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Hillary denied her victory lap

May 15, 2008

I just heard Lanny Davis on the Ed Schultz show saying that they were disappointed in Edwards & Obama for denying Hillary at least one victory lap on Wednesday.  So, one of the main Hillary arguments against Obama is that he isn't tough enough to win in the general.  He then steps up and bludgeons her with an amazingly effective tactical move and now they're all touchy-feely about how that wasn't nice.

If you can't take the heat then get out of the kitchen :)


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If you can't take the heat, put the sink down, and get out of the kitchen. :)

Great line!

Lanny, Lanny, Lanny...whiner extraordinaire. He must have been incredibly irritating as a child.

Among the mysteries of the Clinton campaign is why she surrounded herself with such a thoroughly unlikeable cast of characters.

They're likeable enough.

When I first saw Mark Penn on TV representing Hillary, next to Joe Trippi and David Axelrod, I was floored. THIS is the guy you choose to be the face of your campaign on TV? Him?

Even if Penn had been a great strategist (ha), why not keep him behind closed doors and put out someone who had some kind of adequate socialization in his/her life?

I know they're the other team and it's no wonder I find Clinton's team sort of repulsive, but Kiki, Wolfson, Penn, McCauliffe? Truly, the mind boggles...

Schultz doesn't air here until the afternoon. I hope I get to hear that!

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I believe that Lanny embodies the emotions behind Hillary's tough facade. I think that this will get uglier still.

Larry needs some cajones. we are at the stage that even her victories are meaningless. She wins WV and he comes out with NARAL and Edwards and more and more, it's starting to pile up....Davis should blame the MSM for not really covering her victory, not Obama for being smarter and better and having more support. She could have followed up WV with endorsements from NARAL and Edwards and that might have given her some momentum, but wait? They don't support her.

Edwards was just making sure Hillary wasn't the only candidate in the MSM VP campaign...

Lanny Davis.

Perfect!

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The true sign of a bully: bloody the opponent up, and then whine when it's done to you.

He proved exactly what he set out to prove: I'm smart when I'm tough, not just tough. It's a message to the Repubs that they will have no idea how to run against this guy.

John Edwards' message: I said I would endorse when the race was over. The race is over and it's time to unify.

Is she still here?

The best thing about this ending soon: no more Lanny Davis, Wolfson and McAuliffe.

The best thing about this ending soon: no more Lanny Davis, Wolfson and McAuliffe.

Boy, howdy. Gotta agree with you on that.

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Another thought: you have to earn decent treatment. Even Paul Begala, who I always believed was a decent guy, came out today in defense of Obama and vehemently against Bush's outrageous comments at the Knesset. It reminded me of what decent political discourse was. Of course you want to win, but there are time you support or defend your party's ideals against outrageous attacks. Hillary should have done that after the speech on race. Anyone vying for Leader of the Free World would have recognized the importance of standing up for basic decency, and in defense of basic Democratic party ideals. But she did not.

Paul Begala did today. Hillary and Bill Clinton are still silent. They have no moral authority to run a local coffee shop, much less the United States.

Thanks, Paul. Obama would have done it for you and your candidate, in a heartbeat.

Guess what? Hillary did come out and defend Obama on that one. There's a different tone a brewin.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Clinton_defends_Obama_from_Bush.html

My apologies for the cut and paste url, I have yet to figure out how to embed the links.

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Lanny Davis makes all his arguments with venom dripping from his lips. He doesn't hide his anger well, but he's the spokesperson.

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It was petty, and proved that he's using "old Washington tactics" - 3 cheers for the candidate of change!!!

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Losers are people who celebrate a touchdown and talk trash in the final seconds of the game when they're down by 21. SCOREBOARD!!! Deal with it. That's what happens when you're a candidate that has been so ungraceful.

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Generally, a victory must be won before a victory lap is taken. I guess Hillary's high-paid "advisors" are entitled to take such a lap, as they and the PR. firms they own/employ are still making big bank from this sham. I feel bad for her supporters who donated time and money to watch this sad display.She'll pay herself back for the "loans" with their hard-earned donations. No Victory Lap for Tuzla Annie, how about a real democratic challenger for her senate seat?

Hey, beard. Don't I know you? ;-)

The guy who is attached to you is performing in my city tonight. Are you going to be there too?

The Obama campaign's tactical move was indeed tough, but this kind of campaign hardball doesn't bother me. What nauseates me is when candidates use innuendo or lies to dirty each other up. Feh.

:)

I scored a layup, and while I was celebrating, Obama dunked over me! Then the buzzer went off, and the game was over! No fair!

Love it!!!

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The problem, dear Billy, is not that someone phoned Ed Schultz to complain about how Obama "bludgeoned" Hillary. The problem is that Obama bludgeoned his opponent at the very time that many of her supporters were starting the process of trying to find a way to support a man they don't support, and perhaps distrust, resent, or even detest. An "amazingly effective tactical move" toward crushing his opponent? Yes. An "amazingly effective tactical move" toward securing the other half of the Democratic vote that he absolutely must have? No.

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guess Obama's copy of "Hilarry's Rules of Civil Discourse" musta got lost.

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PS. Don't listen to Ed Schultz. He's a hick.

Wahhhhh!
Wahhhhhh!
Cry me a river!
It's O-V-E-R!

857,000 people showed up on January 29 to vote for Hillary, another 818,000 showed up to vote for Edwards and Obama. The national press simply decided to ignore it, to completely disregard the action of almost 1.7 million voters. Which of course was a huge gift to Obama going into Super Tuesday, not having to defend his 33% showing. It's not often that the press ignores 1.7 million people voting, especially if you consider the glee they have in posting polls with tiny samplings that are a much poorer guide than 1.7 million people physically going to the polls to choose.

Two days before the Wisconsin primary, Michelle made her "first time proud of America" gaffe - well, not really a "gaffe", it was a repeated part of her stump speech that day, so part of the blame goes to her staff/writers. A large number of news outlets decided to ignore it, outlets that had no problem carrying "Jesse" and "Fairy Tale" analysis, who carried Hillary's welling up, who have no problem discussing whether Bill would be controllable in the White House, and so on. But fortunately for Obama, the issue got tamped down quite a bit and he went on to do well in Wisconsin.

So now Obama got a quarter of the vote in West Virginia, Hillary got 2/3, and Edwards even got 7% (must be his week). That's the biggest blowout of any primary, but the press was already prepared to dismiss it as just being white people voting. (Funny, I remember all the praise about how well Obama did in some rural areas in Iowa and Nevada, and now it seems it like it doesn't matter again). The choice of 239K Hillary supporters and 92K Obama supporters and 26K Edwards supporters doesn't matter, because the press has decided that the contest is over, that the Democrats still offering these quaint elections is just a fraud. Edwards giving his endorsement to Obama the same day as these results is especially insulting to those 26,000 West Virginians who voted for him, but it's an insult to the process itself. If West Virginia didn't matter, why didn't he endorse before it? Maybe Edwards thought it would be embarrassing to show how little effect his endorsement would have on West Virginia - a demographic that might be quite similar to his support in North Carolina. Or after playing Hamlet for so long he thought this was the best bang he could get for his buck, a convenient bump for his new BFF. What does this mean for the Democrats who are always praising the "50 state strategy", now that we're down to 47? What's Dean going to say to West Virginia and Kentucky when they say they want a January primary in 2008? "Sorry, we weren't talking about *those* kind of voters"?

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You have strung together words in things that look like sentences. Yet said nothing, really. Who the hell are you with this Kevin James view of history?? There are rules. They were agreed to. And now you're complaining b/c the Microsoft of Democratic politics is going down in flames.

If only.....If only...If only....she had been a better candidate.

She's been a fine candidate - even leading in popular vote if you include Florida and Michigan, pulling out impressive wins in big states even with big guns like Kerry and Kennedy working against her, though not doing terribly well in caucuses.

Has her performance been uneven? Sure, as has Obama's. Should she have split with Mark Penn and changed her management team earlier? Quite likely, primarily because they didn't seem to react quickly, not necessarily because the overall strategy was so flawed. People seem to ignore big issues, such as that Obama was essentially tied with Hillary in the polls as early as February 2007, that only 52% of voters were "extremely comfortable" with a female President as of last July, and that Hillary has had to work through her negatives with a press giving prime time to every smear and slur out of Bernstein, WaPo (cleavage, anyone?), Chris Matthews, etc.

Here's an article out of "Time, April 2007, to give you some idea of what she's been facing since early last year, contrary to the "inevitable" spin that actually came out of the Obama camp.

And by the way, where's the rule that says "the campaign's over when one candidate is ahead"? Or that if it looks bleak everyone must go home? And that you cancel all the last contests because someone thinks it might be "bad for the party"? (As if ignoring white voters is somehow good for the party). Here's my summary from yesterday on why Hillary's still running.

When you pull the Florida and Michigan nonsense, you lose any credibility.

Regardless of how the vote goes, Hillary is more than happy to let the super delegates over rule the will of the voters and give the win to her even though Obama is winning. But I bet that is just fine with you, right?

The voters of WV spoke, and while what they said with their vote is important, it has to be taken in the context that WV is not the state that gets to decide the winner. They are only one state of many, and a very small one at that. You are acting like 'well, the picked Hillary, so Hillary wins it all!', when you know that is only wishful thinking.

Obama beat Hillary, fair and square. You can whine and sob all you want, but he won because he went out and worked for each vote he got. Hillary's team spent their cash like there was no tomorrow, paid themselves well and had a real good time. Why not? They expected the coffers to be overflowing when she racked up her inevitable wins on Super Tuesday in February. No need for a plan B, Hillary was the inevitable winner. As she herself said, it would be over on Super Tuesday.

Well, she was right in that respect. It has been over since then, but she refuses to admit it. The inevitable wins on Super Tuesday did not materialize. Obama had the audacity to actually go out and campaign, and he won. His team put together a plan, and they handled everything as it came to them. No ducking, they dealt with it up front and right away. While I am sure Hillary and her campaign people were patting themselves on the back every time they launched another attack on Obama, the fact that he handled all of it as well as he did only impressed people.

While everyone was rubbing their hands together, gloating that 'this will bring him down', he kept at it and did not give up, and he has been in front ever since. Hillary came in to the contest with a clear lead via the super delegates, and once Obama passed her he has not had to look back once.

Hash it out any way you want, but Hillary, having every advantage a candidate could want, lost to this guy out of nowhere. Why? If Hillary is so great, why is Obama winning?

Because he is the more skillful candidate. He surrounded himself with effective people who were not out to get rich off his donors, but rather they used the money wisely and planned well. They knew they were not a shoo-in for the win, so they worked their rears off and it paid off.

They earned their win, like any competent candidate will do. Now Hillary and her supporters want the win given to her. No way. She had her chance, and she blew it.

If you want to delve in to the Hillary supporters who say that they will vote for McCain, all I can say to that is if anyone is stupid enough to cut their nose off to spite their face, then I say let them do it. They deserve whatever they get out of it.

If they think McCain will be better than Obama, then they are not Democrats. When I see some moron post that they are a life-long Democrat but that they will quit the party and vote for McCain if Hillary is not the candidate, the first thing that comes to mind is 'that is a republican ratf*cker'.

That is no Democrat. No Democrat would vote for McCain after all the Republicans have done to our country and the rest of the world. Only a Republican would, or a very stupid Democrat.

Obamas been outspending her sometimes 5:1 and still losing. When will you start criticizing his spending habits?

Every campaign manager looks brilliant when he's winning. Obama outspent Hillary 2:1 in West Virginia to only get 25% of the vote. Pathetic. I admit he almost caught her in Indiana, but it's that "almost" that hurts - plus how much did he spend on Chicago media ads? How bad do you think he'd do in Florida at this point? No longer the fresh new guy, but instead the one with all that baggage that can't appeal to Hispanics and doesn't like old people? I figure that's why he wasn't for a do-over.

Anyway, it's over when it's over.

If Obama is outspending her, and he is not out of money, what is the problem? He can spend the money any way he determines is necessary, and I think he has done a fine job. Even if he has to outspend her and lose the state, he is forcing her to do the same to keep up. That is the way the 'game' is played.

From the way you sound, the problem is that he outspent her and contrary to what you said, he IS winning. Not every single contest, but the overall contest. Hillary ran out of money after Super Tuesday in February, and it has been confirmed that she is about $20 million in the hole now. Obama has not only collected more money from more donors, his donors are far from tapped out.

A wide base giving small amounts will generate more than a small base giving their maximum. It is called popularity; Obama is popular and is raising money as fast as he can collect it from the people who are sending it, and Hillary is foundering from a small base of maxed out donors. It may not seem fair to you, but if you ask the people who are contributing to him, I bet it is just fine with them. I know it is with my wife, our daughter and myself.

This is not about Obama or Hillary, it is about who is the best to lead our nation, and who the public feels more confident about. Arguing that the results of the primaries show that Obama can't win is a false argument. They are competing for the same voters! In the general, ideally, both groups of voters get behind the candidate and push for victory.

That is why I have no sympathy for Democrats who say that they will not vote for Obama or Hillary unless they are the winner of the primary. All I can say to that is fine, go ahead and cut your nose off to spite your face. If you think John McCain is better than either Democratic candidate, then you are no Democrat. Get lost.

But if you are supporting the Democratic candidate, then you have nothing to lose but your personal favorite. Obama was my third choice, behind Gore, who never entered, and then Dodd, who never took off. Nobody ever said that your candidate is guaranteed the win. If it works out, great! If not, get behind the candidate and better luck next time.

Such is life, but I hope that people are adult enough to make the right choice. If you are a Democrat, the right choice is the candidate who wins the primary.

So now Obama got a quarter of the vote in West Virginia, Hillary got 2/3, and Edwards even got 7% (must be his week). That's the biggest blowout of any primary, but the press was already prepared to dismiss it as just being white people voting.

Point of correction: Obama won the D.C. primary 75%-24%, a wider percentage margin than Hillary's West Virginia win. So D.C. was the widest blowout of any primary.

In addition to her 67-26 win in West Virginia, Clinton also won Arkansas 69-27, but those were the only two primaries in which she won 60% or more of the vote. In addition to D.C., Obama won Illinois 64-33, Mississippi 61-37, Georgia 66-31, Virginia 64-35, and Vermont 60-38. That's 6 primaries with 60% or more of the vote for Obama, compared with two for Clinton. I've ignored caucus states because, for the sake of argument, I'm staying within your implied frame that only primaries should count. Obama had several other caucus wins with well over 60% of the vote.

While Hillary is in many ways an impressive candidate, the bottom line is that she simply is being beaten by a team that ran a better campaign in attracting the key currency of this process: delegates.

Does this mean she must drop out? No - she can stay in as long as she wants, and still has the money to campaign. But she no longer has a realistic chance at the nomination.

For Hillary, AND her supporters, about Obama to be unfair or to be operating in bad form, because he's showing his strength as her campaign is waning - and THEN for her to clearly be hanging in there and count on pulling out a win by trying to grab delegates from MI and FL (after agreeing to rules that would not permit her to do so) is patently ridiculous.

In the end, Obama will have sufficient support from pledged delegates and Super Delegates, such that no machinations that Hillary tries to dream up with MI and FL will undo that. Hillary is the one who is and has been demonstrating extremely bad form and it's past time for this to stop.

I urge her supporters to give some thought to what's best for our country at this point and what they can do to support that.

25% in West Virginia was his strength? Edwards got 7% and he's been out of the race since January.

I've thought carefully about what's best for our country, and to support that I've decided to ask you to convince Obama to give up, though he should be the VP candidate - I think it's our strongest option, and even though he doesn't have the experience to be President, he has some valuable skills that will come in handy as an active VP.

As was stated above to you, WV is one of many states and they do not determine the feasibility of a candidate nationally. They are one facet, and a small one at that.

Ask Obama to give up?! When he is winning?! Are you nuts?! Would you ask Hillary to do the same if she was in his place? Hell NO!

When it comes to experience, they are both new to politics at the federal level. First Lady experience is not indicative of anything other than what it is. She was not elected to the position, and she did not have to answer to voters. Her husband did.

Once she was elected and became a senator, the experience clock started running for her. While she has seen the presidency from a unique angle, unlike any other presidential contender, that does not mean anything. She was just the president's wife.

I feel that Obama has more ground up experience, and that is something that we need in a president. He has been closer to the people than she has been in some time. People who have to deal with the realities of making ends meet daily.

Obama is no elite, and Hillary saying he is just makes her look foolish. Hillary should have stuck to selling herself instead of trashing Obama. Everything was fine until reality hit her campaign after Super Tuesday. Once they discovered that she was not winning, things went downhill fast.

She's a 2nd term Senator, he's a half-term Senator.

And he is a former state representative. So he has experience at the local and national level.

They are about tied, or Obama is slightly ahead with his additional years at the state level.

She has experience at the local level both as first lady and running a number of statewide boards, and her work nationally and internationally is much greater. Plus his first 2 years of national experience was 4 days in DC and flying home to Chicago to write his 2nd book and be with his kids (that was the famous do-nothing Congress, if you remember), while his time since has been running for President. Not that I would turn down a gig like that either.

But she was not elected by popular vote to her jobs on those boards, was she? She did not have to answer to anyone except those boards. While this counts for something, it is not the same as serving as an elected official. She served at the pleasure of a few people, not of the public at large. No comparison to Obama getting elected at the state level, not at all.

I might as well say it here regarding her being more than just a first lady; she was a first lady, and that is that. While it gave her a unique experience that is worth having, it is not the same as serving in an elected capacity. How can you credit her for anything during that time and really know that you are getting all of the facts.

We only know that she supported NAFTA (and so did her hubby Bill), and that she not only screwed up her only attempt at healthcare legislation but she forced another Democratic officeholders plan off the table and did not even try to get him and other Democrats involved. It was to be 'her baby', and she screwed it up so bad that we are only now starting to address it again.

And 'universal healthcare' is not 'mandated healthcare insurance' as Hillary's plans call for. Forcing everyone to buy insurance will not drive down costs. Look at the auto insurance industry and see how well that works, and how much money people are saving (not). When insurance companies vie for your business because it is optional, they are aggressive with pricing. But when it is mandated, they can rake you over the coals because you HAVE to have insurance, or else.

Reading your other posts here, it is clear that you are hung up on this, so I think I will spend my time elsewhere here.

Good luck, and if Obama is declared the winner, I hope you and others like you can get over it in time for the election.

Yes, any other politician could have just stepped in and we would have had Universal Health Care. A piece of cake, like taking Baghdad.

Let's be fair. Hillary had more influence on policy in the Clinton White House than Al Gore. So his time as VP shouldn't count either? Dismissing her as just the president's wife is awfully insulting and demeaning as she did more than a "traditional first lady".

If you want to know why Clinton supporters are angry it's not just because she is losing. It's because it is appalling to ses the glee and venom (much of it with laced barely disguised or outright misogony) with which otherwise reasonable minded democrats have been throwing her way. And to hear this shit not from Republicans but from DEMOCRATS sickens me to my core. Any perceived slight regarding race and the democrats were up in arms; repeated, vicous and outright attacks on Hillary based on her gender wer laughed off or met with deafening silence. Really? Is this the new politics we've been waiting for?

Now that the campaign is in wind down mode, let's hope that this issue is not swept under the carpet not so much for Hillary but for the next female presidential candidate that reaches this stage.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/14/AR2008051403090.html

I dont see how it won't be swept under the table unless she continues.

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Reality Check:

Senator Obama has not been outspending Hillary Clinton.

She has had Bill Clinton making several appearances a day in all the States. If he were not doing that, he would be earning up to a million dollars a day in appearance fees. That means that Bill and Hillary are actually spending up to a million more per day, in addition to the amount that they have had to report.

You mean "Spin Check"? How much did Obama pay Oprah and Ted Kennedy?

Goodness, gracious. Does anyone honestly think, if the situation were reversed, Hillary would not have done the same? This is how you win elections in the era of the 24-hour news cycle: you maximize the perception of your gains, and minimize the perception of your losses. This is how you lose them: worry about your opponent's feelings.

Perpetuating the narrative that one of our candidates (your pick) is all sweetness and light, and the other evil is both very silly and counterproductive.

Obama is ahead in the nomination because he made a few slightly smarter tactical moves than Hillary, and because his message resonates with slightly mroe Democrats than Hillary's does.

This was a very tight race, because we had two good candidates. But in the end, there can be only one nominee. And hopefully we have picked the strongest of the two; time will tell.

IMHO the hard-core Obamabots (myself included) and Clintonians alike need to get over themselves. Stop reading deeper meanings into the narrative at hand.

It's time to unify and start getting ready for the big game.

If more Obama fans could see it in a relative light as yourself, there'd probably be less dissension. The places I criticize Obama for are either 1) simply weaknesses I think I see, 2) bullshit spin he uses but of course good politics, 3) a few areas that are really worrisome because he's open to get kneecapped in the generals if he's the nominee. Is he evil? No. Reasonably competent? At least from the way he's run his campaign - it doesn't necessarily translate to governing, but it should still help. Enough of a fighter? Still holding my opinion on that. Hey, I don't think Avril Lavigne is very good either, but popular culture has passed me by. Obviously Obama built a big audience and movement - we'll see how far he can carry it.

Now, about that "Hillary is evil" schtick...

a few areas that are really worrisome because he's open to get kneecapped in the generals

It's a concern I share, though, based on what's happened so far, he seems to have some pretty tough kneecaps.

Also, I'm of the conviction that people who say "Hillary is evil" probably don't really understand what real evil is.

Agreed.

Lanny Davis gave us 8 years of GWB... had Bill resigned in 1998 as he should have, a President
Gore would have defeated GWB decisively... Furthermore, what Monica-gate demonstrated is the HRC is too damn stupid to be president... Bill had cheated on her over and over and she "forgave" me over and over... damn, girl, when are you going to wise up? And then she pretends to be surprised that her philandering husband is getting is dick sucked by a adolescent intern. Please...

Monica was 22 1/3 years old and a full-time employee, not an adolescent intern, when the affair began. The only other incident we know of was with Gennifer Flowers at least a decade before. Obviously your rage against Bill is some personal emotional problem that doesn't need any real facts to back up, but still makes you too damn stupid to blog. And what is it about oral sex that bothers you so much? It's normal human behavior, and Bill could have gone to a DC hooker like a normal DC politician.

When this all started I was planning to vote for Hillary, as an Independent. She did in fact have this nomination by default. She had it big. It was hers to lose. And she lost it. She lost it big. From the complacent assumption that she'd win fast w/no plan for a drawn-out campaign to the flailing attempts every step after that, she lost it. She threw it away. And she threw away my vote. Obama started out as a no-name and has apparently beaten the presumptive nominee, the one who was already wearing the crown and striding down the red carpet. He walked right up and plucked it from her head while she was waving at the crowd, and she let him do it. She had what should have been an unbeatable machine coupled with huge name recognition. She has proven that she is not a tenacious fighter, that she will not be ready on day one, and that she does not have what it takes. The only thing she has proven that she is a colossal failure. It has been a painful thing to watch.

When Obama started to be a real threat early-on she could have easily trounced him. Easily. All she needed to do was pick up his grass-roots "change" message and run with it. But she didn't. Instead, she chose to do all those things that have caused so much grief & division within the Democratic Party. How can you go from being known for many years as a fighter for minorities & being married to the "first black President" to losing virtually the *entire* black vote in this country? How? Obama didn't do this to her. She did it to herself.

She insists on staying in this race. It isn't over, so why should Obama shrink from making the tactical moves necessary to put the final nails in the coffin? To appease her supporters? Are you kidding? She herself said, "if you can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen". And her supporters cheered. She then gets slammed with a tactical hammer, one that in my view was brutal yet well within the bounds of "civil" politics. He didn't tell any lies or make misleading insinuations, as far as I know. Nope. But, now her supporters are mad after cheering for toughness? C'mon.

IMO she has shown herself to be nothing more than a pandering, dishonest politician who really isn't interested in anything but power. I don't want 4-8 more years of another one of those and so far Obama looks a lot less like one than anyone else. A LOT less. Am I wrong about Obama? Maybe. But I know I'm not wrong about Hillary. Just like I wasn't wrong about GW. And about Bill Clinton. And now I've get some schadenfreude with Hillary. It is a guilty pleasure - sometimes I feel genuinely bad about it because none of this was necessary. But I keep looking at what she has done these last few months, looked at them through the lens of the previous 8 years of Bush & Co, and the 8 years before that, and I've decided that she does NOT have what it takes to be a good president. In fact, she has many qualities similar to GW but with a relatively sharp mind. That's a bad combination. Bad.

If Hillary somehow takes the nomination then I've got a tough decision to make: to sit out the election or to hopefully protect the supreme court by voting for a person that has lost my respect and earned my ire.

Careful, your beard's on fire. By the way, Obama just left Chicago, and he's headed to New Orleans.

I can stand a hot kitchen :)

You're supposed to say something about "working from one end to another and all points in between". You are Billy Gibbons, aren't you? ZZTop? Got legs? How how how how? Well I might be mistaken.

You don't have to worry, 'cause takin' care o' business is his game.

See? You know the words better than he does. I'm afraid BillyGibbons is a fraud.

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