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I do not know which offends me more Hillary's reference to Robert Kennedy's assassination or her non-apology.  "I regret IF  . . . .I in any way offended."
When you have made a deeply offensive remark no matter how innocently you say unequivocally:  I apology. My remark was inexcusable and cruel.
This is a character flaw of the deepest kind: the inability to accept blame and responsibility. The press should not offer any excuses for her.
She should not be president and after this should most certainly not be considered for Obama's VP.  There is no defense Hillary or her supporters can offer at this point.


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I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the actual verbal gaffe, but the non-apology apology is much worse, because it shows her to be just like Dubya and the Bushies and their inability to admit and/or recognize their mistakes.

So when Obama said "obviously, if I worded things in a way that made people offended, I deeply regret that" in reference to blue collar whites clinging to guns and religion, did you reject and renounce his apology?

I agreed with the sentiment behind his words, but his wording was "flawed" in the sense that he used "cling". So no, I do not denounce and reject his apology.

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My heart goes out to this woman. As a psychiatrist I will be recommending to my colleagues when we meet later this year for our annual conference the additio of a new diagnosis in the DMV IV manual

Diagnosis: Post traumatic campaign syndrom.

Manifestations:
Acute phase: Patient shows signs of withdrawal from reality following an unexpected campaign turnout. He/she refuses to accept the outcome and constantly moves the goal post. He/She starts to say things that don't make sense. She shows signs of desperation and of depression. These people are strong minded individuals constitutionally incapable of accepting defeat

Chronic Phase.
The patient is so out of touch that nobody will consider them for elected office anymore. They often end up isolated for a dream not achieved.

Treatment:
Acute phase: Someone astute enough, preferably a close loved one should gently but forcefully force them out of the campaign
Chronic: Take her to meet the person who defeated her.

This phenomenon was first described by this author and is copyrighted.

Months ago here, I did a simply narcissistic analysis of Hillary: she fits the personality disorder to a tee.

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I watched the entire interview live, and I took Clinton's comment about RFK to serve as an example of someone who was still campaigning in June. My impression has been confirmed by the campaign's elaboration of Clinton's comment:

Earlier today I was discussing the Democratic primary history and in the course of that discussion mentioned the campaigns that both my husband and Senator Kennedy waged in California in June 1992 and 1968, and I was referencing those to make the point that we have had nomination primary contests that go into June. That's a historic fact. The Kennedys have been much on my mind the last days because of Senator Kennedy and I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that, whatsoever. My view is that we have to look to the past and to our leaders who have inspired us and give us a lot to live up to, and I'm honored to hold Senator Kennedy's seat in the United States Senate from the state of New York and have the highest regard for the entire Kennedy family.

What's exactly offends you? You simply level charges of a character flaw without an explanation. Please share. Thanks.

And you defended Clinton's twisting of Obama's "bitter" statements and can't simply understand what Michelle Obama meant when she said that the high involvement in this primary made her really proud of her country for the first time.

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You're confusing me with someone else. I have never mentioned Michelle's pride in America comment. I have studiously avoided it.

Since you got that wrong about me, I can't know what you imagine I said about Obama's "bitter" statement.

Also, these are unrelated distractions from my questions. I asked first. I'm still waiting to hear answers. Thanks.

Not only was her apology to the Kennedys a tepid one, but the main offense was to Obama because of the threats he has received and because he is the only other candidate remaining in the race whose assassination would provide her with the opportunity to get the nomination unopposed. This is clearly what she was saying: that "who knows?", [something] might happen and the nomination would be mine.

Next, she says the Kennedys have been on her mind because of Teddy, but she made the same comment about Bill and RFK on March 6 in a Time Magazine interview. What was on her mind when she said that? http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/05/hillarys_bizarre_rfk_comment.html

There is not much question in anyone's mind what she meant. If you want to give her the benefit of the doubt and say that it was not meant in a malicious way, that's fine. But saying she was just talking about the length of campaigns is naive at best.

Clinton/Huckabee, 08'?

That is great!! Thanks for making me laugh when I am about as angry as I can be about what Sentor Clinton has said this time and the people that are defending her.
And Cheney will be thier target practice coach!

I agree; a true apology does not contain the word "if". Her "apology" after Bill's remarks in South Carolina (which may or may not have been offensive) was similar "I regret anything my husband may have said if it offended anyone" or something along those lines. When you say "if" it shifts the responsibility from you onto the person who was wronged and implies that if they weren't so sensitive they wouldn't have been offended at all. Now I don't remember exactly what Bill said in South Carolina and maybe there really wasn't anything a sensible person should have been bothered by, but if there was, he should have owned up to it and made a real apology, she shouldn't have made that bogus one.

As far as this assassination business goes, at first I thought it was silly until I heard that she has referred to it more than once and now I'm starting to wonder. I also believe that she calculates almost everything that comes out of her mouth.

This. I agree with.

She's not stupid and she's said it before, it wasn't picked up by MSM. Mentioning a nomination being extended to June could have been left at that; however, she continued on with the "assassination" statement.

It goes to her "anything could happen" statements. In other words, something could happen to him; therefore, I should stay in the race. This is not a good reason to stay in, like an understudy hoping the lead breaks a leg.

The mark of someone who is really ready to be president -- particularly in this day and age of universal deceit -- it that when they fuck up they own up to it.

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Isn't this the type of gaffe that the more experienced, vetted candidate doesn't make on the campaign trail? If this were the general election Fox News commentators would rip Sen. Clinton apart for a week over a mistake such as this.

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...and instead of working to adjust and recover politically from it, she would just brand them all as mysoginists but end up compounding the damage when it's pointed out how she fawned over them in the primary...

Everyone seems so sanctimonious about this latest revealing gaffe by Billary.

As Barack stated eloquently a couple of weeks ago we got to lay off the gaffes and blunders and keep focused on the real issues, keep focused on the prize.

Hillary makes plenty of gaffes and blunders; Barack does too.

But these are Democrats -- what do you expect? I mean that. Are you really suprised Hillary said something like this? Furtermore, the poor woman is clearly totally sleep deprived, exhausted. Give her a break!

And besides, who really cares what this woman says at this point anyway?

Instead focus all energies on getting Barack elected in November. Nevermind the gaffes and the stupidities -- after all, these are Democrats!

Instead, keep your eyes on the prize!

She's exhausted, is she? I'm afraid that can only mean one thing - she's not capable of handling the campaigning, let alone the presidency. She needs to quit, yesterday.

When you're coming up with excuses, you have to be careful.

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how is it acceptable or forgivable for a presidential candidate to imply in such a blatant way that the reason he/she is staying in the race is that the frontrunner has a chance of being assassinated?

The thing that is most despicable about her non-apology? It's directed at the Kennedys. There's no pretense of non-apologizing to Obama's wife and daughters.

She's a pig. No getting around it. And if she weren't a Clinton, the press would be calling it like it is.

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I'm sorry I would love to give her the benefit of the doubt here and say she was just referring to campaigns that went into June. Unfortunately there are a few problems with this defense, the first being that the primary season that ended with Bill winning the nomination started later than this one so if you comparing actual time instead of just the name of the months if by the standards of this primary battle bill wouldn't have secured the nomination until august. Second if all she wanted to do was refer to RFK winning the California primary in June then that is what she should have said, I'm pretty sure everyone knows how that ended without her mentioning it. It is true that something bad could happen at anytime to anyone of the candidates but to use that as a reason for staying in the race is absurd. She has run out of time money and now it appears decency, as a woman I am appalled at the thought that she presumes to speak for me, she does not, now or anytime in the future.

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My feelings don't accept her apology.

She apologized--to the Kennedy's.

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I've noticed this pattern for a long time.

Hillary never admits fault and never apologizes for anything. The words "I'm sorry" never pass her lips, and non-apologies are always couched in the context of "if I was misunderstood as saying .... I regret that".

She can't apologize because her whole psyche is built upon the idea of being a victim, of having enemies out to get her.

Think of how she smeared the reputation of female victims of her sexual predator husband. Think of how little sympathy she felt for these women and how she will never look back with regret.

Think of the 12 year old rape victim who she claimed fantasized about older men, and therefore wasn't really raped. She shamed that girl and her mother into withdrawing charges. The woman's life was ruined. I'm sure Hillary never regrets or feels guilt for that either.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is recognized in persons exhibiting 5 or more of the following traits:

1. Feels grandiose and self-important (e.g., exaggerates accomplishments, talents, skills, contacts, and personality traits to the point of lying, demands to be recognised as superior without commensurate achievements).

2. Is obsessed with fantasies of unlimited success, fame, fearsome power or omnipotence, unequalled brilliance (the cerebral narcissist), bodily beauty or sexual performance (the somatic narcissist), or ideal, everlasting, all-conquering love or passion.

3. Firmly convinced that he or she is unique and, being special, can only be understood by, should only be treated by, or associate with, other special or unique, or high-status people (or institutions)

4. Requires excessive admiration, adulation, attention and affirmation – or, failing that, wishes to be feared and to be notorious (Narcissistic Supply)

5. Feels entitled. Demands automatic and full compliance with his or her unreasonable expectations for special and favourable priority treatment.

6. Is "interpersonally exploitative", i.e., uses others to achieve his or her own ends.

7. Devoid of empathy. Is unable or unwilling to identify with, acknowledge, or accept the feelings, needs, preferences, priorities, and choices of others.

8. Constantly envious of others and seeks to hurt or destroy the objects of his or her frustration. Suffers from persecutory (paranoid) delusions as he or she believes that they feel the same about him or her and are likely to act similarly.

9. Behaves arrogantly and haughtily. Feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, "above the law", and omnipresent (magical thinking). Rages when frustrated, contradicted, or confronted by people he or she considers inferior to him or her and unworthy.

Both Hillary and Bill fit. Marriage made in heaven, eh.

I only saw one clip of her apology. Was she giving it in a liquor store? Or was there another clip?

It was a grocery store in SD. That's all she has said about it.

Thanks.

I thought it was a liquor store too, but then when I looked closer, they were salad dressing bottles. Go back & look again.

I guess I feel better about it then. I thought they were bottles of rum. Calling Pirate Peet!

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I'll give Hillary a break as soon as she gives all of us a break and quits her vanity campaign. If she's going to put herself out there the way she has, she deserves the same kind of scrutiny to her comments that she helped apply onto Barack the past few months.

At least that's my position until she gives a *real* apology, not this "I regret if you are too sensitive to get my real meaning" pseudo-apology.

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