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Kentucky - Myth&Reality

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In the aftermath of Sen. Clinton's 250k win there, there has been considerable  commentary about various aspects of the state, the campaign, lessons to be drawn, etc. - some on the mark, more that is highly questionable, some comically ignorant. As one who has connections and roots in KY, and feels that he knows a thing or two about the place, let me try to address a few misconceptions as I see them -  I think it's important to base political strategy on actual TRUTHS as best you can, and not fall victim to perhaps comforting stereotypes, distortions, and myths:

(1)KY is not an "Appalachian" state, in the sense that neighboring WV is. KY has a large Appalachian region in its eastern third, but the remainder of the state is as different from that region as anywhere else in the country (in that sense, it has more in common with Virginia or North Carolina): Northern KY is basically Cinncinnati suburbs - the Ohio River is far  more of an influence there than the Appalachian Mountains. Louisville is widely regarded as one of the more progressive and cultured medium-sized cities in the country.  The central Bluegrass area around Lexington is either "college  town" , USA(7 or so in the general area), or alternatively, semi-aristocratic horse farm country. The approximate western third has its own culture and style, very different from the rest - almost Mid-Western in outlook.

(2)KY is not a "racist" state. Certainly there are racists there, but racial relations in general would stand well by comparison with either the Deep South or the big industrial northern cities.  It seems to me that this would be such a self-evident fact under normal circumstances, that I'm unsure how to debate it.

(3)KY is not a "Republican" state.  There has been ONE Republican governor there in the last 40 years (he was dismissed after one term in 2007).  The recent tendency in federal elections has been back toward Democrats, after a drift the other way going back to Reagan. The local apparatus (the Southeast excepted) is (and always has been) primarily Democratic. When the national Democratic Party gets a candidate in there who knows how to TALK to these voters (or even just CARES about talking to them), he wins. Bill Clinton did it twice. GW Bush (whatever his faults) did it twice as well. These guys know HOW to do it.

(4)Hillary Clinton most certainly COULD win KY, against Sen. McCain or any other Republican. To just dismiss it as "lost" for ANY Democrat is totally misguided.  I spent a lot of time "out there" during the recent Primary run-up. The Clintons in full campaign mode in that kind of setting are truly something to behold. I personally think Bill is more popular there than he ever was, and the Clintons (ALL of them) are the hardest working and most energetic political people I have ever seen. The 1992-2000 era is nearly universally regarded as some of the best times in the history of the state  (EXPLOSIVE applause every time it comes up).
 

Enough said. God forbid this should sound like one of those Chamber of Commerce brochures -  I'm personally indifferent to "image". People who live or spend time anywhere know it for what it is, and aren't much swayed by testimonials. My purpose here is plainly and simply to shine a light on some of the pertinent facts as I see them. If  I succeed in that effort, then Sen. Obama's advisers can't say they weren't told.


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My view of Kentucky, perhaps more recent, is quite a bit bleaker than yours. Make of it what you will but the three progressive not-so-weak-holds you identified are the ones where Obama ran strongest and I think he might even have won Louisville (which is pronounced Lou-vll, by the way, not Louie-ville in case any talking heads are reading this) and Clinton ran strongest in the tentatively Appalachian 5th Congressional District.

I would posit that KY is not so much conservative as it is just plain southern democratic (although Northern Kentucky does proudly house the Creationist Museum.) Call it 'unfamiliarity' or 'being rooted in their ways' if you will but the end result is the same.

When 50,000 people don't have a problem saying they wouldn't vote for a person because of how much melanin he has in his skin, I would call that pretty racist.

It's true, but we have to not equate a part with the whole. Same mistake was made in WV. Saying a state has a significant number of voters who seemed to vote on the basis of race against a black candidate is different than calling an entire state racist.

Absolutely. This cannot be said enough, so I'll say it again: "Saying a state has a significant number of voters who seemed to vote on the basis of race against a black candidate is different than calling an entire state racist."

And one_wilson, thanks for keeping it classy, even when you're grossly out-numbered. (On this site, that is.)

As I noted on my own blog post (not to plug it or anything), I'm from Kentucky as well. Could Hillary win it? Dunno. I think most Kentuckians are like my Dad, they'll vote Democratic for every state office and then some Jekyl and Hyde thing happens when they get to the federal side races. Maybe if they had them all in the same year, it would help.

But, regardless, I really don't give a rat's ass whether Hillary can carry Kentucky and Obama can't given that Obama puts a bunch of states into play that Hillary can't, including several on the other side of the Mississippi and North Carolina and Virginia.

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No, Obama does not put Virginia in play. Obama makes Virginia a guaranteed red state. I've met more racists in Virginia than anywhere else.

Virginia is where my landlord put a Apt. For Rent sign on his front yard instead of an ad in the paper so he could see the skin color of his potential tenants before showing them the apartment (which I learned well after the fact of renting from him).

Virginia is where I learned from a co-worker that petunias are shunned by whites because they still carry the stigma of being the only flower that sharecropping blacks could afford to plant in their yards. Virginia is where I learned you could tell a black person's house from a white person's house because of the petunias in the front yard. Doesn't matter if this is no longer true; what matters is that someone told me this.

Virginia is where I learned that many white people won't take service jobs because those are jobs for black people. As a white person, you can serve your country but you should not degrade yourself by working as a "servant."

The First Families of Virginia/Daughters of the American Revolution/Colonial purity/Confederate mentality is alive and thriving in Virginia. Sorry, but Virginia is not in play in the GE.

I'd beg to differ on this one. Sure, there are several racists in Virginia (there are everywhere), but there's also a reason Obama carried this state by an overwhelming margin. He'll bring out voters that have previously stayed home. Hopefully, he'll bring out enough to swing us blue.

Virginia also elected the first Black governor since reconstruction.....who,BTW, is now mayor of its largest city!

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