville, your post sounds remarkably like a whine here...

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You win the Ironic Comment Award! Congratulations!

Glad to know I'm not the only one so fed up he's using expletives. Or am I? ...I guess I am in the sense that there's others like me. But still, it's unfortunate that some of us have gotten to that point at all.

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Please blow it out your ass. If someone's use of expletives is your biggest criticism, then you're not paying attention to what's happening to our country.


Can we not just pretend we're all adults here? A little rough language is the least of our concerns. There is that whole Iraq war thing, as well as a serious loss of purchasing power while oil, eggs and milk all reached new all-time record highs, plus the very real possibility that the current administration will try to push us into armed conflict with Iran. Remember, this is the most powerful executive at least since Lincoln--probably ever. All they need to do is go into Iran under ANY pretense whatsoever, and fire a shot at a government official in broad daylight. Far from impossible. Not even that unlikely.

Then there is the issue of unity. I'm not that worried about the Dems this season either, but we must be mindful of those who would attempt to divide us. That is the most powerful strategy the Repubs have. The intelligent among them will do anything and everything to divide us.

Let us take a lesson from the Repubs this season: no matter what koksucker they nominate, they band together all their energy and efforts to get his old, white balls in office. Let's see if we can follow their example in that regard.

BTW, whatever happened to that bin Laden guy?

ARGH!

AVAST YE WUSSY WHO COULDN'T SPELL A 4 LETTER WORD!

NOW COME THROUGH ME SCREEN AND SWIPE AT ME
YE HAND IT WILL BE LOST!
I'VE GOT THE DOLDRUMS, DEEP AT SEA
SO BORED, I READ YOUR POST

IF YOU WANT TO BE A PIRATE, YOU HAVE TO SWEAR LIKE ONE! HERE'S A 4 LETTER WORD: SOCIALISM!

BRING BACK THE COPORATE 1990S WITH WENCH HILLARY!

ACQUIRE! MERGE! MARAUD! DILUTE! DILUTE!

ARGH!

HERE'S A 4 LETTER WORD: SOCIALISM!

Fuckin' a.

Priceless, Pirate Peet. Muchos love.

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I think I might actually reach through and punch them in their very own face. No more of it.

You're disobeying your leader's orders. Keep it up and you'll drummed out of Jonestown after the show trial.

My leader's orders? Jonestown? Oh my...

It ain't Hillary supporters I'm complaining about. It's you.

Constantinople is a great example of the new Republican creed "If you can't beat 'em, call 'em a cult..." because they have no intention of joining us.

The best way to turn your victorious adversaries into something you can wrap your pea-brains around its to to compare them to losers...

Seth, I feel you, honey. I agree with the frustration you expressed, and I agree that your post was a little ironic near the end. I love the fact that you read it over again and laughed at that irony.

It's hard, sometimes, to sit back and take a deep breath and remember that things are looking really, really good for the Democratic party this year. The MSM is absolutely loving the fact that it's dragging on and they can stir sh*t up and get more viewers than usual by doing so, and it affects us all, it does.

I'm glad you got your feelings out and I'm glad you posted, because it's fun to see all our familiar Clinton supporters jump on you so quickly.

They're getting their frustrations out, too.

See?

I know it, girl. I'm not worried about November in the least, with or without the trolls. I just, rather awkwardly, need to see an end to the negativity. The more we engage them, I think, the less they'll be able to continue their line of attack.

As I say, I was at the Colorado Democratic Convention (ironically, my hotel was kitty-corner from Focus on the Family in Colorado Springs... another post, another time). The energy was palpable. Everyone was getting along. It was a fairly accurate picture, I think, of the Democratic Party as a whole right now. The worst thing I was the Obama supporters chanting Obama's name after McAuliffe cited the popular vote count that favors Clinton (with a fair smattering of boos). Ah well.

So it's a tiny minority I'm cursing under my breath right now. A minority, I'll freely admit, I'm more than happy to marginalize at the moment, though not without whining about them a little first.

Hey Seth. I was there too. Jefferson County. It was wild to see 10,000 Democrats gathered in one place. Larger group of delegates than the National Convention will have.

I've been meaning to write something up about it but we got a bad phone call Saturday and my wife had to rush to Michigan to see her brother. Things have been chaos since.

JeffCo, eh? That's primarily Broomfield, yeah? Were you at the 2nd CD Convention as well?

And yeah, I need to write something about it at some point. It was quite the experience, and a great source of optimism. Did you see that Udall's ahead in the polls now? Good times are ahead of us.

Evergreen. CD6 with Hank Eng going against probably Coffman for Tancredo's seat. JeffCo is the whole west side of Denver metro, Lakewood, Littleton, Golden, Arvada, and up into the mountains where we are.

Yes, I saw Udall gaining ground on that turd Bob Schaffer. Funny about his campaign ad featuring Mt. McKinley (Denali) in Alaska and calling it Pike's Peak!

No kidding. Gad... If CD6 goes blue this year, paint me amazified. I've been hearing really good things about Eng, though, so good luck. At least it definitely will not be Tancredo. What an embarassing presidential candidate he was...

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Dude, 15 million and counting is a small minority?

Dude, try reading. I think I've been very clear about this, but to reiterate...

The vast majority of Clinton supporters will vote for Obama in November. No question there. The exception being a few of y'all trollin' the internet, and what wonkette.com has officially coined the "bitters," bless them.

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Small majority? You have polled all Clinton Supporters have you? AHhhhh I see.

By the way good going. I see you have disdain for anyone born below the mason dixon line. Nothing like a campaign of hope. Drink up on your koolaid.

Louisville, if you actually want to continue trolling and giving idiotic responses with no value or substance, then go ahead. No one needs to poll every single Clinton supporter to know that, when it comes down to it, they're Democrats, and in the end, the Democrats are going to unite. Because, whether you like Clinton or Obama, or hate either one of them, or both, it doesn't matter: any freaking Democratic is better than John McCain.

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if you actually want to continue trolling and giving idiotic responses with no value or substance, then go ahead.

You should talk, Sparky. You admit you're a ranter. Yet your rant had no value or substance. And that's the trouble with posts like yours and this one. They're just tedious.

There are three people who use a dozen or so names to troll this site and make outrageous statements to get usually agreeable people talking like Sailors.

The reason we don't hammer all of them is that some of legitimate Hillary supporters who get caught up defending their candidate.

I think this will all be find as long as we identify and isolate.

Haha! If you want to think it had no value or substance, then go ahead. That's not what many, MANY of the responses to my post were saying. Ranting does not equal trolling. I've still yet to see you give a single rational post or response to anything on this site. Try again, buddy.

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I don't give a shit what other trolls say about your trollish posts.

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Check the Ohio polls today genius.

Wow, okay. I've tried with you. I have. I've tried engaging in a conversation. But you're really just makin' shit up. In point of fact, I have disdain for you. You're on my shitlist. All rational Clinton supporters, which is most, are invited over to my place for tea. We can plan fundraisers for the DNC.

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Louisville1975, how you mix your Kool-Aid. Obama handily wins all the traditional Confederate states and now his supporters insult anyone "below the mason-dixon line"? Sounds like a Troll to me.

Lalo35adm: just answer Seth's question. What defining action/moment/issue turned you off to Obama? If you're not a troll, then at least take a few minutes to Google a pretend answer.

honey? Oh lord.

Oh, Yoda, sweetie...why bring religion into this?

Exactly. Josh's title "Toxic", currently on the front page, is correct. Clinton has thrown the seeds of illegitimacy on this election and is fertilizing the seedlings with accusations of misogyny and disenfranchisement. Political cynicism at it's finest. She is showing every day that she would be happy if Obama gets the nomination and then loses as she cynically leads the older white folks away.

I have lost all patience with Clinton and these faux supporters and curse silently while watching this unfold.

By the way, man, hang in there. I know it gets really freaking hard. I had my own blog post a few days ago ranting about how fed up I was with Clinton herself. I feel you, I know where you're coming from. We're a growing number of voters. But, I've decided, it's much better to look at John McCain. Obama's going to win, so it's much better to look forward to the General Election. Much more exciting, too.

See, here's the thing. This is what really bothers me. These people are not posting because they support Clinton or believe in the Democratic cause, that much is clear. This means they'll keep resurfacing, over and over again, into the general and beyond. I don't know what their motivation is, perhaps someday it'll be clear, but I figured it was about time to confront it head-on.

I have nothing really against Clinton. I think in many ways she'd be a wonderful president. But there's this other person running, ya know, that I like more. Anyway, John McCain's goin' down. We all know that.

"I have nothing really against Clinton. I think in many ways she'd be a wonderful president."

Please.

Setting aside her naturally abrasive personality and her blatantly amoral ethics, I am hard pressed to imagine Hillary being anything more than a vector for continued rancor--at home and abroad. There is no more divisive, polarizing figure on the American political landscape.

Furthermore, notwithstanding her "ready on day one" and "3AM phone call" assertions, I cannot shake the sense that winning the election is her mission. Period. She wants to be the boss. The first female in the Oval Office. To her, everything else is just nettlesome detail and political intrigue.

And, speaking of "Day One," Hillary's candidacy reeks of perpetuity. Day One will be the first day of a re-election campaign that will dominate the agenda of her first term to the exclusion of all else. Her second term will be similarly devoted to repealing the 22nd amendment. Such is the depth of her megalomania.

SHE IS NOT WORTHY!

Seth -- youre post brought all of the regular trolls out. They are so predictable. They sit at home and wait for any message that is against hillary, and they go into action. They are pathetically predictable. The live for this shit. Sad really.


They did it to me, too. It made me chuckle.