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Olberman Hands Hillary Her Ass......

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Thank you, Keith, for laying out in fine detail the utter fatuousness and inconsequentiality of Hillary's entire campaign - a campaign that has done nothing but sink lower and lower with every passing week.
no Presidential nomination.
no Vp offer on the ticket.
Time to get the Hell out of the race while you have some small percentage of dignity left.


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Keith is our straight talk express.
Good night, Hillary, and Good Luck.

Keith is our O'Reilly. That said, yeah, I watch him too.

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Except that O'Reilly is a disingenuous hypocrite.

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Olberman's head is up his own Ass.

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Oh? I thought it was up Hillary's, looking for you.

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The sin that Olbermann has committed is
contributing toward dividing the democratic party,
for the sake of ratings.

He is hate mongering to pander to his blog base.

The blogs are full of operatives whipping up hate
to manipulate young people in the direction corporate
wants them to go in.

Olbermann knows this, and accommodates out of
opportunism.

I have gone from being a fan, to thinking he should
be out on his ass. The sooner the better.

Why were you a fan in the first place? Could it be that he called the right wing on all of their lies and bullshit? Could it be he is as sick as we all are of lying deceitful politicians? Could it be that he will call to task anyone who does not have common decency?

Keith has not changed - you have.

Think about it. Could it really be a great right wing, left wing, MSM, newspaper, blogger conspiracy against Clinton? Just like in the 90's?

Many of us defended both Clinton's against that shit. Hell MoveOn was created for that cause.

There is not a mistake. Hillary has dug her own hole. Anyone with an ounce of discernment can see it for what it is.

Oh by the way, Keith defended both Clintons in the past:

he did a special comment defending her in July after the Defense Dept. sent her a letter accusing her of facilitating anti-U.S. propaganda by demanding to know whether the administration had conceived of an exit strategy from Iraq. He also defended her husband, Bill Clinton, in Sept. 2006 after his controversial interview with FNC's Chris Wallace.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/12/keith-olbermann-to-do-sp_n_91110.html

Could it be possibly be that she has continually, throughout this campaign, committed the same acts he has raged against (warmongering, lies, deceitfulness, subverting rules/laws) for years? Or is he only allowed to point out these travesties if they are perpetrated by republicans?

I have a lot of respect for Olbermann. He could have kept silent. He could have let Hillary's RNC tactics slide. He did not. Speaking up for decency, ethics, rule of law, and truthfulness knows no party.

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He turned on them the day Kos sold his forum to Obama operatives for their smear campaign against Hillary Clinton.

The timing is too much of a coincidence.

If "specialist's" head wasn't so far up his own behind, he'd know he'd see he was wrong. You're apparently just a specialist at being especially dimwitted and too lazy to make a coherent case against Keith Olbermann.

Hillary's supporters who are so love struck as to give her a pass on suggestions of assassination, obviously have no problem with killing the messenger.

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Olbermann's mother is known to post in liberal blogs about her little darling.
Might you be her?

Oh, and how did he get this fetish for hot young chicks?

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I admit that everyone has their bias. But is it really fair to compare him with O'Reilly? I have the feeling that Olbermann generally presents a clear line of reasoning, and brings to light news that is often overlooked - even if not everyone is always going to agree with his conclusions (I generally do, but of course nobody ever agrees on anything).

I really can't see this being said about O'Reilly, though. The common denominator may be a sense of outrage - but does that really equate the two?

No. Not at all.

Keith Olbermann for White House Press Secretary!!!
The man has the unique ability to cut through the bull and call it as it is.

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you seriously want to make us the laughing
stock of the world, don't you?

Too late to worry about that.

Touche!

Strawberry flavor or grape?

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Oh, blusage, are you handing out my KoolAid? Thank you, thank you very much!

Blusage, you would know Jim Jones. Hillary will never be president or vice president.

Ironically, the Hillary Deathwatch on Slate.com gives her a 0.7% chance of getting the nomination.

http://www.slate.com/id/2191981/

Hillary's camp can't afford Kool-aid, they used the cheap stuff, Flavor-aid. :D

laced with psychedelics (which would explain the altered reality)

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Actually, the intelligence level of the lead Clinton forum is about 500% higher than this band of mono syllabic Obama Chimps.

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Which must be why MyDD bans fact-checkers. Riiiight.

Even if you take her at her word regarding the RFK issue, she was still playing loose with the facts by saying there is nothing wrong with a June primary because Bobby and Bill both were not decided until June without informing her listener that in both cases the Primary seasons didn't start in January as they presently do, but in March. So March to June is 4 months, meaning four months from January would be April. So comparatively NC/Indiana should have been the end - the last big state with North Carolina (like Cali was in the past).

She's cherry-picking facts without putting them in proper context in order to support her case.

Excellent point! Why arent' the pundit's bringing that up?

And... had she been ahead after February 5th,she would've happily accepted anyone else's concession; even if that meant not letting the remaining states vote, desenfranchising millions of voters.

February 5th would've been a fine place to stop, if the nomination was going to her.

Now, where the heck is that oasis!!

Link to Keith's special comment
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24797758/

Thanks, Mageduley!

No prob :) Please spread it around - lots of people asking for it.

Will do!

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Actually I think the Jonathan Alter appraisal was far more devastating - his dulcet, reasoned...
Don't miss it:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/

Howard Fineman was pretty good, too.

Keith's commentary on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNdbvvva1Zg

And a comprehensive rundown of all of the journalists freaking out over Hillary's inexcusable evil:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/23/clinton-kennedy-assassina_n_103319.html

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Speaking of journalists,

Rock Hackshaw over at Room 8 says
"Then last month I had a long conversation with a journalist who has flown on the Clinton campaign plane on many occasions. That person has been covering this campaign for over a year now. I was arguing my persistent point, that this race was a wrap. The person agreed; that person even said that she had about a one per cent chance of being the nominee of the Dems. Then I was told something that sent chills up my spine. I was told that amongst the press corps covering this campaign, many individuals believed that the only reason the Clintons were staying in this race, was because deep down, they must feel that someone is going to take a shot (whack/bullet) at Barack Obama.

After quickly regaining my composure, I asked why no one has written this. The answer was put to me this way: “who is brave enough to do that”? This was when I decided to do it. I decided right there that I would do that column, even if I was going to -somewhat reluctantly- put this journalist in a spot. I felt it had to come out. I felt it was my responsibility."

(Hackshaw has long been critical of what he sees as the inadequacy of Obama's security detail and Obama's lack of concern about it)

"Hillary, Bill and Barack: The column I refused to write last month."

That was overwhelming.

Hillary hates us.

June 3, 2008 is the new January 20, 2009.

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Shit, June 3 is the new my birthday. Let's hope I really get what I want!

With a nod to Michael Scott, I say Hillary, "Why are you the way that you are? Honestly, every time we Democrats try to do something inspiring, or exciting, you make it... not that way. I hate... so much about the things that you choose to be."

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It took until Andersen Cooper at 11 for the stupid media to fact check the first half of Clinton's statement, that Bill Clinton wrapped up the 1992 nomination in California in June, when in fact he had wrapped it up by winning New York in early April 1992.

The primary started on Jan. 3rd, 2008. In 1992 on Feb. 3rd, and in 1968 it started in March. So her time comparison is also skewed. wow

If you fact check Hillary then you are a misogynist.

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Handing her her ass is considered quite sexist as well.

"Handing her her ass is considered quite sexist as well."

Hernia inducing also. The term "heavy lifting" comes to mind.

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Isn't one of the 7 signs of the Apocalypse using the words 'fact-check' and 'Hillary' in the same sentence, without using the word 'numerous'?

LOL...I love Olbermann's rhetorical fire. I unequivocally agree with what he said but like usual he is completely over the top with his theatrics. :-P

Us in the left could use more passionate defenders in the MSM like Mr. Olbermann.

The left could use defenders (or, failing that, a presence) in the msm PERIOD.

Keith Olbermann is a rare breed of pundit: intelligent and well-versed in American History. It's fun watching him and Chris Matthews commentate during this or that primary election. Keith will always titillate by raising obscure, yet accurate, historical anecdotes. I love it. I bet Chris gets that warm, tingling sensation in his leg over Keith.

Obama/Olbermann 08!

That was the funniest thing I read so far, thank you!

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"I bet Chris gets that warm, tingling sensation in his leg over Keith."

I know I do!!!!

Ditto!

I'm supporting "out of the loop" here, but for some reason my reply got put down here.

I've gained more respect for Keith that I ever had before the primary season. He tells it like it is, and he's not afraid of doing so. We need more people like him in the media.

Keith is our O'Reilly. That said, yeah, I watch him too.

I disagree about the Olberman/O'Reilly comparison. O'Reilly is a bully, which means that deep down he's a coward. He doesn't appear anywhere where he's not in complete control of the microphones, so when he's losing he can cut his opponent off comletely. I don't remember ever hearing of Olberman cutting anyone off.

I have a friend that likes to make that fallacious comparison as well. On a superficial level there's truth to it. O'Reilly commentates from the right and Olbermann from the left. But that's the extent of the comparison. Olbermann eats O'Reilly's lunch, which I'm sure is falafel.

There are differences. But there are also similarities. IMHO, Olbermann's comment tonight was bully-like: it started to whip up mass outrage before it paused to think hard about the evidence. He started by getting in a huff about the word "assassination," as if the word itself should be morally off limits.

It might be stupid PR, but just using the word is not a crime.

I'm afraid that Keith is turning into a demagogue first and a journalist second.

The word assassination should be absolutely off limits when refering to the reasoning of why she should stay in the race.

Her fanning the flames of racism recently makes white supremacists think of her as one of their own.

What kind of dog whistle is that to the nutcase kooks out there?

The word assassination should be absolutely off limits when refering to the reasoning of why she should stay in the race.

The word assassination should be absolutely off limits. Period. There is no reason for any candidate to ever say it.

It's not a smart word to use, PR-wise. But the idea that using the word is, in itself, a moral outrage . . .

Hey, if you believe that, fine. I'm happy that Hillary's VP push has run into this bump, so I've got nothing to be angry about, and it's a nice day, so I'm not going to argue with you.

I will repeat that I don't think Keith Olbermann is a model of dispassionate analysis. He's certainly no Josh Marshall.

I'm glad Keith ain't a dispassionate voice. But I agree with you. While I'm not a Hillary fan to put it in mild terms, the entire episode has been blown out of proportions to make sure the VP slot is kept out of her reach.

It was distasteful an inappropriate use of words, no arguments. Also, her reluctance for a honest apology pisses me off.

But I don't believe everyone who's up and arms about it are as appalled as they appear considering the context on all three occassions.

Keith will have a place in Obama administration, no doubt. I believed that for a a while now.

Also, while this issue is being exploited to keep Hillary at bay I'm not sure it will work. Clintons will turn every stone in every corner to sneak through.

I don't want her to be on the ticket, by the way. But there'll be negative effects if this episode is overplayed.

I agree with you. I think this was highlighted (subtly) in order to stop the VP talk, which could have built into a problem.

I really, really don't want to see Clinton on the ticket, so I'm perfectly fine with that. And I don't think the Obama camp will overplay this flap -- doing so would risk pissing off Clinton supporters.

Some of Obama's more enthusiastic supporters may overplay it, but that's not a big deal.

I don't think the Obama camp will overplay this flap -- doing so would risk pissing off Clinton supporters.

Honestly, I can't recall a single instance where Obama overplayed or played at all any Clinton dickhead moments. Notably, the Tulza flap. But many Hillary supporters will refuse to believe it under any circumstance even though she induced and exploitment Obama's weaker moments time and time again.

However, media (expectedly) have done immense disservice to this primary and the democratic party- including Russert, Olbermann, Mathews and Schuster at MSNBC. Instead of playing a refree they acted as catalysts to flare tensions between the two camps.

Therefore, many Clinton supporters will conviniently refuse to see the difference between the media and the Obama camp. And Hillary a master at playing the victim card will sieze the occassion to depict another world v. me charade. Hillary is already unleashing the vase sexist conspiracy argument.

I'll not be surprised if Obama doesn't come out defending her, may be if the flap continues through the weekend. One reason he's mum so far may be because he doesn't want to make a case him v. Hillary anymore.

I mean "exsploited" ofcorse.

I mean ofcourse, ofcourse. LOL

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I like watching Olberman from time to time. But this special comment was just cheesy as hell, and purely for ratings purposes. It was cool when he eviscerated Rummy for mismanaging a war, resulting in lots of death. This time, it was going after someone for a gaffe, making it just bluster. As an ardent Obama supporter, I say thanks but no thanks to Olberman for this special comment. It's made the left look silly. Save it for situations that warrant actual outrage....

Yes, I agree. Olbermann is bit better when he is simply interviewing somebody, although I think he tends to go into the interview with too many preconceived opinions, which he then tries to foist onto the guest. His special comments are absurdly theatrical - 15 or 30 seconds worth of serious commentary filled out with a several minutes of overheated wind. I just feel embarrassed for him when I watch them. Frankly, he comes off as a bit of a dufus. He really needs to dial it down several notches.

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olberman is a pompous ass-so I guess ass and olberman in the same heading is appropriate. Senator Clinton is intelligent (olberman is a scairdy man afraid of smart women). Olberman is nothing--just another talk show host. OOOH!! Maybe he is as politically astute as SIMON!!!! Olberman can suck oblahblah's teeny peeny--he probably already registered for that priviilge by promising to join the "let's pretend to be a brother" bandwagon that oblahblah drives. I listened to the incredibly buffoonish jon stewart the other night ragging on white voters.
Uh, jon? Hate to break it to you, but you ARE white, too. And, by the way, so is oblahblah--when it is CONVENIENT for him to be so (ie PA, KY, WVA). Suddenly, all these guys think that if they jump on the obamabot bandwagon they will grow long ones. Trust me, the legend is NOT true.
grow up, little men. you are losing ground and it scares the crap out of you that you might actually have to have a woman (other than your mommies) in charge.

Sexist, much?

"grow up, little men. you are losing ground and it scares the crap out of you that you might actually have to have a woman (other than your mommies) in charge."

judyjudy, judyjudy,

Your sexism is showing much. Hide it before you accuse others of such... (Just so you sound half-way reasonable.)

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Wow, you're not sexist at all are you?

Hillary will still never be president or vice president. You're being such a sore loser that you're attacking a journalist for telling it like it is. What, are you Dick Cheney or something?

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olberman is a pompous ass-so I guess ass and olberman in the same heading is appropriate. Senator Clinton is intelligent (olberman is a scairdy man afraid of smart women). Olberman is nothing--just another talk show host. OOOH!! Maybe he is as politically astute as SIMON!!!! Olberman can suck oblahblah's teeny peeny--he probably already registered for that priviilge by promising to join the "let's pretend to be a brother" bandwagon that oblahblah drives. I listened to the incredibly buffoonish jon stewart the other night ragging on white voters.
Uh, jon? Hate to break it to you, but you ARE white, too. And, by the way, so is oblahblah--when it is CONVENIENT for him to be so (ie PA, KY, WVA). Suddenly, all these guys think that if they jump on the obamabot bandwagon they will grow long ones. Trust me, the legend is NOT true.
grow up, little men. you are losing ground and it scares the crap out of you that you might actually have to have a woman (other than your mommies) in charge.

Olberman can suck oblahblah's teeny peeny--he probably already registered for that priviilge by promising to join the "let's pretend to be a brother" bandwagon that oblahblah drives.

Excellent ambassador for Hillary.

Thanks for making us look good!

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oblahblah is actually funny... good pun. That said, you're a jerk. Which is unfortunately a common theme that runs through most prominent Hillary supporters.

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Olberman always seems like he's about to vomit. As much as I enjoy Bush bashing, I used to think that Olberman went way over the edge in his verbose denunciations. Now I've come to the conclusion that the man has serious psychological problems.

When you have that many delegates behind you, you start your negotiation with as high an offer as possible (i.e. the VP) so you can give concessions to get what you actually want.
Why would Clinton want the VP spot? You can't run for anything else but President after that (if your ticket wins) and Clinton will have a fabulous career in the Senate, with lots of power and popularity nation wide.

As for Olberman, he is going to find himself in the same boat as Limbaugh and Savage, mere caricatures of themselves. Trying to keep hysteria stirred up over some superstitious notion of not talking about the elephant in the room, when people are dying in trumped up wars and subverting the constitution just makes me laugh and shake my head. . .

because a Vice President is there in the necessity IF THE PRESIDENT DIES OR IS UNABLE TO CONTINUE THEIR TERM.


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We don't choose President by unanimous consent. Hillary's delegates don't mean squat, if Obama has won the delegate race outright.

She doesn't have anything to negotiate with.

And if you're one of those who want to blackmail Obama's campaign by threatening to withhold your vote in the GE, you don't know Obama, and more to the point, you don;t know his supporters.

you obviously don't know how politics of primarys are run. You remind me of Jesse Jackson's primary camp of 1984, where they didn't have a clue as to what is real power, and they didn't do a damned thing to codify it.

as for your idea of 'blackmail by threatening to withhold the vote' you will find you are being naive later when you learn.

and as for 'not knowing Obama supporters' if the people that post on TPM is any measure of an Obama supporter. . . well, I guess I know them too well for my taste, yes.

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Clinton's remark was clearly a "talking point" they had tried out in March before with no adverse response. In the wake of Huckabee's disgusting assassination joke and Ted Kennedy's illness--and only days before the 40th anniversary of the assassination--it backfired. She knew the question was coming and she knew what she wanted to say.

What Clinton wanted to do is raise the specter of 1968--charismatic candidate, mobilized young people, angry blacks, chaotic convention leads to defeat for nearly 25 years (if you count Carter as a defeat). She thought that casting her reference to assassination in the context of why she is still running would bullet-proof her. But it just made people connect the dots between her campaign and her only available remaining path to the presidency--something awful could happen.

What she said won't matter to her supporters. But for those of us who have lived through the horror of 1963 and 1968, she took herself off the short list of people who could and should be a "heartbeat away" from the presidency. It may well be that this mistake will cost Huckabee a slot on the Republican ticket, too, because that assassination joke is now sure to haunt him.

KO is a pathetic Obama hack.

Enough with these emotional wrecks of Obama supporters.

This is Presidential politics and you do not have the stomach for it.

I call on all Clintons supporters to take it all the way to the convention and lets show them how to fight .

Clinton is the one to beat McCain.

All the way to the convention like Ted Kennedy.

"KO is a pathetic Obama hack."

One more reason that gotnolife does not have the faintest understanding of much in this world, but especially not in this race, nor in the media. Olberman was a Hillary supporter. He might still be. All I know is that he was, and she's disenchanted him enough to warrant these kinds of attacks. What a brilliant candidate she is, inspiring disgust and hatred from people rather than respect and admiration.

I think Amber would be much better than Olberman.

She's so much more hysterical and contorted, she makes Olberman more sad and impotent than even Lou Dobbs.

And she's just as reasonable as Ann Coulter, which of course is a great plus.

Oh, and for context, Amber and I go way back, right Amber? :-)

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Oh, come on, aren't you being unfair? Amber is much more of an expert on Hillary than Anne Coulter, from what I've seen of her posting history, "everything Hillary" is member Amber's reason to get up in the morning. Either that or she gets a penny for every time she posts on Hillary and gets a commission for each download of the Hillary Deathwatch widget.

Gotnolife - you really got no life.

I've been gone all day. You were on the board when I left this morning, and here you are still all over it when I get back.


that's sad.

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Hillary Clinton should not apologize for the remark she said of Robert F. Kennedy. He was the senator of New York in 1968; she holds the same senate seat that Bobby Kennedy held.

It will be the 40th anniversary of Robert F. Kennedy assassination on June 6th. With all the hype of Ted Kennedy and his brain tumor and the tragedies concerning the Kennedy family, it is on a lot of people’s minds, especially the baby boomers of the 1940’s, 50’s, who saw and lived that tumultuous 60’s era like myself.

It is only fair that we also remember Bobby Kennedy, a young life cut short by a senseless act. No one should apologize for at least remembering Bobby Kennedy and for what he stood for.

On CNN there were special news segment on the 40th anniversary of the Martin Luther King assassination. It was televised for a whole month, Hillary Clinton and John McCain was present at the memorial service given for Martin Luther King. Obama was not present; I guess he had better things to do than to be there.

I only hope that CNN will give the same courtesy to the memory of Robert F. Kennedy -

Quote of Robert F. Kennedy:

Voice of the People

“All great questions must be raised by great voices of the people - Speaking out - in prose, or painting or poetry or music; speaking out
- In homes and halls, streets and farms, courts and cafes - let that Voice speak and the stillness your heart will be the gratitude of
Mankind”.

BELOW IS ROBERT KENNEDY, JR.'s STATEMENT EXPLAINING HILLARY'S COMMENTS.*

ROBERT KENNEDY, JR. IS A CLINTON SUPPORTER.

"It is clear from the content that Hillary was invoking a familiar political circumstance in order to support her decision to stay in the race through June. I have heard her make this reference before, also citing her husband's 1992 race, both of which were hard fought through June. I understand how highly charge the atmosphere is, but I it is a mistake for people to take offense."

Fight on Hillary!

Unfortunately for Hillary, you don't get to tell people when they are allowed to take offense and when they aren't.

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Funny how the only people "taking offense" are those trying to get "57 States" nominated.

It wasn't aimed at the Kennedys. It wasn't even aimed at Obama.

It was meant for the voters.

The evil at the heart of assassination isn't just that someone gets killed. The evil is it subverts, destroys, the democratic process. An individual or a conspiracy instantly stops the will of the voters.

That Clinton has mentioned a number of times that assassination is always a possibility, and did so with the blandest of tones, not even mentioning how goddamn fucking unacceptable it would be, shows an extreme level of viciousness.

Robert Jr. isn't offended? Who cares. But me, I'm pissed.

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KO's worst crime is that he's boring and smug, whether discussing politics or sports, his nominal field of expertise.

KO awarded his 'Worst Person in the World' to the Broncos kicker who decided to kick to Devon Hester. One problem KO, that's not the kicker's decision; it's the coaches' decision, specifically the special teams coach and the head coach. But hey, don't let reality get in the way of being a smart ass.

KO will also face a problem if Obama's elected. If KO continues as the de facto Press Secretary for Jonestown, his show will get even more boring. If he actually starts to criticize Obama, he'll lose just about his entire viewership.

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I too remember Robert F. Kennedy and I am also in my 50’s, I too saw and experienced sadness of a life cut short too soon, the thousands of people waving goodbye when the funeral train passed by cities and towns. But I also see Bobby Kennedy’s legacy in all of us, not just Obama but for all Americans especially me, my brothers and sister who are now all in public service.

I hate war and violence especially the riots of 68, it gives no excuse to smash and steel from hard working business owners who try accomplishing the American Dream. The tear gas, the fires and the curfews, I know, I lived it, and it gives no excuse for that kind of violence hatred and destruction.

When Obama decided to run in the Democratic race, I too thought that he would be a good choice. When the news came out about where he gets his spiritual guidance from and the church where he attended, it made me cringe.

The Black liberation theology that he was taught, and the comment s of his Pastor his mentor Rev. Wright preaching “GOD DAMN AMERICA” The company he keeps, the lack of judgment says it all! If Obama really felt for America, why did he stay in this church that practices hate and bigotry for 20 years? I thought we were all rid of this and we all got along!

Why did he and his family stay in this church that used the tragedy of 911, 6 days after it happened, as a joke? When 9-11 happened, it impacted the very core of me and of all Americans. The countless of families that are still grieving for their loss.

Yet Obama stayed in this church that practices hate and played the race card for 20 years. Obama does not deserve to be President!

Fight on Hillary!

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The most significant part of the interview was the list of things Clinton's gotten away with.

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I was finding myself really wishing Keith woulda spent just a teeny bit of that time explaining where all 3 candidates stand on the U.S. missile shield plan that China and Russia met about on Friday, because I can't manage to find much of anything on their stances on it by googling.

But thank you all, you've all set me right, my priorities were all out of whack, it really was more important to make a list of how awful Hillary's campaign has been and expound on that at length.

I agree with you. I think this was highlighted (subtly) in order to stop the VP talk, which could have built into a problem.

I was an Edwards supporter before he dropped out. I had a narrow preference for Obama due to the fact that I thought he would be more likely to change things than Clinton. For me, Clinton's praise of McCain over Obama and and her patently false claims about touring under fire in Bosnia were good enough reasons to keep her off the ticket as VP. She's not a team player, she's prone to saying stupid stuff (i.e., easily disproven self-serving falsehoods), and when she does she lets it fester.

Not a good set of qualifications for a potential running mate.

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