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New Polls: FDR, Aqua-Man, Christ, and Sen. Clinton All Enjoy Greater Poll Margins Over McCain Than Does Obama
Washington, May 22 (TPM). Several new polls were released this morning, some breathlessly touted on this site. All suggest that Democrats have reason for optimism as Barack Obama pivots to the fall election against John McCain, and that enthusiasm for hypothetical noncandidates runs even higher.
First, to the top level of the data: Democrat Barack Obama runs ahead of John McCain in national polling conducted by Gallup by three points, while defeated Democratic primary candidate Hillary Clinton leads McCain by five, a margin attained only since it has been generally acknowledged and understood that she has lost the primary fight against Senator Obama. A group of state polls released by Quinnipiac and pointed to by remnants of the Clinton campaign show Clinton defeating McCain in Ohio 48-41 with Obama trailing 44-40, and both Democrats beating McCain in Pennsylvania, but Clinton (50-37) by a greater margin than Obama (46-40).
Second, while Obama presently leads McCain nationally 47-44 in the Gallup tracker, and defeated primary opponent Clinton leads him 49-44, deceased four-term former Democratic President Franklin D. Roosevelt leads McCain by a substantially more commanding 59-38 margin in recent Gallup polling. Roosevelt runs particularly well among seniors in Pennsylvania and Florida, exceeding both Obama's and Clinton's performances in those states' polls.
Third, Rasmussen Reports, which polled on a yet wider range of subjects has determined that Marvel Comics superhero Aqua-Man (TM) holds a narrower but statistically significant national lead over McCain, 53-44, with his strength coming from coastal states, and those with marshes and navigable waterways, though McCain leads Aqua-Man by large margins in the more arid intermountain West and upper Great Plains.
Finally, in a poll commissioned by Jerry Falwell's Liberty University, one further poll shows Jesus Christ, were he the Democratic candidate for President this fall, would defeat McCain by the largest margin yet, 73-24. Christ, the poll indicates, would not only run particularly strongly in the South, but reaches deeply into McCain's Republican base, attracting the great majority of evangelical voters, while also holding onto antiwar voters in the Democratic base, given his preaching to "turn the other cheek" and his promotion of politically controversial commandments, including not killing one's fellow man.
National party head Howard Dean quickly pointed to each poll as a sign of Democratic strength this fall: "The Democratic Party has great bench strength in this cycle. Not only will our actual candidate, Barack Obama, win the Presidency this year, but the great excitement surrounding the array of hypothetical noncandidates around whom polling is being conducted show that 2008 is a great Democratic year."
RNC spokesperson Tammy Viner shot back: "Jim Webb may have crossed over party lines for expediency, but we resent the suggestion that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ belongs to any one party, unless of course that party is the Republican Party. Aqua-Man, we concede, is a Democrat, though constitutionally ineligible for the Presidency because he was born at sea, as anyone knows. And Hillary Clinton, well . . ."








Comments (64)
I give this a 9.2.
May 22, 2008 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now that Obama has reportedly ruled out Hillary as his VP nominee (see The Field), I think Jesus merits serious consideration.
Such a pick would lay to rest forever the notion that Obama is a Muslim.
Unfortunately, Jesus's birth outside the United States would seem to disqualify Him -- unless He were to miraculously change the constitution.
On the other hand, His miraculous powers could raise some fairness issues, especially in states that still use Diebold voting machines.
To be on the safe side, maybe Obama should stick with Jim Webb.
May 22, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh you of Atlantic Canada, based on prior comments, and lawyer, based on this, I think you are wrong as a matter of U.S. Constitutional Law. Here's my theory: even if you read native-born persons eligible for the Presidency to include only those born in the colonies, a divine immortal personage born before the colonies were founded was not meant to be excluded. It's a Framers' intent issue. No one seems to have a church state problem with it, though . . . might violate the Establishment Clause, eh?
Now I'll retire to have some donair.
Donair is so gross!
May 23, 2008 12:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, according to John 1-2 Jesus has existed since "the beginning" and since the beginning has been "with God," i.e. everywhere that God was and in fact "was God." So if God has always been everywhere, then J.C. has always been everywhere, including the U.S. of A., and being native-born should not be a problem. I agree that it is an original intent issue, i.e. whether the Framers would have considered that existence from when the earth was without form and void is the functional equiavalent of being born in that part of the primordial chaos that is now the United States.
May 23, 2008 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I shouldn't have to tell you this, articleman, but Aquaman (not Aqua-Man) is a DC comic creation. He was not born at sea, but on dry land, so he is eligible for the presidency.
You may be thinking of Namor, the Sub-Mariner, who was born at sea and who was a Marvel creation.
Obama/Aquaman '08!
May 22, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I knew you learned something at Yale.
May 22, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
YOU may know that, but the RNC does not.
May 22, 2008 9:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Beatles, however, out-polled Jesus 52 to 48. It seems that John was right after all.
May 22, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Beatles platform of "All you need is love." Sent stocks plummeting as a paper fiat currency is replaced with hug-coins and positive attitude margins.
May 23, 2008 9:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Jesus never went to the bathroom.
May 22, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Neither did John Lennon.
May 22, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Snarky goodness.
Obama/Jesus '08!
May 22, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
And I read that the deceased Playmate and Bimbo, Anna Nicole Smith, outpolls both Roosevelt and Jesus Christ by substantial margins for any damn office or purpose whatsoever!
and articleman, I think I officially fell in love with you for this post.
May 22, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
O Tena!
Oddly, Anna is in one of my most favorite movies, Hudsucker Proxy.
But you have my vote over her, every day of the week and thrice on Sunday.
Sincerely,
President John Adams.
May 22, 2008 8:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
O don't make me have to rethink that peevish, vain old woman, Adams.
;)
May 22, 2008 8:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Bache called him the hideous hermaphroditic creature, possessing neither the firmness and solidity of the male, nor the softness and grace of the female, or some such.
Your ass is still sore over the Alien and Sedition Act.
Just wait until I write a post as Adams comparing Jefferson to Bill Clinton. You'll hate that, you Jefferson lover.
May 23, 2008 12:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
*blink, blink*
She is?
She's not a Muncie girl...what was she?
May 22, 2008 11:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's the girlfriend of the elevator operator, mostly sticks out her ample breasts. I think she speaks once. It was sad, the way she was typecast as a large-breasted woman.
She never got to play Marie Curie, or got into any adaptation of Bronte.
Shit, I'm doing that culture reference thing.
I hope Edmund isn't listening.
May 22, 2008 11:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd just like to point to a recent poll by the Daily Bugle which puts Tony Stark ahead of John McCain by a margin of 52-39% nationally.
May 22, 2008 8:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Stop already! Your killin me!
May 22, 2008 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Marvel Comics superhero Aqua-Man? BZZZZZT! He's DC. Satire is better when it's well-researched.
May 22, 2008 9:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd like to thank southsidered and and Allsberg for the two Xander and Andrew moments.
May 22, 2008 9:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
And Allsburg did excellent work replacing that window sash....
May 22, 2008 11:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your comment is Marvelous!
May 22, 2008 9:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm glad articleman made this error on the internet, where he could be corrected, many times.
Do I have to spell it out?
N E R D S !
May 23, 2008 9:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, any fine research library can be found to house the appropriate cache of comic books on which this matter could have been easily settled. A pox upon your house, articleman!
May 23, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Articleman regrets the error, but regrets the pox a lot more.
May 23, 2008 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Didn't Jesus have a relationship with some Galilean prostitute? As the Spitzer case would indicate, that would probably disqualify him as VP.
May 22, 2008 10:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
As with Kennedy, it was before YouTube. I think he'd do fine.
May 22, 2008 11:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought she appeared in one of those "Gospels Gone Wild" videos -- Spring Break at the Dead Sea. wasn't it?
May 23, 2008 9:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
She was not a prostitute. Besides, Jesus was a single man of a certain age.
McCain, however, has been known to date strippers.
May 23, 2008 12:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think Jesus might enjoy having the opportunity to renounce and deject (or whatever) a few pastors.
May 22, 2008 11:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
hitlerhitlerhitlerhitlerhitlerhitlerhitler
May 22, 2008 11:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sweet Georgia Brown! Is that.. yes, I believe he's pulled off the Septuple Hitler!
May 23, 2008 2:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Or, as the CNN crawler had it last night, "Hilter."
May 23, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
At least they got closer than Nostradamus.
May 23, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
OMG! That's from the Monty Python sketch where Hitler and his chief henchmen were living in a boarding house in London under obvious psudonyms--Hilter, Bimmler, etc.--trying to gin up support for National Bociialism in the next Parlimentary elections.
May 23, 2008 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Article-Man
Aqua-Man
hmmm... Siblings?
I'd vote for Aqua-Man. At any time. If he ran.
Also, the Repukes have it wrong. I knew Jesus and he were no Repuke.
May 23, 2008 12:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
The problem is, he swims more than he runs, and Nebraska has few navigable waterways, so he's swimming upstream, both literally and figuratively in NE.
May 23, 2008 12:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nebraska? How'd he get to NE? Was he riding Mr. Crankypants' tales?
Still, Aqua-Man, he has *such* nice muscles... ;)
May 23, 2008 1:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
He'd have to enter the Mississippi Delta, swim northward to St. Louis in the mighty Mississip, head west through the Missouri River to Omaha, and there indulge your feminine wiles with his rippling musculature.
May 23, 2008 1:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's a lot of work for Aqua-Man, only I don’t live in NE. That was just Mr. Crankypants' strangeness. BTW, is Aqua-Man still part of the Justice League? That's really where I first met him. I'm really just a small town NoCal girl at heart, although I don't live there anymore either. Hence, can claim without any shame to being easily swayed by muscles, particularly the ones between the ears. And Aqua-Man always struck me as smart, as does Wolverine.
May 23, 2008 1:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's noted your adoration for his withered husk. It will be tough, you choosing among Edmund and Aqua-Man. They offer such a contrast in styles.
May 23, 2008 1:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!!
Oy. you funny.
I'm out. Got an early day.
Good night, Arti.
May 23, 2008 1:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
According to a recent Gallup poll, 7 out of 10 Americans feel that Senator and Mrs. John Blutarsky would be better good will ambassadors to the world than the Obamas.
May 23, 2008 12:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Istanbul (Not Constantinople) says Articleman.
And the other night, there was thepuppethead.
So much TMBG, so little time, y'all.
May 23, 2008 12:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
The problem is, he swims more than he runs, and Nebraska has few navigable waterways, so he's swimming upstream, both literally and figuratively in NE.
May 23, 2008 12:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't believe Jesus would beat John McCain with the evangelical vote. Call me a cynic. KY and WV would vote for McCain even if Jesus was the other candidate.
May 23, 2008 2:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
You are so right. Jesus would get very few Republican votes, and he wouldn't do well with independents or wine-track Democrats either. Frankly, I think he'd have a hard time breaking out of the African-American demographic.
May 23, 2008 2:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
I was in prison and you visited me? I got kids to take to soccer practice buddy-- I don't have time to chit chat with rapists and thieves (get a job!).
May 23, 2008 3:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Something tells me they'd call Jesus a liberal.
May 23, 2008 2:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
A most entertaining thread. And This from an Obama supporter. ;-)
Robert
May 23, 2008 5:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bah Humbug!
Jesus is not tough enough to be president! He doesn't have a plan and he's not ready on Day One!
What's his position on trade, huh!?
May 23, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Unfortunately, Jesus won't be able to run from his record on the issues of the day. What are his biggest accomplishments? Dispensing free universal health care and free food. Getting arrested, convicted and strung up with common criminals. Telling people to turn the other cheek. How can we trust him to fight the war on terror?
Not only that, the Republicans have a TV ad attacking Jesus, ready to roll if he should be nominated. Here it is: http://www.revver.com/video/1996/bushjesus2/
Summary: Jesus of Nazareth ...
Wrong on social services
Wrong on crime
Wrong on defense
Wrong for America.
May 23, 2008 11:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
The moneychangers will line up behind McCain.
May 23, 2008 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Reading this thread late, but that... was delicious.
May 23, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jesus appeases.
"You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.' But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you."
—Matthew 5:38-42, NIV
May 23, 2008 11:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Jesus appeases" -- good sound bite!
May 23, 2008 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would LOVE to see the smear ads the Republicans would run against Jesus. Disco balls? Prostitutes hanging out at wells? BLACK PEOPLE?!?!?!
May 23, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the woman hanging out at the well was a Samaritan, probably an immigrant, had had five "husbands" and was living in sin with yet another dude. She was hanging out at the well at the "sixth hour," which sounds to me as though she didn't have a regular job. Probably she and her "husbands" were all welfare cheats. But apparently she helped Jesus get the Samaritan vote.
May 23, 2008 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Was she the leader of the "polyandryus women for Jesus" movement?
May 23, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now that would be really "slicing and dicing" the electorate. But I think Jesus would definitely attract the women's vote. Women were receptive to his "message" and stood by him while the guys were betraying him for 30 pieces of silver and denouncing and rejecting him 3 times before the cock crowed, and stuff like that.
May 23, 2008 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Note to self, this one went to 1, albeit on a slower day.
May 23, 2008 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
FDR was a professed nazi and an open communist, says Glenn Beck and Jonah Goldberg (The Great True Prophet!) this may not be acceptable for some voters but it would pull FDR ahead of Jesus in the national polls.
Also, I think Glenn Beck and Prophet Goldberg would make *Excellent* Hillary campaign advisors.
May 23, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
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