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Donna Brazille takes on Paul Begala on CNN
Donna Brazille had a bit of a tussle with Paul Begala when he referred to Obama's coaliton as African Americans and Eggheads. She was awesome.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/06/brazile-and-begala-angril_n_100500.html
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Comments (93)
I thought I covered this in my post already tonight, but I appreciate hearing it from you.....you're so much quieter than I am.
May 6, 2008 10:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hi LisB,
I know. I decided to put it up again when yours disappeared. I was thrilled that you had put it up.
I also meant to give you credit for the original post, but opted for speed. So I'm grateful to be able to see you again!
She was amazing, wasn't she?
gftb
May 6, 2008 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Link to video here
May 7, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
She made me shout out loud, in my quiet attic apartment.
Woke my boyfriend up.
He was glad, because he's an Obama supporter too.
Are you on my.bo.com? I'd love to meet you. I think we can work together these upcoming months.
May 6, 2008 10:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me too! It was a righteous moment. She dressed him down in the most classy, forceful and dignified way.
I'm not on your my.bo.ocm. Would be happy to meet you. How do I find you?
I'm afraid I didn't click the link thing in my post.
My apologies to those who have to cut and paste the HTML link :(
Over-zealousness on my part.
May 6, 2008 10:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Donna for VP !
May 6, 2008 11:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Blue man! I love you!
You took the words right out of my mouth.
May 6, 2008 11:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cypher and Bronx...Im with you too....:)
May 7, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Donna was awesome!
May 7, 2008 12:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Begala was PISSED. He likes to pretend he's reasonable and sane, but he was positively foaming at the mouth tonight. It's over. He knows it. They know it. It's over.
May 7, 2008 12:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
And the tongue lashing she gave him was a thing of beauty!
May 7, 2008 1:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well that's very nice for Donna. But someone please keep her FAR FAR AWAY from the campaign decisions. The woman is an old school political loser.
May 7, 2008 3:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
"is to put the jam on the lower shelf where the little folk can reach it".
Wow, will the "middle class blue-collar" voters will get the insult by Paulie's condescension towards them. Talk about elitism.
On top of that, he insults all those "Volvo drivin', NPR totebag totin' liberals, egg-heads black americans" too.
No wonder she lost this primary with nutjobs like paulie (who the fuck he has always that stupid, simpering smile beats me), three-cojones jamie, jubba mark, et.al. advising her strategy.
Shudder to think how her administration would have been. And Thank God it ain't happenin'.
May 7, 2008 7:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
So this is why Brazile was awesome?
Brazile: "Well, Lou, I have worked on a lot of Democratic campaigns, and I respect Paul. But, Paul, you're looking at the old coalition. A new Democratic coalition is younger. It is more urban, as well as suburban, and we don't have to just rely on white blue-collar voters and Hispanics."
It's talk like this that angers so many Hillary supporters.
May 7, 2008 8:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't mean this as a slam but honestly, I don't see why this should anger anyone. She is saying that we are broadening the coalition. Dems aren't abandoning anyone.
This is good news and provides democrats with more ways to win - not just this election, but future elections as well.
May 7, 2008 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Do you think Begala's dismissal of African-Americans and educated people is ot worthy of anger?
I could say Begala was saying that being educated and Black is mutally exclusive. That would be reducing that particular comment to the absurd.
Educated urban folk are as patriotic as anybody. We don't wear flag pins, in general. We take our faith personally and tend to keep it inward. We tend to be offended when someone gets in our face about their version of faith or lack of faith indicates superiority. The religious don't want atheists in their face. atheists don't want the religious in their face. Both sides will fight back.
We arugula eaters believe in hard work. We are offended when we are called eggheads because we have an education. We do recognize the school of hard knocks and common sense as important educational factors. But we do want a neurosurgeon when a serious head wound occurs. We belive in global warming because of information from climatologists. We are, in fact, willing to listen to some economists.
We are tired of being looked down upon by people in rural America who feel that they can ridicule us with abandon. Having gone through eight years of the most uneducated President in history, we are just a little less tolerant of the point of view that "elistism" (read intelligence) is a bad thing and we will be vocal about that belief.
We wouldn't be eating arugula if rural America didn't put in the hard work to grow it. We're here. We geared up. Get over it.
We are far more tolerant than those who ridicule us. We just don't get why flag lapel pins are your major question when your jobs have been outsourced, your home foreclosed, and your health insurance is absent.
May 7, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Right on. Since when does being educated make you a loser? I am tired of the "my kid beat up your honor roll kid" bumper sticker mentality. But to Obama's credit, he doesn't take the bait. Clinton's handlers don't understand that their time has passed, that this is a new Democratic party, and if some white blue collar workers can't accept the other demographics, there's a party waiting for them--called the Republicans. Many of these people have not been a reliable part of the base. I'm sorry, but Reagan Democrats are not really Democrats. The African American community has been more loyal to the Dems than any other group, and to be dissed by the likes of Begala is really amazing and disgusting. Donna was great!
May 7, 2008 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are exactly right, rmrdOOOO
As a Latina and Obama supporter, I've been really troubled that the Clintons have taken us for granted and that's caused me to react much as the African American community has.
Later,
gftb
May 7, 2008 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
"We just don't get why flag lapel pins are your major question when your jobs have been outsourced, your home foreclosed, and your health insurance is absent.
Oh my god, I was sooooo thinking the same thing! Thanks for voicing that for me, I'm soooo gonna use that.
May 7, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you really not understand why Brazille was mad? It wasn't about Obama. It was about be marginalized as an African American by a mean spirited jerk like Begala.
She won't be hurt by that, he will. He was a complete jerk. Lanny Davis in the same boat.
May 7, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Begala stated what the Clinton campaign was telegraphing. Clinton and Begala's Democratic Party is blue collar workers and Latinos. Eggheads and African-Americans need not apply to "his" party.
I'm doubly dismissed by Begala.
May 7, 2008 8:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Begala is a pig.
May 7, 2008 8:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
oink on his mean spirited soul
May 7, 2008 10:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wish she would have slapped Lanny Davis for his continued insane ranting. For some reason, I find it hard to dislike Begala but Donna was right to tell him off. She's fabulous.
May 7, 2008 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Lanny Davis was positively scary on CCN last night. He spun a tale so absurd that it took about 3 minutes to tie up all the loose ends...I tuned out after something about Obama preventing re-votes in FL and MI. We'll see what the next few days bring, but Lanny reminded me jow desperately the Clinton's want this, and the lengths they are willing to go to.
May 7, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's a lobbyist. The potential fortune he could make with access to a president is gone.
And Obama isn't going to be nice to lobbyists. He wants them out.
May 7, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nobody mentioned how her bias was showing -- as usual -- although she tried to cover it up when she was rightly accused by the journalist for "leaning" in the Obama direction without owning up to it.
May 7, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Brazille's not a journalist, she's a political commentator....and it has been obvious where she is leaning for a long time, in favor of the candidate who isn't submarining the Dems chances in Nov. The same reason Superdelegates want this thing to be over, and will be coming out in numbers for Obama.
Hillary has been shitting where she eats for weeks now, and it stinks to high heaven. Her self-destructive pandering, fear mongering, and attacks on Obama have been right out of the Republican playbook. Last night was a little house cleaning. More work to do still, but last night was a big step.
May 7, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Donna Brazille worked on (led?) Gore's campaign and gave him a lot of stupid advice that really cost him in the end. Sorry folks, she's no hero! Just another dem political consultant (yes, consultant, not commentator)--just like Paul Begala.
May 7, 2008 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
so hrc supporters think it is ok to dismiss blacks and white obama supporters and obama supporters are saying the white rural vote and hispanic vote alone cannot solidify this election.
they are both wrong and right--we need all the voters to come aboard or we lose in november. if the staggering numbers in which AA are abandoning HRC doesn't give democrats cause to worry then AA's should consider changing party affiliation to Independent or force Republicans to cater to their needs. The dem party is obviously taking the AA's years of support for granted. I understand white rural workers who tend to jump on the Republican ship and Hispanics are the new thing and that is great-we need them all b/c together we all form the great US of A, but it is equally important to maintain the base and part of that base is composed of AA.
I don't have numbers to back this up, but to my knowledge, no Dem candidate has ever won in my young lifetime without overwhelming AA support. To simply dismiss Obama's supporters as AA and eggheads is incredulous to say the least. And these are the kind people who support HRC? No wonder her campaign was so polarizing!
A stark difference between Obama and HRC-he is more inclusive. He is making inroads with rural whites but it is difficult when he has HRC and Bill telling rural whites to be real afraid of Obama. It barely worked in Indiana, but it was a successful strategy in OH an PA. Now my question to HRC is how she is going to prove that she can win over the AA vote? I think Obama has been kissing up to white rural America quite a bit. No such kissing up from HRC for the AA vote. My take on it? She doesn't think it's necessary to get AA vote b/c Dems always had it. This is poor judgement because for the first time in a long time, I think any AA who is worth his/her grain in salt is taking a long hard look at this party that they have so willingly supported for so many years. Just the simple fact that the SUPERS allowed HRC to take this polarizing tone and to allow her to divide us into AA v/s white rual working class says alot about what Dems think about both white blue collar workers and AAs. In my humble opinion, the dems have manipulated AAs and rural whites in the most shameless fashion.
Shame on us all! One more reason to vote for Obama and pray that HRC doesn't get anywhere near that ticket. He needs to pick a white male who is somewhat conservative, preferably speak with a southern drawl and who is strong on foreign and economic policy. If he is smart, he would steer clear of picking a woman VP. Leave the window open for HRC to make another pitch as first woman prez in 2012-that is gracious enough considering her shameless showdown this past year!
Again shame on us all for continuing to support this notion that one group of voters supercede the other. From a foreigner's standpoint and I am brown, neither black nor white, I am starting to get really uncomfortable about our acceptance of this polarization. Today it is ok to cast aside the AA vote in our effort to smooch votes from rural whites and my fellow Hispanics. Tomorrow, my fellow Hispanics will be easily dismissed in favor of what? Asians? People who are left-handed? This is getting ridiculous and quite frankly, it is too dangerous a territory for any fine upstanding DEM citizen!
May 7, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Amen
May 7, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
TELL IT!!!!!!!!!!
Outstanding post Cher.
the VP candidate you are describing is Sam Nunn.
May 7, 2008 11:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent post!
May 7, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Amen, cher!
May 7, 2008 7:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
good post cher!
May 7, 2008 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
See, now I told my self I was done with expressing my displeasure with HRC! I wake up and find this crap! That was sooooo offensive what Paul said. This projection that Obama does not have a big tent is offensive and Republican esq. WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE WITH THE LETTER (D) BEHIND THEIR NAME!!!!.....I'm sure some will play dumb and act like this is ok, its just politics....God Damb these people. Paul is not a Democrat....again to introduce the notion that the white people that are voting for Obama are elite white people not any other kind, and to polarize this party should be offensive to EVERYONE!.....What are they doing....It is repulsive....and yes Donna did a great Job pushing back, but for this to come from a democrat this polarizing republican tactic to use the press to exploit a false notion.......Obama has everyone voting for him..with the exception of HRC supporters and republicans......I really do hate her....Im sorry she will destroy this party if knowone steps up and stops this nonsense!!!!
May 7, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Begala is a complete jerk. Donna Brazille will become an important voice in stopping the nonsense I think. Begala and Lanny Davis see that their future checks as lobbyists in doubt.
The Clintons have to pay the piper. Personally, I don't believe their reputations will ever be repaired.
May 7, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's new theme song:
http://www.imeem.com/batman17/music/ddYV4rHj/jadakiss_jadakiss_the_champ_is_here_instrumental/
May 7, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
LoL...Bionic.....If only that were so....I have this feeling that HRC is going to pay the judges off though....
May 7, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sean, it's hard not to be cynical. I'm a Latina from the Bronx. Even when things are going good, I'm always waiting for the other shoe to drop.
But the Champ is gonna do this.
I know Barack has the capacity to transcend fear, intolerance, ignorance and bigotry.
Gonna go write that check for him right now!
Later,
bronx girl
May 7, 2008 11:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hear yah Bronx! Your right too...I have to get out of that bad habbit, and especially because I have no choice. Thing is, the Champ was here about 3 months back, but we are still fighting. Fighting the Media, Hillary, republican pundits, and McCain is scary though. He has been doing it for so long. So I should give him the credit he deserves. It is hard though, I cant watch T.v. anymore. They spin soooooo hard, and the ratings they need, its scary!
So now on to being optimisitic, and thanks for the heads up.
Latina from the Bronx huh......Watch out now, you know thats my type, I fall easy....lol.....
:)
May 7, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sean, I think we're both right. I have faith in the Champ (BTW, thanks Bionic Soy, for the new theme song link!) He's the Champ from now on to me!
But it's like driving. You can be a great driver but sometimes the accident happens because of the other guy, no matter how good a driver you are.
Hillary wants to take this to the convention. Looks likes she's still going there.
What's the point of that?
Divide the party even more before November.
Is the kitchen sink empty? Is she gonna get the muck out of the garbage incinerator too?
Don't even get me started if that happens.
Later, Sean. You know you made my day!
May 7, 2008 12:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
And you made mine....
Take care...:)
May 7, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
can't get the song to play from your link
May 7, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Begala just helped pinpoint why this bull is so insulting.
We hear talk of "eggheads" AND blacks, as if the two are obviously separate categories, same with blue-collar and blacks.
Through long periods of my life, I've been an egghead and blue-collar at the same time. And a rural white. It's amazing how individuals can fall into various categories.
May 7, 2008 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Precisely!
May 7, 2008 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
I cannot look at Donna Brazile without remembering her botched job as head of Gore's campaign - something she has never really owned up to or explained, as far as I know. Also, as I said to the TV last night, why does she get to be a superdelegate?
That said, I enjoyed her spanking of that weenie Begala. However, God willing, this has got to stop soon. HRC wins West Virginia?? CNN trumpeting their coverage of this big primary?? They're milking this for ratings. NOTHING MATTERS NOW. Can't the Clintons/media get this through their heads??
It's clear the Clintons are just treading water while they desperately search for a way to destroy Obama - a task that becomes more difficult every day, as he gains strength. And if somehow they succeed, and the superdels are convinced - can you imagine what that convention will be like? A combination of '68 (fighting in the streets) and '72 (civil war inside). And need I remind everyone, the convention is BARELY TWO MONTHS before the general election.
I'm ranting, and saying little that hasn't been said. Is there no talking to these people at all??? I'm continually amazed. And depressed.
May 7, 2008 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for your comments. I have to say, I don't remember Brazile's role in the Gore campaign. I was living abroad half the time.
May 7, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sure, when the proper time comes, Donna will support Obama. But notice she has not tried to poison the water for Clinton.
On the other hand, Begala is playing Republican music, dancing to it in fact, trying to poison the water.
I believe that the deals are being cut and that although the Clintons may continue through the first June out of respect for her supporters, the money and energy for a mean-spirited, negative campaign is gone.
The Clintons would be well-served by working to strengthen the party now. If they don't, Hillary may face serious competition for her senate seat and the Clinton reputation will suffer greatly.
May 7, 2008 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
On the other hand, Begala is playing Republican music, dancing to it in fact, trying to poison the water.
I think this is the crucial point. The Clinton campaign has been based recently on "slicing and dicing" the electorate, and exacerbating the kinds of culture and ethnicity-based class divisions that have been a staple of Republican races for decades now.
I thought what Democrats have always tried to do was unify "eggheads", and African-Americans, and Latinos, and the broad multicolored middle class - college educated and not college educated, white and non-white alike - into a broad coalition that could assert its collective interests against entrenched wealth and power. Why are Democrats now playing these divisive Republican games?
I think this tax holiday idea has really produced a backlash. It's not even so much the debate over the merits of the proposal that did it, but her decision to throw economists and other academic experts under the bus, and dump on them as addle-brained elitists. To see some Democrats embrace the anti-intellectualism of Republicans - and throw in with the Republican war on science, knowledge and expertise - is really, really annoying.
The college educated are really taken for granted by a lot of politicians, and I think a lot of us are sick of being mocked and derided. The idea that Barack Obama, for example, a self-made man from very humble origins, who has earned everything he has attained through hard work, and who has chosen to put his educational attainments and gifts back to work into helping the less fortunate, is just some sort of fluffy, silver-spooned elitist, is really galling.
Personally, I had to work damn, f***ing hard to get my PhD, and I really resent the constant implications that I am nothing but some fop with a sweet-smelling piece of paper, and that none of my hard work resulted in any actual knowledge.
May 7, 2008 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Personaly,I dont think she wants that senate seat anymore.
May 7, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
On a general note, and not to hurt anyone's feelings, I'd like to point out that TPM posters are not especially responsive to people of color. I'm guessing it's that White Liberal Thing. But good luck to you folks, speaking as a person of color myself, though Blue in my case.
May 7, 2008 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cypher there is some there, there! I find it insulting, but at the same time Im sensitive too, so who knows whats happening at the time. What's funny is I sometimes post things, they are ignored and then I look at some other post by someone I guess they respect more, and everyone is congratulating them on the post..lol! That and the whole....The "TPM threads are going to hell" crack me up, and allot of those people tend to follow each other around ignoring everyone else! Personaly, I dont give a shit though, Im all inclussive or try to be, they can have that!
May 7, 2008 2:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
You guys got your sensitive skin lotion handy?
May 7, 2008 2:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't mean to be a wiseass.....I actually value yours and Cyphers posts very much, both for their insight and for the perspective you offer. I just hope you don't think anyone here really distinguishes people based on race, I for one would like to think I am far more complex than that.
May 7, 2008 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dont Trip Dorn...I wear my sensitivity like a badge of Honor..lol.. I would never have said anthing like this if Cypher didnt start it. I had to agree with him though, because it means he noticed something, and I think he is somewhat right. Now again, I dont paint all people here that way. I love me some HusseinTenaX and Bronx.and others....they respond to everyone! You seem to take that approach as well...so its all good....:)
May 7, 2008 2:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
dear trampoline
see anything up there in the happy clouds?
May 7, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
muscle dude--
They are an insider group. They are into themselves more than they are into politics. They recommend themselves automatically without even reading what is writen.
Your comments (yesterday) were so honest and refreshing among this self stroking crowd that I thought,"if TMP were really going to attain some deep sense of diverse democracy, this would be a sign."
But they don't respond to racial issues when presented by people of color. Sometimes. But rarely.
Great comments yesterday, friend.
May 7, 2008 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh..I got muscle..lol..Sometimes I flex to much, expecially of late!....So I try to limit that. I dont want any of these people to piss me off, because again...I trip...But your point is taken...and man Thank you about my comments yesterday! I cant say that enough.....:)
At the end of the day, I know the hypocrisy. Every once in a while I challenge it when it drives me their, but it only drives a wedge between us, so I pick and chose those battles....
Peace Cypher...
May 7, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Shit there!! Im awful...lol
May 7, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think this is no doubt true in many ways, but it doesn't (deliberately) have anything to do with color. We all tend to relate better to those who have similar experiences as us, and that sometimes means that a degree of re-segregation can occur if we're not vigilant. Keep in mind that unless you broadcast it in some form or other (like having your picture as your avatar), no one knows your color. In fact, I'd actually assumed that you (Cypher) were white underneath that blue.
May 7, 2008 5:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you mean on the thread, or in general? How would I know what color people are in less they told me? Avatars tell me nothing--for example, I doubt you are really blue.
May 7, 2008 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think most people of color on this post and elsewhere tend to let it be known at one time or another. But I do feel like the minority here at TPM. No way to know for sure.
May 7, 2008 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
May 7, 2008 2:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Stupid blockquotes. Sorry...and that post was meant as a reply to Cypher.
May 7, 2008 2:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
And sorry for the spelling/grammar/syntax/usage/etc., I really can't type today.
Too many Crown Royal shots, and Beers with 3-Balls Hillary last night.
May 7, 2008 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
also, that "shitting where they eat" line was perfect.
May 7, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
trampoline
got the message and thanks
i'm an instigator obviously, and trying to bring important issues into the open
this topic of the thread is, in part, about race
by the way
love you pic
together yours and mine would be a good ad for brain meds
May 7, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hear, ya. And your posts did make me reflect upon the clubby nature of the group here (I have just recently, and only tangentially been invited in, and boy does it feel good!), but there's plenty of room in this school for more than one clique...we have the cool kids, the nerds, the scary guys in trenchcoats (u know who I mean), and various others....
Welcome. And keep up the instigating, I love to think. (Can you smell the smoke?)
May 7, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
i saw you over at the ghengis thread..
the only way to get into a "group" --if you wanted to-- is to piss them off. They like seeing people in the begging mode..
i don't give a rat's ass for the clique.
When there have been some very long and important discussions on race and politics, discussions with 150 comments, they stay out, preferring their secret snark handshake crap.
Only Billy Glad will take a look and come in for a political purpose.
May 7, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cypher....Now let me return the favor! You express so well in this post what I feel.....
I hope you dont think in my other posts me trying to brush their shit off my shoulders means I dont completely agree with you, because I do!
May 7, 2008 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I get it, really. Finding the right place in one's heart while retaining dignity ain't no picnic. You say things you really feel, like Tena.
Me, I'm a low-life. But I care.
May 7, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
If your a low life (which your not) then I am...cuz again....I have wanted to say what you said so many times...but felt I have not been here long enough..
May 7, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Say anything you want to anyone here --that's what I think. But don't take it personally if they don't respond. Even if it seems personal and may be personal perhaps. If you find even a few people with whom you connect --we'll that's better than a lot of
"back at you" "great post" "good snark"
F.... that S.... !
May 7, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup...Love me some Tena Too...I dont think she knows right or wrong, she's a bad woman...lol!
May 7, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bizaaro comment. I thought this thread was about the absurdity offensive nature of camp Hillary emphasizing racial division, and Obama's committment to moving beyond that crap. Yet you make a ridiculous generalization based on race. What the heck?
You've nailed that so right, my brother. And yes, I'm exactly what my avatar and nick imply, and also male. I don't wear sunglasses quite so much, however. ;) :)
May 7, 2008 8:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
KaterO
I've had to suffer for being the last Blue person on the earth.
Only Chris Rock loves me.
May 7, 2008 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, I bet others love you as well.
May 7, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have always found that Lanny Davis is the most divisive person when he is on CNN or any other cable News show. He has written three Op Ed pieces spewing his trash about Obama, like he personally has a fight with Obama. I hate listening to his rants about Hillary and how she is better then Obama and that Obama cannot get the so called Blue Collar Whites (Republicans). I was so proud of Donna last night, because I felt like she was speaking for me and all Obama supporters. We are tired of the divisiveness of the Clintons and their supporters and we are not going to take it any more. You can support your candidate with out disparaging the character of the other candidate in your own party for Pete’s sake.
Lanny Davis is the most hateful of the Clinton supporters and I was so glad that the others on the panel have also had enough. David Gergen was great as always, reasonable and very constructive in his criticism of the Clinton supporters.
May 7, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup. Gergen has become the one voice on CNN I really admire. What happened at CNN? What's with the unseemly, spit-drooler fool Lou Dobbs?
Once a great institution, that CNN. No longer.
May 7, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thats again because they play the game....the republicans called us the most liberal network on t.v......so you being that they have no so sense, or they are truly just bought and paid for, they now go out of there way to prove they are just as foxy as Fox!
They have no more credibility, and Blitzer was exposed with that interview with Cheney he did!
Basicaly, they are unwatchable to me. You cant out-fox Fox!
May 7, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Donna Brazille is THE woman i want in my corner!
May 7, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I saw it and it was entertaining. But Ms. Brazille refused to admit she is an Obaman and that disqualifies her from the sainted status everyone is giving her today.
Mr. Begala isn't my favorite guy but he is upfront about who he backs. She, on the other hand, was not.
Question: Why is that Clinton supporters are called "hateful" for defending their candidate while Obama supporters are considered patriotic?
Answer: Because the media says so.
May 7, 2008 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Donna Brazille is a functionary of the party. She can't say who she supports at this point. She's a super delegate.
May 7, 2008 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Question: Why is that Clinton supporters are called "hateful" for defending their candidate while Obama supporters are considered patriotic?
Answer: Because the media says so."
Dear Chico,
I have friends and family members who support Hillary. I don't consider them hateful. Can we just stop with the massive generalizations?
I'm fine with our differences of opinion, but when and if I scratch beneath the surface and find racist or an objectionable thought process that is counter to my own value system, that's where I draw the line.
It's clear that many Hillary supporters don't agree that her campaign has contributed to many racialized aspects of this campaign.
But many people do.
May 7, 2008 5:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama says you suck Hillary,
Hillary says Oh yeah, well your apart of a terrorist group thats hates america...Hmmmm
is there no difference in the two?
May 7, 2008 5:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cypher,
Give me a break. Super delegates have been committing for weeks. I see Ms. Brazille often on ABC's Sunday show and other places. At no time has she ever said one word that could be considered complimentary of Sen Clinton or negative on Sen. Obama.
Don't misunderstand. She is entitled to her view. But she is not entitled to hide her preference for Obama because the false veneer of "The Party."
I concede Sen. Obama is probably going to win. I understand that to the victors belong the spoils and the Obamans are going to rub it in to Clinton supporters like myself. (Just read the many above posts that suggest that I am a racist and divisive for not supporting Obama.)
I get it. But I don't have to like it.
May 7, 2008 5:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, she is on the rules committee. I don't think it's a bad thing for her to remain officially neutral. The House Majority Whip is clearly for Obama, but because of his position can't state that.
I think you are pissed off because you're candidate hasn't won.
Understandable. And Brazill pushed Begala around in a very forceful way,
She wasn't the only one taken aback by his remarks on that panel.
Lots on energy in the fight. Only natural that it unwinds with difficulty.
May 7, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cypher,
You misunderstand totally. Begala was out of line. he deserved to get whacked for saying something very stupid. But Brazille has been an Obaman from day one and refuses, for some reason, to say so.
Officially neutral be damned. Nobody believes it for a second.
I would have more respect for her for saying she is standing up for the guy she believes in rather than pretending than to complain about something else.
And that is why people like me are ticked. People like Brazille and the many media folk who jumped on the Obama bandwagon lied when they said they were being impartial in their presentations. They were not.
You're going to win. Party up like there is no tomorrow.
And then come back and tell me why I should support you. I'm willing to listen.
May 7, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
gotta go to work....not ducking the question...can I catch you another day ? respectfully ?
May 7, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sean, Bronx, Chico, Katega, everyone...I'm heading to work. See you later.
May 7, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Be good Cypher...!
May 7, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Donna has not officially said she is for Obama but watch her daily on CNN as I do and she is anything but uncommitted. She already threatened that if the "smoky back room boys" take the nomination away from Obama she would quit the Democratic party. So please, don't tell me she is uncommitted. As for the African American and egghead comment, I beg to say that that is what the major media and especially CNN have been describing who votes for who for ages now. It is always described as blue collar, Hispanics, older people and then Obama gets African Americans, more wealthy, college educated, and the young crowd. Why she would get so offended is beyond me because she listens to it from CNN all the time.
May 7, 2008 6:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
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