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Socrates and the "White, Working Class" (Edited)

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I'm channeling Thomas Frank here (can you "channel" someone who's still
alive?), but I think the Democrats' problem, which the Republicans have
ridden to success since Nixon, is they have forgotten who they
represent.

Successful politics, in a democracy, is not as much
about what you stand for, but more who you
stand with.

Think about it: who has
become the Republican base? What are the economic circumstances of the
average, say, Rush Limbaugh listener? Who sends those little checks
most faithfully to the various right-wing religious hucksters out
there? I'm asking seriously: who are these people?

The somewhat tragic answer is, "lots of former Democrats".

Let me set up a little Socratic thingie to show you what I'm talking about.

***

Me: But Soc, ol' buddy, you're talking about The Repub's deluded base,
here. You know, the people agitating for tax cuts for their boss's
boss's boss? What possible use could they be to the Democrats?

Socrates: I can see I'm outmatched here, and must bow to your superior wisdom in
this matter. I just have one or two questions, and I was hoping you
could enlighten my ignorance.

Me: Sure, Soc. Shoot.

Socrates: Who are these people you call the 'base' of the Republican Party?

Me: Oh, you know...working stiffs...people in our society
who are more or less powerless. People with stagnant wages, maybe just
a high school education, who have little or no power in the workplace
or the rest of society, and feel some vicarious empowerment when they
hear Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity "speaking up for them".

Socrates: He speaks for them, does he?

Me: Well, of course. You know, against the dirty, heathen
Liberals who want to turn all their wives into hairy-legged,
baby-killing lesbians, or something?

Socrates (aghast): The Liberals want to do that?

Me: Are you serious?? No, of course not!

Socrates:
Well, that's a relief. I just wonder then: why are they not voting for
Democrats? They used to, in huge numbers, as I recall...

Me: I already told you - The Republicans have the wool pulled over their eyes.

Socrates:
Ah, exactly so: I can see what you mean now. But I still don't
understand: why did they stop voting for Democrats? I remember quite a
long period when people like that voted overwhelmingly for Democrats,
every single election, starting in 1932.

Me: Well, you know, that was a different time, then...

Socrates: Really? And how was it different?

Me:
Well, to begin with, there was the Great Depression, which threw
everyone out of work. The Republican response was: let charity take
care of the indigent, and let The Market right itself. The Democrats
had specific, concrete plans to help the people who were hurting...and
so the Republicans just got killed in the '32 elections...

Socrates:
Ah, so the Republicans learned their lesson, and sing a different tune, now?

Me:
Of course they...you know, come to think of it, no. They are pretty
much saying and doing the same things now as they did then.

Socrates:
Then I'm still confused - why are all those poor farmers and
minimum-wage earners and economically hurting people now voting for
Republicans?

Me: I already told you - the Republicans are appealing to their fears and prejudices!

Socrates:
Hmmm...if those folks voted Democratic, do you think the Democrats
might do better in elections?

Me: I'm sure we would, but we don't want those people.
Socrates: Because...?

Me: Do I have to tell you again?? The Republicans have them all tied up in fear and prejudice.

Socrates:
I see. Let me ask you: Have you ever experienced feelings of fear, and
even prejudice, within yourself?

Me (thinking): Oh, sure. It's probably a universal human experience to some extent.

Socrates: Did you enjoy it?

Me: Well, no, it pretty much...sucked. What's your point?

Socrates:
Do you think the people who now are caught up in the Republicans' fear
mongering and pandering to prejudices are enjoying the experience - I
mean, really, deeply enjoying it??

Me: Um, probably not...

Socrates: Then why do they allow the Republicans to keep doing it?

Me: You lost me.

Socrates:

As we've established already, not only are they powerless, but their
prejudices and fears are only adding to their misery. Isn't that true?

Me:
I've never thought of it that way, but yes, I guess you're right. What
the heck is wrong with them?

Socrates:

Do you remember the impassioned speech given at the 2004 Democratic
National Convention - the one everyone remembers - where the speaker
eloquently called for huge amounts of assistance for struggling family
farmers, a living wage for all American workers, card-check legislation
to help workers get some power in the workplace, and shooting barbs at
the Republican rich, "lolling obscenely in their Opera Boxes"?

Me:
Um...(thinking)...No, actually I don't.

Socrates:

Neither do I. Do you want to help people who are trapped in economic
stagnation, and are being exploited with fear and prejudice?

Me:
Well, yeah, that's a large part of the reason I'm a Democrat.

Socrates:
Well, how can you help them?

Me: Like I said, they are pretty much beyond help...

Socrates (now genuinely shocked): You don't really believe that, do you?

Me: Well, what can we do for those people?

Socrates:
"Those people"? Didn't you describe them yourself as, "Working
stiffs...people in our society who are more or less powerless. People
with stagnant wages, maybe just a high school education, who have
little or no power in the workplace or the rest of society?"

Me: Yes, that's right: the Republican Base.

Socrates:

We also went over how the Democrats gained a large and enduring
majority in the past by coming up with specific, concrete plans to help
people who were hurting, did we not?

Me (dawning
realization): Uh, yes, I guess so. (Suddenly troubled)
But Soc, what about the social issues - abortion and so on?

Socrates: What about them?.

Me: Ok, now I'm really lost.

Socrates:
How much does gay marriage or the legal status of abortion actually
increase the misery of their lives, in the course of living out their
daily existence?

Me: Actually, on a day-to-day basis? Probably not much. Not much at all, really.

Socrates:
And how much does the fact that they are, in your words, "people in our
society who are more or less powerless...with stagnant wages, maybe
just a high school education, who have little or no power in the
workplace or the rest of society" make their lives harder, on a daily
basis?

Me: I imagine it's a constant, grinding bummer.

Socrates:
So, if you offered a whole list of ways to help them with those
concrete, constantly-lived, ever-present miseries - in fact, if you
organized your campaign around those issues, and hit the talking points
constantly - do you imagine they might just consider voting for your
candidates?


Comments (7)

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That's better!

[Moderators - any way to delete the previous, unedited version of this post?]

No moderators here. Completely unregulated, trolls and all.

Listening to Tom Hartmann he reminded us that much safety-net and labor-friendly legislation was intrinsic to GOP platforms under Eisenhower. While Ike responded to Brown vs Board in 54 it fell to Democrats to acknowledge Martin Luther King's efforts, under LBJ. If Nixon had won instead of Kennedy, he might have had to give in on Civil Rights, and Democrats would have played the southern strategy, since they were already there.

Try this one on.
Woodstock Nation co-opted the Democratic Party in 1968 and set McGovern up as their candidate for '72. Landslide loss. The Democratic Party leadership, Hillary and Dean types, former Republicans and of the same social class as the Bush's and others in the Republican leadership, they attended the same prep schools and Ivy League Universities, concentrated on "Social Issues" and ridiculed "working-class whites" as "Archie Bunker types."
These blue collar Union households were, understandably, miffed.
Kitchen Table Issues were shunted aside to concentrate on Gays in the Military and like issues. ( Nothing against Gays in the Military you understand, just a run down of facts.)
Ever since we have had Democratic Candidates who are hand chosen by the same people who choose the Republican Candidates, Corporations and "Big Business".
Follow the money, the Campaign Financing, these are the Power Players. The working-class whites may not realize the dynamics, but they are savvy enough to know that The Government as it now exists , exist to serve Big Corporations and the already rich, not them!
Many have disengaged, and why not?
The standard of living has only been maintained due to the wives entering the workforce in the '80's. Now, short of child labor, there is no one else to send to work, and no factory jobs to send 'em to if there were more people to send to work. And candidates blow smoke and equivocate and are full of sound and fury signifying...well ,you know.
Democrats are elected, Republicans are elected but their jobs "aren't coming back" and NOTHING GET BETTER FOR THEM!
But they like to hunt, they like everybody to speak English and they are striving to protect some vestige of the live they grew up expecting to live. They are failing.
As for Gay marriage and abortion, these are thing they can understand. They are entitled to their opinions on these issues whether you and I agree with them or not. And if this is what rules their votes then the Democratic Party need to reward them when elected to office with jobs and services paid for by the rich and Corporations. This never happens. Republicans REWARD the people who put them in office the Democrats seldom do.

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Republicans REWARD the people who put them in office the Democrats seldom do.

Exactly, Stravu9. Thus the last line: "If [we] offered a whole list of ways to help them with those
concrete, constantly-lived, ever-present miseries - in fact, if we organized our campaign around those issues, and hit the talking points constantly... they might just consider voting for our
candidates..."

The answer is, "Not all would be persuaded, but enough to make a huge difference."

That's why I think it's silly to say things like, New Deal politics won't work because it isn't 1932.

I'd argue that there are just as many similarities as there are differences.

No one is advocating FDRs unrevised policies. The idea of those policies is what's needed.

That pendulum is due to swing to the left. Abruptly.

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That pendulum is due to swing to the left. Abruptly.

Amen. Lord, let it be soon! :)

Yes, please!

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