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Evan Bayh Memo Blames Clintons For Indiana Plant Closing
Sounds like Senator Evan Bayh, Hillary and Bill Clinton will have some explaining to do on Sunday during her townhall meeting with George Stepenopolis on ABC. Opps...
A memo from Evan Bayh has surfaced in which Bayh blames the Clinton's for the closing of the Magnequench plant in Vapraiso, Indiana, and this memo is due to hit the presses tomorrow. Hillary's been campaigning for 2 weeks on this plant closing, blaming it on Bush, and that this had been effective tactic for her.
Looks like Hillary's little credibility problem is about to surface again, and not a moment too soon I might add.
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Comments (43)
Correction: That is George Stephanopoulos - got his name wrong.
That live show by the way is on his show THIS WEEK coming to you LIVE from Indianapolis.
I wonder of George will let her off the HOOK again?
May 2, 2008 11:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
ABC already ran the story on Wednesday. It would appear that the only ones this makes a difference to are the Obama bloggers.
May 3, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the clip from Hardball:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/24432615#24432615
May 2, 2008 11:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love how when the guy starts talking about the factory, they show clips of Jerimiah Wright. Jesus Christ, come on people!
May 3, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I noticed that too. Motherf*ckers.
May 3, 2008 6:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
This news about the memo doesn't negate my blog entry immediately preceding yours, but on the other hand... It's about time God dropped a bombshell in Obama's favor just before a primary. Yes!
May 2, 2008 11:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Amen.
May 2, 2008 11:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was watching Hardball today when it was mentioned, but of course Chris Matthews did not bother to jump on the occasion...
I never seen so much bashing on one candidate...Since PA, it has been how Obama is weak, how Obama has lost the momentum, how Clinton is running an amazing campaign, how Obama can not close the deal, how Obama has lost the white vote...
Despite all of this, he is still ahead in NC, he will win NC, and he also has some good chances to win Indiana...
Go Obama 08
May 3, 2008 12:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
What I find interesting is that NO ONE, either in print or on cable ever mentions that Obama does far better with white voters than Hillary does with blacks.
Oh, wait....that's a PRO-Obama statistic. Nevermind...
May 3, 2008 3:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it is because Pro-Obama statistics are only in effect in states that you fly-over
May 3, 2008 10:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd almost bet Stephanopolous won't even bring it up!
May 3, 2008 12:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not the alleged memo. This is a press release from his website...
http://bayh.senate.gov/news/press/release/?id=443414bf-cb32-42e8-b559-85e73002bcd7
"The report Bayh requested takes a critical look at the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), which is responsible for reviewing the national security implications of foreign takeovers of domestic companies. In particular, the report argues that the way CFIUS interprets the legislation may limit its effectiveness. As an example, the report cites how the Treasury and some other departments that make up CFIUS use such a narrow definition of what constitutes a national security threat that as a result, they allow too many questionable purchases to take place without sufficient review.
Senator Bayh, along with Senators Shelby and Sarbanes, first requested the GAO report in 2003 after an Indiana company called Magnequench closed thanks to a 1995 decision by CFIUS to approve a Chinese consortium's takeover. At the time, Magnequench made 85 percent of the magnets used to guide U.S. smart bombs."
May 3, 2008 12:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
While the political blogger from Indiana was talking about the Bayh memo and the Magnequench closing, MSNBC was showing an image of Rev. Wright. Seemed gratuitous to me.
May 3, 2008 1:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Soon there will be a YouTube with Wright screaming "God Damn Magnequench!"
May 3, 2008 1:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
My favorite moment in that MSNBC video posted by minjo up there is when the Indiana pollster is talking about trade deals and they immediately cut to some random footage of Wright while he's talking. What did he have to do with that IN plant closing? What does he have to do with Bayh criticizing the Clintons? It makes no sense. Or maybe it makes complete sense.
May 3, 2008 1:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
For what it's worth, my wife and I missed the stuff about Bayh entirely because we were trying to figure out why they had that Wright footage up at that seemingly random moment. Completely distracted us from what was being discussed . . .
May 3, 2008 2:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
I know what you mean. Hey look, kiddies! Over here! Shiny!
May 3, 2008 2:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here in a nutshell is the fundamental flaw with harkening back to the good old Clinton years...it's a double-edged sword and Senator Clinton only wants us to remember the good times. But NAFTA turned out to be bad for jobs in the rust belt.
And she does not have the moral legitimacy or logical consistency to be an adequate critic of her husband's presidency. It's what propped her up, so why would she tear it down?
She's shown no leadership in tracing the subprime fallout to Glass-Steagall's supercession by President Clinton's signing of Gramm-Leach-Bliley (as Obama did in his speech at Cooper Union). She hasn't said a single honest thing about NAFTA. Now here she's acting like Little Miss Working Class in Indiana and the Bayh memo says what the true effect of NAFTA were on Indianapolis.
Why should we pretend for nostalgia's sake that the Clinton years were perfectly unblemished, just for the sake of her presidential ambitions?
No thanks. I choose to turn the page on all that.
May 3, 2008 4:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
I won't be holding my breath waiting for George to bring it up, although I'll watch just for the shock value of seeing him act like a real journalist.
It's interesting that Hillary has become the champion of those most hurt by outsourcing and most outraged by illegal immigration, when her friends at Wal-Mart are the biggest beneficiaries of Chinese manufacturing and her friends at Tyson stock their packing plants with low-cost Mexican labor.
May 3, 2008 6:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's wife was also connected with Walmart and EVERYBODY is guilty of profiting from the cheaper prices of gods imported from China. I pay more and privately boycott Chinese goods. Do you? Any consumer can "vote" with his wallet every time he or she goes shopping.
The cheaper imported goods and the labor-cheap production have lost jobs but lessened inflation. What does the voter do with that part of the equation?
Also, had Gore -- the vice president from the CLINTON administration -- been elected president, we would have already developed ecology-friendly industries which would have already absorbed a lot of lost jobs.
The Obama campaign will try to blitz Reverend Wright out of the voters' minds with this memo, but it isn't going to happen.
May 3, 2008 7:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Of course, this has NOTHING to do with the fact that Hillary Clinton tied the Magnaquench job loss to Bush, while it was her husband who actually signed the agreement that allowed the plant to move to China after 10 years.
But, since you brought it up...one big reason why Gore didn't become President is that Clinton was awfully busy in New York, campaigning for his wife, while Gore got virtually no White House support on the trail.
Actually, there's zero evidence to back up this claim. Obama's not talking about the Clinton duplicity on Magnaquench on the stump - the Indiana media is covering this quite nicely, thank you very much. He's talking about his platforms and proposals, and why they'll work best.
May 3, 2008 11:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Who cares about the national media?
This will play in the Indiana papers.
A plant moved to China with permission and approval granted by the Clintons. Out go the plant jobs... in come the NEW SERVICE SECTOR jobs that Clinton touts as a solid record. Out with the factories, in with the strip malls.
This hits Hillary right where it hurts... and if the national media ignores it in favor of the usual sensual massage, so much the better.
May 3, 2008 8:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
It needs to hit NC as well. Barack needs a nice margin in NC to pad the popular vote. Not that the popular vote rules, but it would be nice to publicly drive a stake into the heart of that argument.
May 3, 2008 9:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
so where is the story that was supposed to hit the papers today?
May 3, 2008 9:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nothing hit the papers.....
May 3, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary is really really mad at George W Bush for letting her husband, President Bill Clinton, sign over that Indiana Manufacturing Plant to China, and ship it out there.
Hillary Tuzla Clinton says: "Shame on you George W. Bush for not stopping my husband, when he was the president, from endangering our national security by sending our national security plant to China."
May 3, 2008 11:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Its not like the Clintons worry about national security or anything. Like when Bill tried to broker selling American Ports to Saudi Arabia. No can't be true...can it?
While Senator Hillary Clinton, Democrat of New York, was attacking the Bush administration over the Dubai ports deal, her husband Bill was advising United Arab Emirates officials on how best to smooth over the controversy and push the deal through.
The role played by the former Democratic president in coaching the state-owned Dubai Ports World on how best to navigate the political waters that his wife was helping to roil in Washington was first reported by the Financial Times.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/60414c4c-a95e-11da-a64b-0000779e2340.html
Hillary however joined with several fellow Democrats in introducing legislation that would ban companies owned by foreign governments from running US ports and effectively kill the deal with Dubai Ports World. “In a post-9/11 world, we cannot afford to surrender our port operations to foreign governments,” Clinton said in a statement. “Port security is national security and national security is port security.”
She welcomed the company’s agreement to accept a 45-day period of investigation as a first step towards stopping the transaction.
According to the Financial Times account, however, Dubai Ports World’s decision to voluntarily submit to the probe was taken on the advice of Bill Clinton as a means of clearing the air so that the deal could go through.
Bill Clinton’s relations with the UAE are longstanding and lucrative. In 2002, he was paid $300,000 to address a conference in the emirate and received $450,000 for a more recent speech. The UAE has reportedly donated between half a million and a million dollars to the Clinton presidential library.
May 3, 2008 9:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
What are the chances that Stepenopolis would ask her about it?
May 3, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
The odds are greater that Josh Marshall is really John McCain's bastard son.
May 3, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't believe this isn't getting any traction. I guess Hillary's top surrogates are Teflon and cannot be discussed. I mean first Rendell is linked to Farrakhan after Hillary had attacked Barack about his churches link to Farrakhan, and now with Clinton and Bayh blaming the plant closure on the Bush White House now, which directly contracts his earlier memo that placed the blame solely on the feet of the Clinton White House.
May 3, 2008 1:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair04072006.html
The Saga of Magnequench
by Jeffrey St. Clair
April 23, 2006
"We're handing over to the Chinese both our defense technology and our jobs in the midst of a deep recession," says Rep. Peter Visclosky, a Democrat from northern Indiana.
"In 1995, Magnequench was purchased from GM by Sextant Group, an investment company headed by Archibald Cox, Jr-the son of the Watergate prosecutor."
May 3, 2008 2:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder if Snuggleupagus will call Hillary on this tomorrow. Doubtful.
May 3, 2008 2:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I checked the main Indiana papers online: Terre Haut, Indy, Kokomo, several others and there is no mention of Magnequench. Some very fluffy articles about Clinton, with lots of bias
Here is the IN online press
http://www.usnpl.com/innews.php
(check out Kokomo Trib for a peek into Orwell Land. A "report' on voter reactions to a recent Hillton
visit.)
May 3, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Two weeks of Rev. Wright wallpaper cinema and when a legit story pushing back on a candidates bogus factual claim comes up - P i N d r o p. Nada.
Google "Magnequench" and you get about 10 hits.
Obama needs to hit this with underscore tomorrow with Russert. Yes? Wise for him to mention this forcefully himself?
I think he should because it's a factual point that Hillary has wrapped up in a gift box withn a misleading TV claim. It's 72 hours before the election in IN. Hit her with it!
May 3, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the only way this becomes an issue is if Obama comes out forcefully to make it an issue. And Obama is going to need Bayh come the general to work hard in Indiana, which could help in Ohio. Similarly Obama didn't go after Rendell's Farrakhan link in Pennsylvania because he'll need Rendell on the stump for him in Pennsylvania.
Obama has the Gas Tax issue to push and run on in Indiana, and if he doesn't get supporters though that I doubt Bayh's flip-flopping will get him any ground either. Attacking surrogates/supporters is Clinton tactics - Obama needs to look at the big (read GE) picture.
May 3, 2008 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama can bring this up without attacking Baye. It is a fact that the plant closed due to actions of the Clinton administration and a fact that Hillary is falsely accusing the Bush administration of it. It is a classic example of her duplicity. I'm amazed by the lack of attention on this. The campaign must bring it to light. I think they should make a tv ad. It's an important issue.
May 3, 2008 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
ARGH!
ME BUCCANEERS! KEEP THOSE MAGNETS FROM OUR COMPASS!
WENCH HILLARY CAUSES US TO LOSE DIRECTION!
ACQUIRE! MERGE! MARAUD! DILUTE! DILUTE!
ARGH!
May 3, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
To Josh Marshall
Here is Candidate Clinton in 2005 on CBS using the same language McCain used in his 100 year gaffe. This was in an interview with Bob Scheiffer. Marc needs to find the video for this and then we can here how vetted she really is. How could McCain's 100 year remark be used against him if she is the nominee. You'll have her bashing McCain and then show her praising what McCain said.
What is amazing about candidate Clinton's candidacy is she is rising even though she is a neocon in an anti war party. Just shows America loves dynasties. I am convinced voters are voting for Bill Clinton and not her.
Here is candidate Clinton in her own neocon words.
Sen. CLINTON: If I could just add to what Senator Graham said, because I think it's really
important we underscore this.
Senator McCain made the point earlier today, which I agree
with, and that is, it's not so much a question of time when it comes to American military
presence for the average American; I include myself in this.
But it is a question of casualties.
We don't want to see our young men and women dying and suffering these grievous injuries
that so many of them have.
We've been in South Korea for 50-plus years. We've been in Europe for 50-plus. We're still in Okinawa with respect to protection there coming out of
World War II.
You know, we have been in places for very long periods of time.
And in recent history, we've
made a commitment to Bosnia and Kosovo, and I think what is different is the feeling that
we're on a track that is getting better and that we can see how the Iraqi government will begin
to assume greater and greater responsibility. The elections were key to that. The training,
equipment, equipping and motivating of the Iraqi security forces is key to that.
But so is our
understanding that if we were to artificially set a deadline of some sort, that would be like a
green light to the terrorists, and we can't afford to do that.
Dailykos poster had the scoop:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/3/11457/02274/191/508327
To all the Obama supporters out there.
Get this story out there. The vetted candidate is not vetted.
Posted by Samryan
May 3, 2008 7:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is not the place for that.
May 3, 2008 8:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Look, Obama people (I'm one of you) --don't get too bent out of shape over Indiana. Hillary is doing well among White voters right now and Obama has lost ground. That doesn't mean Obama won't pull it out. The super-delegates are not going to reward Hillary and Bill for working up White voters about Obama. I don't see them going against the traditional Black base. Not going to happen.
May 3, 2008 8:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cypher,
I understand what you mean. The thing is I think we are all really scared. I mean really scared. We are vetting Clinton, but the MSM is not. They have ties all over, including Daddy Bush and many lucrative deals with foreign governments. They might just steal this out from under Obama, like Bush did to Gore. The only way to ensure that doesnt happen is to try as hard as we can to make the vote not even close. And while this is just a dinky little blog, I have heard that Rachel Maddow reads it and I am sure there are others. If stories are newsworthy and the links have merit, all we can do is hope against hope someone in the MSM with integrity (I know, impossible right?) picks it up in time to get it out there. Here is hoping anyway :)
May 3, 2008 9:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're right. All we can do is the right thing here. And there comes a point when you have to step back a bit, catch your breath and
wait it out.
It was never going to be easy.
May 3, 2008 10:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Senator Evan Bayh, Hillary and Bill Clinton will have some explaining to do on Sunday during her townhall meeting with George Stepenopolis (sic) on ABC.
Do you actually think that George S. will be seriously addressing this subject during the townhall meeting on ABC tomorrow?
May 3, 2008 10:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
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