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Reid & Pelosi: It's over, Obama won, no convention fight
Harry Reid key quotes via The Jed Report:
"There's not going to be a fight at the convention...we are all going to urge our folks to next week make a decision very quickly. Simple math indicates that next Tuesday...Obama will probably have the necessary number."According to the LA Times & SF Chronicle, Reid & Pelosi and now in sync.
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"I don't lament this campaign taking as long as it has, but it's time it ended. ...By this time next week, it will all be over give or take a day."
The primary will end next week (LA Times):
WASHINGTON -- Hillary Rodham Clinton is coming under growing pressure from Democratic Party leaders and elected officials to quit the race, while some of her own supporters seem reluctant to rally behind her strategy for salvaging her presidential ambitions.Pelosi won't allow convention fight, Pelosi won't allow convention fight (SF Chronicle):
Intervening in the primary fight, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi are sending public and private messages to superdelegates urging them to make a choice once primary voting ends Tuesday.
..."We're going to urge folks to make a decision quickly -- next week," Reid said in an interview with a radio program in his state of Nevada. "We agree there won't be a fight at the convention."
Pelosi predicted Wednesday that a presidential nominee will emerge in the week after the final Democratic primaries on June 3, but she said "I will step in" if there is no resolution by late June regarding the seating of delegates from Florida and Michigan, the two states that defied party rules by holding early primaries.Insert Taps score here.
"Because we cannot take this fight to the convention," she said. "It must be over before then."
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She said the party committee will come up with a formula that is "fair and accepted by both campaigns," perhaps allowing the states 50 percent of their delegates. But "if the resolution is not appropriate, then it remains for the (Democratic National Convention) credentials committee to resolve it," she said. Then, "it will have to happen by the end of June" or she will intervene, she said.
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Comments (26)
I, Hillary Clinton, your future president, will bow to the wishes of Nancy Pelosi, since for some inexplicable reason, I have a long track record of doing exactly what she tells me to do on all issues. So I hereby end my candidacy for the Democratic nomination on June 4th, and begin my candidacy as an Independent for president.
Much Love,
Hillary - be seeing you in Denver.
May 30, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Poor thing. Poor delusional thing. If you dead-enders don't think Pelosi, Reid & Dean have handfuls of supers ready to vote when they say vote, you haven't been paying attention.
Pelosi, Reid & Dean don't have to personally vote or do anything publicly. They just have to tell their own groups of supers, now!'
May 30, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dude, I think she's joking. She pops up all over the place and writes a bunch of nonsensical stuff that is completely detached from reality.
Art imitating life, no?
May 30, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
so why are you still campaigning for Obama?
cuz maybe he lost?
May 30, 2008 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're arguments are about as substantive as your spelling.
May 31, 2008 1:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
If Hillary wants to declare herself an Independent candidate, she can have her Independent Party convention in whatever the hell city she wants, in whatever the hell month she wants. But once she declares she is running as a third party, she can cash in her ticket to Denver.
May 31, 2008 12:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
If I were a betting woman, I'd say that it's more likely that Hillary will try to keep the drama going between now and the convention than it is that she'll fall in line. But, as you say JB, it's pointless. The Democratic leadership is finally coming out and saying, "You're done" to Hillary. She'll fade away - kicking and screaming - but she will fade away.
An independent run for the Presidency? Mmmm...'K. But, she doesn't have the funds or the people with political capital to help her lead that. She may choose to go down in true Kamikaze style, but it appears to be indeed over for her.
May 30, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. Moreover, when the SDs put Obama over the top, and the DNC awards Michigan and Florida half their delegates, there's no more story for the media to report. Kicking and screaming, she can't drag this out for more than about two weeks.
May 31, 2008 2:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
She's setting up to take it to the convention. She's asking for full seating of Michigan and Florida knowing that that isn't even an option.
May 30, 2008 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's too bad Reid and Pelosi don't show this kind of focus and backbone when say confronting George Bush in the dismantling of the Constitution.
Perhaps they can get stints subbing for Keith Olbermann as the conscience of our nation.
May 30, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree 100%.
May 30, 2008 1:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great point. Why haven't they done this before? Are they allergic to each other? Is a contested Democratic primary the most upsetting thing to them that has happened in the past few years? The thing that finally makes them take a firm stand? No problem with Iraq? with trampling the consitution? with total inaction on health care?
May 30, 2008 8:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
The difference is that this is their party. They might have to work with politicians from other parties, but Democrats are supposed to fall into line.
May 31, 2008 1:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hahaha! Funny post, joshuablog.
What you seem not to comprehend is that Nancy Pelosi is publicly predicting that the FL and MI delegate-seating issue won't be resolved on May 31.
Not only that, she won't step in until the end of June if necessary! I'm sure candidates, the DNC, the rules committee, and the super delegates are not even paying attention to her.
You quote Reid: We're going to urge folks to make a decision quickly. lol! Urge? Folks? Quickly? I'm sure folks will put "Make a decision" near the top of their To-Do list.
Note to slow-learners: Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid have no power to determine the outcome of this nomination. Neither does Howard Dean, Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, or Jesus Christ. It's over when the candidates say it's over. The candidates have 100% of the say, so you need to listen to them. If Hillary says she's taking it to the convention, she's taking it to the convention.
Thanks for the uplifting commentary, however. Reid's and Pelosi's passivity is excellent news for Hillary.
Can't wait to watch C-SPAN tomorrow. I hear there are already protests going on!
May 30, 2008 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Take your meds buddy. If you already have, up the dose.
ROTFLOL
May 30, 2008 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
To summarize Gasket's post: "Oh. Oh, I see. Running away, eh? You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!"
May 31, 2008 1:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
If you think HRC will go quietly into the good night, think again:
Clinton Issues Post-Primary Schedule (Yes, Post-Primary Schedule)
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ABC News' Eloise Harper Reports: The press traveling with Sen. Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign received an email Thursday afternoon informing reporters they could sign up for travel through June 6 on the campaign website.
Given the speculation surrounding plausible outcomes from this Saturday's DNC Meeting and the final Democratic primaries on June 3, many confused looks passed between reporters on the back of the press bus.
When asked for comment, Clinton spokesman Jay Carson looked past Tuesday's primaries to the general election.
"There are a lot of places for us to go between June 4 and November," Carson said.
May 30, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
She can do whatever the fuck she wants. After Wednesday, the supers, the democratic party and the media will have move on.
May 30, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, she is tens of millions of dollars in debt. If she decides to strike out as an Independent, she burns all bridges to dems who might help her get rid of some of this debt.
No one in the dem camp is going to help her spoil 2008 for Obama once he is the nominee.
If she walks away from even the $10 million she owes to others than herself, she will be political poison in the future.
If she wants a political future, she has to work with the dems.
May 31, 2008 12:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hadn't even thought about this part of the equation.
It's at the top of the list now as to why this will be over next week.
;-)
May 31, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I disagree. But I disagree because the superdelegates moved on several weeks ago.
Paul Kane, WaPo:
Unfortunately, readers of TPMEC seem to have missed the memo. It's been over for weeks. But the people who love Hillary, and the people who love to hate Hillary, are locked together by their common desire not to let it be over.
May 31, 2008 12:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
I can't tell from the Kane clip you posted whether he actually has evidence of "we're waiting Hillary to drop out and we won't announce til we do." It seems more like, "Obama's the nominee, we're waiting for the last primaries when we expect Clinton to drop out (but if she doesn't then we'll act)." I'm thinking the latter of those scenarios is probably closer to reality.
The party is not going to sit idly by and watch Clinton destroy it. And if Clinton cares at all about her political future, she won't seek to. She's in through the primaries. Then maybe a week after. Then this is over.
May 31, 2008 2:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
I haven't missed that memo.
The supers have moved on and that article only confirmed my beliefs.
I meant to say "uncommitted" supers (so my bad for not clarifying).
;-)
May 31, 2008 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
My comment was meant for the thread above! DOAH.
May 31, 2008 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not TPMEC readers who didn't get the memo. It's Hillary.
May 31, 2008 6:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
I haven't missed that memo.
The supers have moved on and that article only confirmed my beliefs.
I meant to say "uncommitted" supers (so my bad for not clarifying).
;-)
May 31, 2008 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
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