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DataMining Telecom-US Govenment Immunity Discussion Documents

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TPMM cited Newsweek's reference to EFF-hosted documents on US government-telecom discussions.

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McConnel's comments raised some questions about his integrity in re Iraq NIE.

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Proceed at your own risk.

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DNI's response says there are 250 pages, but the PDF file is only 123 pages. However, DNI said only 12 pages were withheld.

When does DNI plan to address in writing the remaining 115 pages?

A subsequent FOIA may be filed to ask for all notes, correspondence, emails and memoranda related to the DNI discussion on how to respond to the remaining 115 pages. Ask for the discussions on the timelines to respond, the reasons they are having trouble making a coherent response for these 115 pages.

- Who raised objections in DoJ OLC and OVP to the explanations about the remaining 115 pages?

- Why were these 115 pages not indexed, in summary form, so the court and public can decide whether the documents were or were not appropriately shielded?

- Even if we were to assume, for the sake of discussion, that the documents were classified or privileged, the court order requires a non-classified summary table: Why wasn't a redacted version of that summary table for these 115 pages provided, with all blackouts, in the initial response?

- Where are the calendars of the DOJ Staff, DNI counsel and others handling the FOIA response: What other assignments do they have that would require this much delay in fully complying this this request?

- Why is there not management attention from DOJ, DNI, OVP, and the White House to resolve these issues?

- How does the timing of these delays relate to the Miers and Bolten subpoenas; and the recent House Judiciary letters sent to OVP in re Addington and YOo?

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This is their version of what's going on with these missing pages.

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Page 4 of 124 indicates the document is classified Top Secret. However, the markings only show the document was classified (FOUO). It appears the original information has been overclassified.

DNI needs to explain why the original document was classified Top Secret, while the embedded information was classified FOUO, and marked (U/FOUO), "Unclassified, For Official Use Only".

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This note discusses war crimes related evidence. The note below is material to an ongoing war crimes investigations.

Data disclosed on the DNI document provdes alleged evidence linking the President, Vice President, DOJ OLC, OVP, and White House counsel with war crimes evidence. The designation will show you that assertions about telecom-gathered evidence are likely linked with a war crimes concern.

The information below will be further developed. Other links will be provided discussing how this war crimes evidence can be tracked into the non-public files in DOJ OLC.

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This may help provide context to some of the classification markings in re NSA classified programs.

This will help you understand what the lined-out codes mean.

DNI Document

The partial classification includes a key term, "MR":

Top Secret SI NF MR

NF - Secret NOFORN

MR - Manual Review

Manual Review

This is a key, important finding and disclosure. It tells us that a specific, foreseeable event would warrant manual review of this document. Because NSA and National Intelligence has disclosed there was a key event that would trigger a manual review for declassification, we can ask about those key, foreseeable, discussed, and specific events. These were not vague, but something specific that was supposed to or anticipated could happen.

There are also to other areas related to Geneva and how statutes trump EOs:

Manual Review (MR) is: • Used where the information is to be declassified on the occurrence of a specific event • Used for derivatively classified documents where the “Declassify On” line with “Source document is marked “Originating Agency Determination Required” or “OADR” • Used in cases where E.O. 12958 requirements are superseded by statute, treaty, or other agreement • Required with the DoE markings Restricted Data and Formerly Restricted Data • Used on all NATO and Non-US classified information

The President has a problem. EO 12958 is something he and others inside DoJ OLC would know is tumped by the US Statute or Treaty requirement. MR would, when linked with a treaty, only be used when that treaty obligation were understood. DoJ OLC assertions that GEneva is vauge belie the MR markings on this evidence.

The President cannot claim, as he has done, that he can ignore an EO; or do something outside what an EO promises to do. DOJ OLC's problem is they've contradicted themselves. Today's TPMM discusses how the President would like to pretend the opposite: That EOs can be ignored. That's meaningless once the President and DNI mark a document MR, and are using that MR marking because of the statute that supercedes EO 12958.

- How does the President and DNI propose to explain away an EO; but the MR classifications on teh documents are contingent upon that EO, and fatally admit that the EO is superceded by statute and treaty obligations?

- What is outside counsel's current position on rendition in re MR designation, Geneva, and the alleged effort to dissuade public discussion of alleged war crimes attached to the telecoms, outside counsel, and firms linked with rendition and POW abuse?

- What excuse does the Congress have not to conduct an investigation of the President and Vice President in re alleged war crimes, evidence destruction, and violation of the US Constitution?

The MR classification shows the President and Vice President were using these classifications to hide evidence they knew did not put the President or his EOs above the Statute or any Treaty. Once the President and Vice President are linked with the MR-related documents, there's no excuse for Congress not to raise war crimes issues in re FISA violations, and how telecom-connected data was allegedly used to abuse, manipulate, and harass POWs and American civilians during wartime in violation of the Geneva Conventions.

Once MR is used in conjunction with a treaty obligation, this attaches NSA and the DNI document to Geneva. Some in OVP have suggested that the GEneva Conventions did not apply. This defies reason. The MR classification expressly links that document to the treaty; and the classification is linked with the known Geneva treaty requirements.

The MR markings on this DNI document fatally destroy any DOJ OLC or OVP legal counsel letter to the House Judiciary Stsaff Counsel. Within their own documents, the Vice President's staff counsel would know, or should know, that 32 CFR 2800 would require retention of data; and that the MR marking on this document would implicate Geneva and other treaty requirements.

Staff counsel for the Vice President on this MR-issue alone have contradicted themselves: They've asked Congress to provide authority for the Congressional review; yet this FOIA-related release expressly discloses the MR-terminology linking a treaty requirement to that classification. Staff counsel for the President in DOJ OLC or the OVP staff counsel would have us believe that Geneva requirements were vague. That's irrelevant: The MR classification, when linked with a treaty requirement, means there is no confusion. Rather, Addington under 32 CFR 2800 would have the legal obligation to fully ensure the documents marked with MR were properly classified, retained, stored.

Implications of "MR" In re Geneva, Statutes and US Constitution

The MR classification on the disclosed document contradicts the President and VIce President's legal counsel assertions. MR means the following:

1. The classification of that document, when linked with the EO, means the DOJ OLC and OVP staff counsel know that statute and treaties do trump the President's executive orders, contrary to their documented, out of court assertions;

2. The document with MR, when linked with a treaty requirement, means DOJ OLC and OVP staff counsel know the 32 CFR 2800 data retention/storage requirements could be attached with Geneva, a treaty requirement, despite assertions in the affidavits to the contrary;

3. The MR designation tells us staff counsel knows or should know that treaty requirements and statutes trump EOs, but assertions to the contrary using novel legal theories (Yoo/Bybee Memos) are not consistent with the MR classification they knew or should have known were used on documents they were reading and allegedly destroying;

4. The MR designation tells us the staff counsel should know that a treaty obligation, as part of the US Constitution, is a binding legal requirement on Addington, DoJ OLC staff, White House counsel, and the civilian legal counsel. This implicates the President in how he blocked DOJ OPR from reviewing this feigned attorney confusion before Congress in re Geneva and war crimes evidence. Attorneys cannot be "confused" about Geneva when the MR designation invokes a treaty requirement the telecoms and US government allegedly violated;

5. The attorney standards of conduct are the vehicle to review whether DOJ OPR has or has not been blocked from reviewing staff counsel compliance or non-compliance with Geneva, as was allegedly not done in re the Yoo-Bybee memos, any effort to claim the evidence is "privileged" appears to be dubious, casting doubts upon the Vice President's Legal Counsel April 2008 letter to Judiciary Staff counsel;

6. The DOJ AG Mukasey, when he said he will not enforce Geneva but rely on DOJ OLC memos saying Geneva does not apply, has a problem when evidence shows DOJ Staff did review MR documents. The DOJ AG should know that the MR designation, when it invokes Geneva, trumps the EO and the DOJ OLC memoranda; and

7. The MR Designation makes Mukasey's assertion -- that he will defer to DOJ OLC, not Geneva -- something that is not defensible, and contrary to how the MR designation should be used: It's used when it's understood that Geneva treaty obligations and US Statutes trump the EOs, something related to 32 CFR 2800 document retention.

Alleged False Agency Head Affidavits To Court to Illegally Suppress War Crimes Evidence On Dubious Pretext of National Security

Recall the DOJ IG exceptions. Once "national security" is invoked, the President can argue DoJ IG should not investigate. However, once MR is usedin conjunction with Geneva or the EO, the President is admitting that he's subject to something other than a simple assertion of "national security". Rather, when Geneva and the EOs are attached to the classification through MR, we need to look at the other side of the coin:

- How many false affidavits have the Agency heads signed not to protect a state secret, but to avoid public discussion of the MR classification, Geneva requirements, and the abuses relying on information the telecoms and US government illegally captured?

It appears the real objective of the affidavits by agency heads was to hide the known MR-Geneva-EO nexus, and the real problem: The evidence is war crimes evidence, and the affidavits are falsely claiming the documents are related to national security, when they are not, but linked with an effort to suppress admissible war crimes evidence.

OMNI Hotel in re Wecht and Digital Data Forensics

It also appears the contractors connected with the White House email "retention" project had a forensic expertise not to presrve data, but to destroy war crimes evidence. Subsequent data will show the link between the US Attorneys office, FBI, and civilian forensic data meetings at the OMNI Hotel in Philadelphia. These names and meetings last year are linked with the FBI, DoJ, and White House counsel's office.

Questions:

- Which documents clasified with MR designations were impermissibly destroyed despite no review or declassification, and no plan to preserve alleged war crimes evidence;

- How many of the digital data forensics-related meetings in re White House email retention did not adequately consider Geneva, the US Statutes which trump the EO and DOJ OLC memoranda;

- Despite knowing the MR could be linked with a spcific EO and Geneva treaty requirement, how many of the affidavits have falsely asserted that the issue was a "state secret";

- Which MR documents related to the telecom-US government discussion are linked with MR classifications related to Geneva;

- Despite the feigned confusion of Geneva, does NSA/DNI/DoJ/OVP have any documents that expressly use the MR designation related to the use of information to abuse POWs?

- How was illegally captured, unreliable information planted by the telecoms, OVP, or others with the GOP, then provided to interrogators, despite knowing the information was unreliable; and how was this known inaccurate information used as a pretext to abuse POWs in violation of Geneva;

- Once MR was used with these documents, when did Staff Counsel first realize they no longer could credibly argue that Geneva was vague; but that the MR designation meant there was evidence linking the nSA/DNI/telecoms to specific Geneva requirements related to how that captured information was or wasn't used during POW abuse sessions?

- When did the telecoms realize the information they illegally captured was subsequently illegally used to violate Geneva, and abuse POWs during Prisoners of War interrogations?

- How much of the telecom-US government discussions are expressly avoiding the MR-Geneva convention, because the OVP, DOJ OLC and White House counsel know that illegally captured information was unlawfully used during POW interrogations; and POWs were abused using dubious information the telecoms illegally captured?

- When did DOJ OLC staff counsel realize that the knowledge of the MR-classification in re Geneva would prompt a war crimes investigation and inquiry of DOJ Staff counsel documents, memoranda, and alleged complicity with alleged war crimes evidence destruction

Recasting Reluctance to Respond To This FOIA

On this MR point alone, as it relates to the EO or Geneva, the President and Vice President could be impeached; and all telecom discussions could be recast as nothing more than a ruse to deflect war crimes prosecutors from gaining access to this alleged war crimes evidence and information. Taken in this light, the telecoms and US government appear to be reluctant in responding to this FOIA, not because the information is correctly classified as a national security secret, but is allegedly linked with war crimes and evidence the telecoms and others hoped to dissuade legal oversight of these alleged war crimes.

Alleged War Crimes Evidence Hosted Outside US Government Control

Because of the MR designation, the mention of the treaty obligation, and the alleged telecom connection with illegally captured information, all documents related to the EFF-hosted information must be viewed as possible war crimes evidence; and the US government-telecom discussions must be considered as possible efforts to thwart public oversight, discussion, and review of possible war crimes-connected evidence in re telecoms, US government, and legal counsel.

Any effort to dissuade further discussion, commentary, or analysis of these documents as possible war crimes evidence could be construed by war crimes prosecutors as subsequent efforts to thwart enforcement of the laws of war. These are very serious issues potentially attached to telecoms, civilian legal counsel, and the current Vice President's counsel letter to the House Judiciary Staff Counsel in re Addington.

Data Mining In Light of Geneva

POWs may not be abused. It appears the DNI classification is linked with known Geneva treaty obligations which the telecoms and staff counsel knew or sholdhave known. These obligations would require evidence preservation. The telecoms need to explain what role they had at the Hawaii Conference for the NSA telecoms and intermediaries; and how they used digital data forensics experts not to retain data but allegedly destroy war crimes evidence linked through the MR classification and Geneva.

The data mining must consider the real possibility that the unspoken problem the telecoms and government are dancing around in these EFF-hosted memos is nothing more than war crimes and unlawful use of that illegally captured information to abuse POWs in violation of Geneva. The EFF-hosted information must be secured and safeguarded as possible war crimes evidence.

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4 of 128 does some selective parsing. The problem with the slide is this:

"the fact that American citizens civil and constitutional rights were not affected"

FISA applies when American citizens rights are affected, either at home or overseas. It's a misnomer to believe FISA only applies to the United States; US citizens, located overseas, are still protected.

The issue is how the illegally captured information is subsequent used in other illegal ways.

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There's an illusory problem: 5 of 128 does not address retroactive warrants; or situations when the AG does determine no warrant is required. Putting aside the FISA court, the provision/change would not remove the retroactive warrant option or AG determinations.

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Most likely this reference relates to the NSC discussions, to include key names of NSA personnel providing the information at the NSC.

The redacted information may lists the names of NSA employees the NSA IG is coordinating with to do this review, and discusses information the National Security Council has reviewed or should know about.

This suggests that someone on the NSC may have reviewed information that was illegally captured by the NSA related to a domestic person.

The information redacted most likely includes the numbers of US citizens. This has been redacted most likely because the NSA and President do not want the State level AG's to know the scope of the violations of state citizens' rights.

The question is how the minimization procedures were bypassed; how the redacted information, stripped of identifying information, was used to generate media messages; and how the telecoms transferred this information to other NSA contractors affiliated with the NSA telecoms.

6 of 128 has FOIA exceptions to block fully disclosure of the slide:

Record(s) that are of a personal nature and the disclosure of the information would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of an individual's privacy.
Record(s) that, if disclosed would prejudice the public body's ability to maintain the physical security of custodial or penal institutions occupied by persons arrested or convicted of a crime or admitted because of a mental disability.
50 USC 403: Subject to the authority, direction, and control of the President, the Director of National Intelligence shall— (3) consistent with section 1018 of the National Security Intelligence Reform Act of 2004, oversee and direct the implementation of the National Intelligence Program.
TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 37 > § 798 Prev | Next § 798. Disclosure of classified information
Public Law 86-36 (50 U.S. Code 402 note)

This page contains a list of records which have been requested frequently. The records have been located but are not releasable. This list contains a description of the material and reason for its protection.

AMEX/IMPACT card holders

This list is composed of the names of NSA/CSS employees. The names of employees are protected under the third exemption of the FOIA, which provides for the withholding of information specifically protected from disclosure by statute. The specific statute applicable in this case is Section 6, Public Law 86-36 (50 U.S. Code 402 note). Public Law 86-36 allows for the protection of the names of NSA/CSS employees, as well as the functions and activities of the Agency.

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Changes To Briefing Classification Terminology

Note the classification on 2 of 128 to something shorter on 7 of 128.

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Noforn Change Between Two Documents

8 of 128 shows the full "NOFORN" on the classification line, while NF is used on 4 of 124

Note the dates of the documents.

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The lined-through number on 8 of 128 at the top of the classification line, is code for declassification, or the "declassify on"-number, and is the same as the lower right right number, same page:

20321128

The same relationship is on 10 of 128, but shows a different declassification date:

20391123
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13 of 128 shows the "ORCON" classification.

It is illegal to use ORCON to hide evidence of illegal activity, as is suspected is being illegally done. The issue is whether the illegal activity is just a FISA violation, or Geneva violations: Use of illegally captured information to "justify" abusing POWs or American citizens.

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13 of 128 has a redacted contact point, most likely a phone number.

This may shed light on this contact information:

If you have any questions concerning this matter, please contact Mr. Peter Petrihos, in the Office of Legislative Affairs, at 703-482-5616.

Petrihos is also listed with (202) 201-1156 ( 2022011156, Zipcode 20032), associated with Chemical and Biological Defenses.

Email, IP Header From NSA

Through FOIAs and Congressional subpoenas the following classified information related to the IP number for the DNI, and conduct some analysis on the emails:

Davi M. D'Agostino, (202) 512-5431 or dagostinod@gao.gov

You'll want to look for any emails from Turner at NSA.

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Warning

The information that has been declassified may still contain inaccurate information. This shows that the information on 14 of 128 is inaccurate.

This was classified on 20070108, intended to be classified for 25 years until 2032. It's not clear if the "lost" data in the Los Angeles Times article (Feb 2008) is or is not the same problem with the "lost" data in the NSA whitepaper (20070108).

It's non-sense that in 2007-8 time frame, the US intelligence community, this many years after 9-11, still has inadequate staffing support to ensure the analysts can focus on analysis; and that there is sufficient backup staff to process required warrants. This is not impressive, especially when the nation might have mobilized with a draft, and inducted qualified civilians into key military positions.

When leaders attempt to conduct a show-string response to foreign threats, we've seen they will ignore the legal requirements. Those who are cutting corners to fight an enemy are also cutting the corners on the Constitution. When you cross the line, you are not in a position to compel any American to follow you.

the problem the NSA has is that it appears to be a greater threat to the Constitution than people living in caves. We're not obliged to trust you, especially with this abuse of power and legal double talk.

The other programs haven't been officially disclosed:

- Warrantess surveillance and interrogations of American civilians;
- Illegal pretextual stops under the guise of investigations and counter terror;
- Permission to falsify records;
- Retroactively draft procedures to legalize misconduct to avoid investigations and lawsuits;
- Fabricating evidence to "legalize" affidavits and seal evidence of war crimes
- Rendition

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Warning in re Incidental Acquisitions

See: Section 2.3 for the exceptions the AG can fabricate to justify retaining illegally captured information. As you read this, recall the FBI director's repeated assertion, "We were following protocols":

[Added text:]

2.3 COLLECTION OF INFORMATION

Agencies within the Intelligence Community are authorized to collect, retain or disseminate information concerning United States persons only in accordance with procedures established by the head of the agency concerned and approved by the Attorney General, consistent with the authorities provided by Part 1 of this Order. Those procedures shall permit collection, retention and dissemination of the following types of information:

(a) Information that is publicly available or collected with the consent of the person concerned [was it informed consent; if they refuse can you use an NSL or FBI home visit ala Wecht Jury trial members, then twist their words to pretend they "really" consented?];

(b) Information constituting foreign intelligence or counterintelligence, including such information concerning corporations or other commercial organizations. Collection within the United States of foreign intelligence not otherwise obtainable shall be undertaken by the FBI or, when significant foreign intelligence is sought, by other authorized agencies of the Intelligence Community, provided that no foreign intelligence collection by such agencies may be undertaken for the purpose of acquiring information concerning the domestic activities of United States persons [DoD ignored this];

(c) Information obtained in the course of a lawful foreign intelligence, counterintelligence, international narcotics or international terrorism investigation [This President has legalized everything, even illegal acdtivity];

(d) Information needed to protect the safety of any persons of organizations, including those who are targets, victims or hostages of international terrorist organizations [We're violating your rights for your safety; pay not attention to the lack of prosecutions and bungled combat operations that should have exploited this information];

(e) Information needed to protect foreign intelligence or counterintelligence sources or methods from unauthorized disclosure. [Intelligence personnel can be compromised as retaliation, see Valarie Plame] Collection within the United States shall be undertaken by the FBI except that other agencies of the Intelligence Community may also collect such information concerning present or former employees, present or former intelligence agency contractors or their present or former employees, or applicants for any such employment or contracting;

(f) Information concerning persons who are reasonably believed to be potential sources or contacts for the purpose of determining their suitability or credibility [How many Americans don't know they're potential sources subject to ongoing evaluation?];

(g) Information arising out of a lawful personnel, physical or communications security investigation [DOJ OLC legalized it, so they keep the information];

(h) Information acquired by overhead reconnaissance not directed at specific United States persons [SIGINT Drift net, "We just happened to notice this in the broad sweep during training. . ."];

(i) Incidentally obtained information that may indicate involvement in activities that may violate federal, state, local or foreign laws [Any more "mays" and it might be obvious: There is no standard, just guessing]; and

(j) Information necessary for administrative purposes [Very vague, catch all, hide the errors here].

In addition, agencies within the Intelligence Community may disseminate information, other than information derived from signals intelligence, to each appropriate agency within the Intelligence Community for purposes of allowing the recipient agency to determine whether the information is relevant to its responsibilities and can be retained by it. [More of the self-reviews done outside the FISA court. This means FISA doesn't need to be updated.]

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This is how DoD views the list, and what it authorizes domestically against US Citizens.

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NSA appears to be abusing secrecy by disclosing inaccurate information. Although something may be disclosed and non-redacted in the FOIA response, it doesn't mean the NSA information in that FOIA response is accurate. At best, the NSA disclosures appear to be misleading, but at worst confirmations Members of Congress in secret have been lied to.

Classified briefings to Congress in re incidental information are not consistent with NSA practices and cooperation with foreign intelligence. these inconsistencies are creating a larger credibility problem for the NSA. FOIA responses are supposed to get accurate information that will complement the disclosed information, and shed light.

This shows that incidentally acquired information is retained, and can be used. However, 19 of 128, text-line 7 implies the data is safeguarded. This is incorrect:

For over 30 years, NSA has developed [redacted] outside the definitions of electronic surveillance in FISA, and by all accounts, it has handled any incidentally-acquired US person communication in a manner that provides adequate protection for the privacy of these individuals.
The Intelligence Community may also accept incidentally acquired information about U.S. persons from foreign governments.

Recall the lesson of GCHQ's Gunn in re the UN monitoring. GCHQ does thigs inside the United States, and does get access to data which the NSA isn't supposed to be doing.

What the NSA does not mention is foreign intelligence gets access to this "incidental" information; and then can be used in a hand-off-like exchange: The US government will permit foreign intelligence to do things; then ask for the results of their approved targeting which would otherwise violate the US Constitution and FISA if done by the NSA.

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Its for the public to decide whether this information is or isn't of any interest. This is a dubious assertion:

"The witheld information consists of internal administrative inforrmation that is of no public interest such as database file number and certain logistical information" 5 of 7, para 11, line 3

Failure To Provide Data Generates Public Interest

Database file numbers are useful to know:

A. How is their data filed; B. Which software products are they using; C. Are there gaps in the files; D. Are these data file numbers appearing in other expected emails and storage locations, or have these files been deleted in violation of court orders E. Do the data file numbers appear elsewhere F. Which emails, files, and other documents contain these file numbers G. Which computers were used to create these files; has there been a complete search of these computers linked with these disclosed data files; or have the data files not been used as a Trojan Horse to trace how incoming data worked its way through DoJ OLC, White House counsel, OVP, and other staff counsel H. Is there evidence the computers linked with these data files have engaged in illegal use of their official resources I. What timelines and patterns are there with these data files J. Have data files gone missing related to key court decisions and affidavits reporting "no information" exists K. Has a special master been appointed to review classified version of these key data files to determine whether informatoin in these data files was properly redacted or withheld L. Are these data failes believed to be one thing, but really contain the key records establishing a link between the digital data forensics personnel linked with the OMNI hotel, FBI, White House, and WH email retention contractors?


"Certain logistical information" is too vague to help determine whether the information has or has not been properly withheld. "Logistics," as used here could involve:

1. Transfer of prisoners to abuse them; 2. Methods to transfer information illegally acquired; 3. Coordination with foreign intelligence to conduct additional screening and monitoring of US citizens using incidental information 4. FBI protocols to detain innocent American citizens, question them, and release them without a chance to consult an attorney 5. Methods to "coordinate with contractors," despite no real intention to coordinate, comply with data requirements, or safeguard war crimes evidence 6. Methods to move illegally captured information with the intent to provide to private counsel information for civil counsel to claim they have had proprietary data "stolen" as a pretext to conduct a fishing trip, coordinate with legal counsel, and transfer Presidential orders to block DOJ OPR from reviewing that DoJ OLC coordination with outside counsel on those alleged war crimes issues
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Its for the public to decide whether this information is or isn't of any interest. This is a dubious assertion:

"The witheld information consists of internal administrative inforrmation that is of no public interest such as database file number and certain logistical information" 5 of 7, para 11, line 3

Failure To Provide Data Generates Public Interest

Database file numbers are useful to know:

A. How is their data filed; . B. Which software products are they using; . C. Are there gaps in the files; . D. Are these data file numbers appearing in other expected emails and storage locations, or have these files been deleted in violation of court orders . E. Do the data file numbers appear elsewhere . F. Which emails, files, and other documents contain these file numbers . G. Which computers were used to create these files; has there been a complete search of these computers linked with these disclosed data files; or have the data files not been used as a Trojan Horse to trace how incoming data worked its way through DoJ OLC, White House counsel, OVP, and other staff counsel . H. Is there evidence the computers linked with these data files have engaged in illegal use of their official resources . I. What timelines and patterns are there with these data files . J. Have data files gone missing related to key court decisions and affidavits reporting "no information" exists . K. Has a special master been appointed to review classified version of these key data files to determine whether informatoin in these data files was properly redacted or withheld . L. Are these data failes believed to be one thing, but really contain the key records establishing a link between the digital data forensics personnel linked with the OMNI hotel, FBI, White House, and WH email retention contractors?


"Certain logistical information" is too vague to help determine whether the information has or has not been properly withheld. "Logistics," as used here could involve:

1. Transfer of prisoners to abuse them; . 2. Methods to transfer information illegally acquired; . 3. Coordination with foreign intelligence to conduct additional screening and monitoring of US citizens using incidental information . 4. FBI protocols to detain innocent American citizens, question them, and release them without a chance to consult an attorney . 5. Methods to "coordinate with contractors," despite no real intention to coordinate, comply with data requirements, or safeguard war crimes evidence . 6. Methods to move illegally captured information with the intent to provide to private counsel information for civil counsel to claim they have had proprietary data "stolen" as a pretext to conduct a fishing trip, coordinate with legal counsel, and transfer Presidential orders to block DOJ OPR from reviewing that DoJ OLC coordination with outside counsel on those alleged war crimes issues
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Public Interest in Phone/Fax Numbers

This is an invalid withhold and should be disclosed:

"Certain non-public administrative information that is of no public interest such as telephone and fax numbers is being withheld."6 of 7, para 12, line 5

The information can be used to cross-index names, contact information, organizations, timelines. Congress can ask the telecoms to report data in their files linked with these phone numbers, copies of reports, and rosters of key personnel attending key digital data forensics conferences at the OMNI hotel.

The phone numbers can be cross checked against FEC records to determine if incorrect or misleading information has been provided by DoJ legal counsel, law firms or their children to the FEC.

American citizens can review the phone numbers to determine which contractors are abusing their connection with DoD, and win favorable contracts; or how former US government officials and personnel are or are not appropriately using their telecommunications equipment.

The information may be useful to war crimes prosecutors to determine which phone numbers key personnel involved with the rendition program were using when attempting to destroy war crimes evidence, abuse prisoners, or violate the laws of war. The MR security classification must be linked with something, otherwise why bother mentioning Geneva and treaty obligations.

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Public Interest In Email Accounts in re Geneva

The stated "lack of interest"-excuse is dubious. The US Attorney firing emails disclosed the RNC email accounts. It is absurd to argue there is no public interest in the emails. We need to see them, as we did with the US Attorney-firing emails.

There are creative uses of this information which the intelligence community does not understand, or is fully aware could be valuable for conducting war crimes discovery:

"[T]hese documents contain telephone numbers, email addresses and other internal informatoin. . ." 7 of 7

We need the email addresses so we can ask the public to provide copies of information sent to/received from these emails.

We need to see a sample of the suppress email account information, and a copy of the redacted log showing the times the email account sent emails. This will help review the personnel timelines, workflows within DOJ, and compare work accomplishment rates between support staff: Are they doing bonafide work; or are they using the computer for non-official things?

Why hasn't DoJ management reviewed this sample data to ensure DoJ Staff counsel are only reviewing official-related websites, and not using their computer resources to talk to their spouses using non-secure email systems as the NSA and DOJ Staff are doing?

Why aren't the organizational extensions in the emails disclosed?

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44 of 128: Handwriting, upper right.

Office of Information and Privacy (OIP) is associated with DOJ and indirectly with Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI):

OIP/ODNI

Consistent with lower-right, "NSD-4"

NSD Equities

Example

This shows why an email name is important: WE can corss index the email name with a file within the NSA, White House, DoJ, or Congress. Let's use EFF files as an example: Knowing the hand writing, we can cross index this with the C:Drive, and confirm a key name.

This C: Drive at EFF connects with ODNI:

C:\Documents and Settings\awarden\Desktop\

ODNI will show us Warden's interest; then we can review the access to that C:drive to determine employee timelines, and whether key information suddenly went missing.

Someone saying there is "no public interest" is something doesn't understand how a computer file on a known computer can be lawfully remotely accessed, reviewed, and cross-indexed using open source information. Digital data forensics experts know how to, with a key pad, exercise a touch-point-click access to monitor a computer. The same can be done real time with those DoJ Staff counsel allegedly complicit with war crimes planning, and illegal contracts establishing language translation services for Prisoners of War interrogations.

War crimes prosecutors will want to know why this data was not reviewed when examining potential lines of inquiry into US government Geneva violations.

Real Example

Using a remote access feature, we could review this drive for key names in the emails linked with ODNI:

nga.mil/NGASiteContent/ StaticFiles/OCR/pf_janfeb08.pdf

- Who made updates to the original PDF file;
- Were these people making changes to hide war crimes evidence;
- Has the file been linked with law firms allegedly complicit with rendition planning, language translation, or scheduling of rendition air craft
- When did the firm access documents linked with the FISA conferences at the National Laboratories
- Which trip reports should have been filed when these conferences ended, and how are these trips reports cross indexed with other NSA-affiliated contractors from other jurisdictions?
- What are the vacancy codes for those positions?
- Can we talk to the formerly assigned personnel to establish if they have been threatened with prosecution for discussing the alleged war crimes?
- Which procedures are linked with these emails and office symbols; have those procedures been fully followed?
- Which planning meetings and other records are linked with these emails; who outside the US government has copies of these presentations still not provided by the US government?
- Does the entity with this office symbol file an annual report; if so, where is it?

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Let's pretend the court still isn't satisifed that emails are worth anything.

Let's pick a random email:

Lila Renchard
(202)616-3716
Lila.Renchard@usdoj.gov

we can check the registry for the fax number, and look for a specific file record of incoming documents. Let's pick a random employment document:

fax DD-214 form, Standard Form 50

This leads us to this person:

Lila Renchard at (202) 514-4012 or (202) 514-6123

According to Lila, we can get the performance appraisals sent, the copies of the fax cover sheets (which NSA will not provide), and the times these faxes were sent. If needed, the court can assign a special master to inventory the recycled paper, log the incoming faxes, then trace those incoming faxes to the external agencies reviewing the information of interest.

This number

(202) 514-4012

The right phone number will tell us which floor of the Hoover Building to monitor, and which DoJ staff to review while they are goofing off at their computers using them for non-official business while they update educational information about their favorite Prepatory High School in New Orleans.

The reason they're saying there's "no interest" in the information is they know the information links to things they don't want the court to know: That DOJ staff, despite claims of being "too busy to process FISA warrants," were,in fact, goofing off not processing FISA warrants. If they have enough time to redo a resumee, they surely don't have enough to do during this "time of crisis and limited resources." Let's get them out the door, save some money, and find people who are serious about cleaning up the reckless cess pool on the the DOJ Staff.

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53 of 128 shows a fax cover sheet, suggesting the excuses to suppress other fax cover sheets is a pretext.

- Why is it "OK" to disclose a Member of Congress fax; but not the sending Fax number for other faxes?

Look for the following in the upper right:

494

Also, this, which tells us something about the vault, type of security on the fax machine, and the filing system requirements for that classified data, and tells us who most likely has the access list, with which names:

SSC

The full code is this:

SSCI #2007-4877

which can be cross indexed to others who reviewed, received, or retransmitted the file. It's a Trojan Horse. we don't care so much about the content, only in tracking which information pipelines were used to transmit a known fax to which computers, machines, offices, and terminals. Then, knowing this, we can send other data, and see if the data is or isn't adequately handled, where it's dropped.

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This is a major problem with management. It suggests, despite sending people to learn about the "suppressed information" related to movement of things, that they're not trained on how to do this. The issue isn't that it's not interesting, but the opposite:They know the data, using statistics, can be backfilled to fill in the missing data. It can be done. Since they don't know how to do it, they've destroyed larger files than they needed to.

As the NSA expands the use of its new authorities, the absence of meaningful statistics on the numbers of errors [redacted] becomes even more troubling 55">http://www.eff.org/files/filenode/foia_C0705278/042108_odni.pdf">55 of 128

Imagine that, the NSA with all its PhDs and computers, would have us believe it hasn't developed a plan to conduct any monitoring of a given system, process, or cycle. These are the people who would have us believe the Iraq WMD data was real, when it was not; but that real data isn't there, when it is.

Targeting Errors

How does this happen? NSA has no data plan to even study the problem much less solve it. The PhD's working on this appear to be stupid. Not only are they not collecting data to analyze, they don't know how to analyze the data.

They have no data to manage their growth, expansion, or new activity. This is called a program that has had no plan to actually do what they've "always" wanted to do. We need to get some visibility into the NSA's technical engineering, program management plans, and how its software development is being managed. This information doesn't give confidence they have a good management team in place, nor a plan to effectively manage these changes. This is not impressive: They've had plenty of time, known the requirements, and are stll fumbling around. The NSA contractors don't seem to have an answer, but we're being asked to trust them on self-reviewing illegal activity. That defies reason.

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NSA Software Baseline, Program Management Data

This comment tells us some important things:

Nonetheless, if the government deems these incidents [plural] to be in compliance with its targeting procedures, then the incidents are, by definition, the result of the procedures.

What's happened is Members of Congress are discussing with the NSA the targeting errors. They're trying to understand how this is happening. What they're not looking at are how the original software requirements were or were not adequately incorporated. Rather than look at the software, they're talking about procedures. They can't track to the procedures, or aren't sure; so there's no point in pretending the software is stable along those uncertain, non-tracked requirements.

What's causing the problem isn't the process or the procedures, but the defect in the software which doesn't automatically prevent these errors from occurring. There isn't an internal check, before the target is engaged, to ensure the target meets the criteria. They're chasing the errors after the problem, as opposed to internally checking for the problem before engaging the target.

Rather than focus on developing a robust software product that eliminates the errors, they're still struggling with explaining away the errors in terms of procedures. It defies reason that the same entity that has no data-collection/analysis plan for these incidents has adequately demonstrated, on a small scale, that they can effectively use the software, screen the target, and ensure the targeting adequately incorporates the minimization requirements into the internal test-check before target engagement. They've got code that they're trying to put bandaids on, but they don't have the resources to do a complete overhaul and get it right.

Congress needs to get a straight story from the NSA SETA contractors and get a plain english explanation for what needs to be really done to address these targeting errors. NSA and the White House need to explain why the funding for this was cut. "Iraq mission requirements put our NSA modernization program at risk." Hello, Pearl Harbor II. The reason they want a FISA update is so they can avoid making the needed software changes to fully perform at the current requirement. But the failure to meet the requirement will not get solved by changing the requirement; The same crew that has a problem with current requirements definition still won't get it right with a FISA update.

But pretend you don't like the above. Here's the sinker, we're told Dec 18, 2007, five months ago:

I also have concerns about the absense of adequate minimization procedures

The issue is'nt the procedure, but the self-evident lack of software which will comply with the law. They don't have procedures, so there's no point arguing over whether the software is good or not: It doesn't do the job, especially when the procedures needed to baseline the software requirement do not exist. It's 2008. We've had computers since the 20th Century. These NSA notes suggest they're still struggling with basic coding theory, not to mention competent targeting for national intelligence.

Even if there is a process, this crew isn't sure if the requirement is met; or the process is meeting the legal requirement. Their solution is to expand the drift net size, but never provide a solid answer or program that will do it right. They need a new program manager who isn't going to feed Congress baloney. This is what happens when Members of Congress and the President refuse to cooperate to prevail within the law. They're trying to legislate in 2008 issues which should have been incorporated into the NSA's software baseline long ago.


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98 of 128 EO 12333 supposedly binding on intelligence community. Even if DOJ OLC says otherwise?

See section 2.5.

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Wikipedia:
149.101.1.130
wdcsun30.usdoj.gov

71.178.102.65

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Eisenberg, OLC

Calendar meeting with Feinstein, 2:30PM, Monday, November 5th, 2007.

Transcript: 2006.

Part of the DOJ-WHite House strategy appears to be to segregate the DOJ FISA issues from Geneva violations. Allegedly, unlawful surveillance gleaned unreliable information used to subsequent abuse, render, and mistreat POWs in violation of the Geneva Conventions.

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31 October 2007: Philbin Testimony to Senate Judiciary

FOIA To Establish DOJ OLC Employee Timeline

These are not statements of fact, nor conclusions of law, nor allegations of (war) crimes against Eisenberg or Philbin.

To investigate alleged connection between war crimes, FISA violations, and DOJ OLC, we need a timeline of all DoJ OLC emails into White House counsel, outside counsel, and to the department general counsels since 2001. Focus on his background related to E-discovery training, conferences, and litigation/interaction with expert witnesses on E-discovery.

Identifying Information

Eisenberg clerked for Justice Thomas October TERM 2003 SCOTUS CLERKS, formerly clerked for Judge Lutting, 4th Cir.

Education,
- Yale Law (2001) (Also seeing Yale 2002)
- Stanford 1991

(Ref: House Report H.R. 5825, 109th Cong, 2nd Sess; SEPTEMBER 12, 2006; Serial No. 109-131; Hearing, "ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE MODERNIZATION ACT")



- Which DoJ OLC staff would know the clerks, who still had access to the Juror names in re Wecht?

Sample Identifying Name

Source:

Federal Register: August 23, 2007 (Volume 72, Number 163), Page 48302-48307

Office of Legal Counsel--OLC

KOFFSKY, DANIEL L., SPECIAL COUNSEL
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HART, ROSEMARY A., SPECIAL COUNSEL
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COLBORN, PAUL P., SPECIAL COUNSEL
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EISENBERG, JOHN A., DEPUTY ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL
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ELWOOD, JOHN PATRICK, DEPUTY ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL
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PAPEZ, ELIZABETH, DEPUTY ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL
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BRADBURY, STEVEN G., PRINCIPAL DEPUTY ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL
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ENGEL, STEVEN A, DEPUTY ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL

Alleged War Crime Evidence Preservation

We need a timeline of Eisenberg's activities. He's involved with the litigation. He's been jumping back and forth between:

A. The alleged disclosure of NSA logbooks;

B. FISA discussions with Senators.

Funds Transfers

He's connected with conference Room, as a panelist: McDonough 202, triggering funds transfers/credit card receipts for the hotel, air fare, and conference fees. Look for the DOJ OLC emails sent related to this trip; and coordination with other DOJ-personnel appearing.

Would like to see his credit card receipts for the fuel related to this conference at this address:

September 10, 2007

Georgetown Law Center
National Security Center
McDonough 202
McDonough Hall, Hart Auditorium
600 New Jersey Ave NW
Washington, DC 20001

Email Headers To Develop Timeline

We need a timeline of the emails Eisenberg sent, from which IP's using which DoJ/private email account, and determine where he was.

I would like to know the reasons for the law firms interest in both FISA and Geneva issues/allegations.

Please discuss the DoJ OLC coordination with sics.se in re CALEA inputs.

How are firms able to support rendition, FISA violations, but stay ISO compliant?

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This isn't correct, it's a different Eisenberg:

He's involved with the litigation. He's been jumping back and forth between:

A. The alleged disclosure of NSA logbooks;

Eisenberg in re NSA logbooks was plaintiff counsel, different counsel, not with DOJ.

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Where is the GAO on this?

Congress needs a statement from Kutz on issues he's been notified, pending investigations, and other data-retention issues in re FISA/Geneva.

Gregory Kutz, Director,
Forensic Audits and Special Investigations, GAO

What is GAO's plan to review the US Government's Geneva obligations in re war crimes evidence preservation?

Does GAO have a plan to monitor the Italian War Crimes prosecutor's progress in re rendition?

When GAO provide Congress of standards, performance reviews, and other oversight that should have been applied when the White House prepared its email "retention" plan?

Has anyone told GAO they may not look at any rendition related records or digital data at contractors facilities?

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Suppressed Emails Have Been Disclosed Elsewhere in the US Attorney Firings

It cannot be argued that previously disclosed emails can now be suppressed.

Unclear if Reyes refers to

- Reyes, Luis (SMO)

- Reyes, Luis (EOP)

- Reyes, Carmen (USATXS)

Reyes">http://www.eff.org/files/filenode/foia_C0705278/032508_olc.pdf">Reyes is listed on 3 of 3.

Goodling sent an email SEpt 13, 2006 to Reyes.

Search this for:

Luis-A.-Reyes@who.eop.gov


How many of the legal counsel, really working for the White House have, on paper, been assigned to DOJ?

Is it possible to assign someone to SMO, even though they really work for EOP?

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Review memo sent to Reyes and Others, three years prior.

DOJ Document Dump file 11-1

Mercer, Bill (USAAMT)
From: Richmond, Susan
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 8:15 PM

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Different method to access Reyes' email with EOP:

See the PDF file, and do a search for Reyes.

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JCON in DoJ: War Crimes Evidence Preservation

Reyes on the Eisenberg. is connected with SMO, Senior Management Offices (SMO); SMO is connected with JCON in DOJ.

This is the contract DOJ uses to maintain records for their calendars. Prosecutors should determine whether the calendars provided on this FOIA do or do not match those in the the contract number below:

See: Contract Number: 6C-N-JMD-0049

Because of the JCON connection with WestLaw and Lexis, it's most likely the DOJ Staff is connected with JCON when they used their calendars.

Contractor Records:

CSC (prime);
Northrup Grumman Information Technology;
McDonald Bradley;
SuprTek;
GMSI

The following are specifications the war crimes prosecutors and forensics analysis should be familiar when reviewing the JCON IT products used:

From

The standard JCON package includes ------------------------------------ the Microsoft Windows desktop operating system; ------------------------------------ Corel WordPerfect; ------------------------------------

Microsoft Exchange and Novel Groupwise for e-mail, calendar and scheduling;
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UNIX/Solaris/Microsoft Windows network operating systems;
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plus any other hardware, software or services your division requires.
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JCON also provides access to legal tools, including WestLaw and Lexis/Nexis JuriSoft.

The CSC team provides the following services for JCON:
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Specialty engineering studies
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Internet and intranet design and implementation
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Oracle database development
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System maintenance
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Help desk
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User training
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Site surveys, installation and implementation
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Systems engineering and integration
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Transition planning, including data migration and conversion
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Architecture and system design

Discovery

Where is the JCON auditing plan to ensure all alleged war crimes evidence is safeguarded?

Who on GAO forensics has reviewed this JCON data retention plan, and what were the results per SAS/GAGAS standards?

In re the JCON-listed contractors, do we have any SAS74 issues in re funds to entities getting US government funds?

How are names on EOP email processed when those persons are assigned to DOJ's SMO?

Did Reyes go through JCON when he changes his email from EOP to DOJ; if so, where was this change documented in writing, and whose other names/emails are on these records with JCON?

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Justice Management Division IP Numbers

JMD acts as the DOJ agency that interfaces with the JCON management.

149.101.1.32/jmd

Hexagonal: 0225.0145.01.040/jmd


Use this term for the search of the JCON cotract data with the FOIA:

JMD-JCON PRO MG

Sample JCON-associated line item:

DJJ03F0802

Use this with the contractor's databases, example Northrop-Grumman:

JMD JCON PMO

Outside Data

Remind the ISPs that they have a responsibility to secure information, contact information, and other data of interest to war crimes prosecutors. Here is a sample MySpace page of "William" self-reporting they worked with JCON, who may be able to clarify questions about the JCON.

profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user. viewprofile&friendID=12848143

Backup:

snipurl.com/270nt

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Data Caretaking Program

This FOIA response isn't adequate. We need the contractor-related data showing files, communication archives, and other management-level data. We're less interested in the content (for now), than in looking at the patterns of communications between disclosed names on the Calendar.

Reyes email was disclosed in connection with JCON and the JMD contract. We need to find the contractor records that audit these files, and ensure the evidence is still there and preserved/safeguarded.

The court also needs to see the detailed records of the JCON management files to ensure that no files have been deleted; when the classified/non-disclosed files were accessed, who reviewed the file, and who last looked at the still-available files.

If the evidence is destroyed or goes missing despite the JCON data preservation option, the Court needs to immediately know who accessed the data, when it was last reviewed, and when it was first reported missing or not available.

The data needs to enter a care-taker status: Although not disclosed (yet), there need to be periodic (Monthly) certifications by auditors that they've accessed JCON data, ensured the still-classified/non-disclosed data is still available, and has not been destroyed.

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Marcia Hoffmann with EFF needs to be involved with the JCON oversight, and how the process is going to ensure data is preserved.

EFF needs to see the above JCON information in re their FOIA into DOJ -Contractor communications on FISA. It appears DOJ has not been responsive, and there are many JCON-related management documents which would assist the court and EFF. These should have been disclosed.

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It’s the US government position that DoJ emails should not be disclosed for privacy purposes. However, this did not stop email disclosures in re US Attorney firing. The evidence shows emails can be useful in monitoring how US government officials use their time. At this juncture, the interest is not (yet) in the content of the mails, only to explore whether there is something about the timing of emails in re contractor lobbying which is not appropriate.

The open DoJ information shows legal counsel were using US government computers for non-official business. It would not be surprising to find evidence that DOJ Staff, while they were supposedly “busy” with FISA issues, were, in fact, engaged in non-official discussions unrelated to FISA.

- US government refuses to disclose emails, which could be used to conduct the same oversight of the US government uses when reviewing US citizen emails.

- The emails could be used the same way the US government says they’re using US citizen emails: Finding patterns of communications, contacts, and other connections.

- Dubious proposition for the legal counsel responding to the FOIA to suggest that there is “no” public interest. The US government is interested in US citizen emails, but cannot credibly argue that US citizens cannot review US government officials similar information.

- US Government cannot claim this is a “privacy” issue in re shielding some DOJ email accounts when the US government ignored that principle when reviewing US citizen emails. Anything the US government did in re private citizen emails should be permitted by oversight of the DOJ Staff counsel. If the US government was reviewing US citizens’ emails for a legitimate reason and fully complying with the law, then they should not object to similar lawful review of US government official information.

However, the inconsistency is telling. Either:

A. The US government lied, and did look at other information in the emails; Or

B. The US government wants a double standard: A pretext to review US citizen emails; but a different standard for others to review DOJ Staff emails; OR

C. The US government has communicated information which, if reviewed as the US government has reviewed US citizen emails, would disclose important information warranting disbarment or prosecution of DOJ Staff counsel in re war crimes.

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45 of 128 shows Reyes, with the House Judiciary Committee, unclear whether the Reyes name refers to the Member of Congress, EOP Staff, or DOJ Staff (SMO), as discussed here.

Identifying information behind the names on the Calendars would help pinpoint who the DOJ Staff are or are not meeting with to discuss the US government discussions with the telecoms on the FISA immunity efforts.

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2 of 78: Elliot Mincberg fax to McConnel.

1977 Harvard Law
Judiciary Chief Counsel for Investigations

People for the American Way
2000 M Street, NW, Suite 400
Washington, DC 20036
Telephone: 202-467-4999 or 800-326-732
@pfaw.org

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Compare Different Redactions

NSA and DOJ have no credibility.

Different questions from the House do or do not get redacted. Do the House/Senate Judiciary Committees not have enough information to ask a classified question?

Clean questions: 6 of 78, Sept 18, 2007, House Judiciary.

Redacted questions: 14 of 128, October 16, 2007, House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

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Here are the Senate Judiciary questions.

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27 of 50: Robert N Tracci To Catalina Cabral, Feb 8, 2008 11:21 AM

Name: Usman Ahmad

Copy of AG Mukasey Testimony, Feb 7th, 2008 to House Judiciary.

See page 30 of 50 to see tracking, who read the file: 2/8/08, 11:30 AM, nine [9] minutes after it was sient.

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Same DoJ Staff Counsel Working on FISA and Geneva Issues

A. FISA

32 of 50: Benczkowski letter from Leahy in re FISA.

B. Geneva Issues

As Background, Benczkowski's name involved with the DOJ OLC memoranda, reported in NYT.

Mr. Benczkowski’s letters were in response to questions from Mr. Wyden, whose committee had received classified briefings about the executive order.

Before the US invaded Iraq, Iraq "threatened" to attack DC if the US invaded Iraq. The US did invade Iraq, but there was no Iraqi terrorist attack on DC. The "threatened" attack was not a credible threat to attack the US, but designed to dissuade the United States from invading. Based on dubious claims of foreign powers, American citizens are being told they must endure indignities, intrusions, and illegal DOJ OLC activity:

“The fact that an act is undertaken to prevent a threatened terrorist attack, rather than for the purpose of humiliation or abuse, would be relevant to a reasonable observer in measuring the outrageousness of the act,” said Brian A. Benczkowski, a deputy assistant attorney general, in the letter, which had not previously been made public.

In classic DOJ OLC-OVP misdirection (explain away the irrelevant standard), this ignores the Geneva prohibition against all POW abuse:

In one letter written Sept. 27, 2007, Mr. Benczkowski argued that “to rise to the level of an outrage” and thus be prohibited under the Geneva Conventions, conduct “must be so deplorable that the reasonable observer would recognize it as something that should be universally condemned.”
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Breaching Privilege

There's a way to ask for specific information connected with the DOJ I:Drive. We have a specific name. Using that name, it's possible to trace a document, who accessed that document, and which DOJ OLC staff counsel are connected with the I:Drive at a specific time.

This shows a discovery line for a FOIA in re Geneva, FISA violations, and the telecom-US government discussions. This shows you how to find the specific access times for the DOJ I:Drive on a specific document which known personnel connected with DOJ OLC have accessed. Using the access times, IP connections, and other file sharing information, it's possible to determine which DOJ OLC staff counsel were or were not connected through JCON to a specific document.

This information is a sample of how to trace this JCON data within the I:Drive, which names to look for, and which IP numbers and DOJ OLC staff counsel should appear on the FOIA request.

I:Drive JCON Data

The JCON data will link you to the IP numbers, other files, and the emails sent/received from that specific DOJ IP address. This creates a circle of communication within DOJ OLC on the Geneva violations, POW abuses, and coordination with OVP and DOD legal counsel on planned war crimes and unlawful rendition. The cell phones were paid using Small Business-connected language translation contracts.

Once we know the IP numbers of DOJ OLC-connected legal counsel using this I:Drive, we can then review the JCON data to find out why these DOJ Staff counsel were using official US government computers to discuss the following, unrelated to Geneva or FISA or any DOJ issue:

- Their private automobile preferences
- Comments about the BMW's parked on DOJ property
- Educational updates on high school data
- Cooking recipes
- Discussions on gambling using DoD General Counsel computers

DOJ OLC Legal Counsel "Legalize" Abuse: Where Are They, and What Else Is Permissible?

DoJ OLC has former House Judiciary Staff counsel: Benczkowski.

He left 10/17/06.

Was this when DOJ and GOP realized the GOP would lose control of the House?

Here "Counsel" refers to the GOP, Majority Counsel.
Name ...................... End Date
Andrew R Arthur 11/01/06

Andrew R. Arthur was sworn in today as an immigration judge for the York Immigration Court during an investiture ceremony at 2:00 p.m

Geneva violations, permissible outrages against civilians. Is that who we want reviewing immigration cases? Those seeking relief from overseas oppression will not get sympathy from DOJ OLC-connected judges who say POW abuse is "OK".

Address:

5107 Leesburg Pike, Suite 2500
Falls Church, VA 22041
(703) 305-1247

I: Drive

This leads from Andrew Arthur, to the Immigration Court. Here's the practice manual (to DOJ Website):
] snipurl.com/274kz ]

The document is avaiable on the DOJ I:Drive

I:\OCIJPracManual\Appendix B EOIR Directory.wpd

Where are the JCON access times/lists for those who have reviewed other similar I:Drive documents linked with Geneva, DOJ OLC, FISA, and the telecoms?

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Note throughout this calendar, the Members of Congress were not mentioned as "Senator" or "Representative."

John Eisenberg simply entered "Feinstein". Appears Eisenberg did the same with "Reyes". Most likely "Reyes" refers to Representative Reyes, not Reyes in DOJ SMO/EOP. Need confirmation.

Some of the appointments which have been redacted have some small corners of text on the left side of the schedule.

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19 of 78 refers to multiple meetings and late staff hours, however, 66 of 128 has limited staff assignments, and the calendars do not support the assertions about staffing support.

- Which meeting times (not content) was the DNI referring to?

- Why was there no data to support his assertions on page 19 of 78?

- What data does DNI plan to provide, and when to justify some belief about his assertions in writing to Congress on staffing requirements to support responses?

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4 of 64 shows redacated classification line, not lined through, but electronically boxed to create appearance of being covered with tape. The classification line cannot be completely read.

Why were some classifications lined through, while others were boxed?

Were different people redacting one set of classifications with boxes, while others used the line-through; or were the same people redacting the classification line, but using different methods?

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7 of 64 shows a minute-by-minute timeline for May 15, 2007.

All the events have a time by them, but one. Please explain why there was no time listed for the contact with the command center between 5:30 and 7:18.

Where are the records for incoming calls on May 15, 2007?

Who reviewed the command center calls for May 15, 2007?

How were these calls on May 15, 2007 also documented in JCON emails; is there any evidence there were other calls not included in the timeline?

Summary Timeline With Missing Command Center Time

10:00
10:52
12:53
12:53
5:15
5:30
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[Missing Time: IOPR Attorney contacted Command Center]
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7:18
7:28

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8 of 64 is Reyes letter to McConnel, timeline in re NSA combat support.

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Cherry Picking From Guidance, Statutes, Treaties

ODNI Burgess, June 2007 letter to House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

10 of 64 first para, shows documents dated pre Sept 2001. Some documents are dated in the early 1980s, and cited as if still controlling.

However, 11 of 64 shows the AG was given a copy of this information, but DOJ AG Mukasey has provided no evidence that he disagrees, or will not enforce the following legal requirements binding on him and other US government officials:

- Procedures to collect, retain, disseminate informatoin concerning us persons (OCtober 1982) ...................................................................... - DoD Regulation 5240, 1-R (December 1982) ...................................................................... - Classified Annex (April 1988) ...................................................................... - AG Approved Annex (May 1988) ...................................................................... - NSA Internal Procedures (USSID 18) derived from AG-approved procedures (1993 last update, as of this letter) ...................................................................... - Annex, AG-Approved (1997)

FISA goes back to 1978. However, the President and others in DOJ, NSA, and DoD have said the world changed after 2001. Yet, there are still documents pre 9-11 that are still being used. One cannot credibly argue that some 1978-FISA provisions should be ignored; but the 1978-1997 documents are listed as still conrolling.

- Who is deciding that some pre 9-11 documents should be ignored, while others are enforced?

- What is the explanation of DOJ OLC legal counsel for not, after Sept 2001, throwing away all the annexes created after 1978 FISA, and starting new in 2001?

- Whare are some pre Sept 2001 documents getting ignored, but others are enforced?

- How does DOJ AG Mukasey explalin to the public his rationale to ignore some legal requirements, but stll use others which pre-date Sept 2001?

- What criteria is AG Mukasey using to justify why some Geneva/FISA requirements are not going to be enforced, but his staff is still citing documents dated pre-9-11 that are still controlling?

- Please explain why the President and DOJ AG view FISA of 1978 and Geneva of 1948 as not controlling, but other documents pre Sept 2001 are controlling?

- What is the explanation for not ignoring all pre Sept 2001 documents, requirements, legal standards, and treaties?

- Why is DOJ OLC saying after Sept 2001, Geneva and FISA do not have to be followed, but some 1980/1990-era documents are listed as controlling?

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- How does the Sec 401 definition for "electronic surveillance" relate to US Citizens who are located lawfully outside the United states?

- Is someone saying US citizens located overseas do not enjoy Constitutional protections against warrantless surveillance by US combat-support with the NSA or ODNI?

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25 of 64: Not widely-publicly-known classification line:

TOP Secret//SI//ORCON/NOFORN/FISA//

f

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JAG Handbook: Litigating National Security Cases

Guide: Classification markings


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Explanations for markings, exhemptions on FOIA documents.

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Guide to marking documents.

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64 of 64: These are the minimization terms.

There is a problem. The terms suggest there is a robust review to protect US person's names. This is not correct. If you cooperate with the NSA, JTTF, or AMerican intelligence your identity may be compromised.

The problem is when JTTF learns of information, but does not treat the information as a classified or warranting protection. JTTF does get access to information related to domestic surveillance by foreign nationals. However, there is not guarantee the US persons connected with this intelligence will be protected. Rather, JTTF may disclose to the foreign national/target the identity of the source and compromise to foreign intelligence the methods used to identify the target.

Once JTTF, local law enforcement, and national intelligence openly disclose a name and not protect it, there is a risk that the intelligence community may give that information to the target.

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34 of 124 Senator Whitehouse expresses displeasure with McConnel's slowrolling the legislation, but demanding expedited review. (Sept 4, 2007 letter)

One way a document is authenticated is when it refers to another letter.

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57 of 124

V/R> hand written

Федеральная служба безопасности Российской Федерации

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The US government has no jurisdiction in state courts. The United States government cannot block enforcement of State laws.

The US government is powerless to prevent state citizens from conducting investigations against US government officials, legal counsel, and others for alleged Geneva violations.

88 of 119 shows the incompetence of the telecom General counsel, DOJ OLC and White House counsel: They have no provision to enforce section 408 in state/non-United States Government courts.

The only means to enforce this is to prevent the States from enforcing State law. That is illegal.

This shows the inherent flaw of assuming the US government can control US citizens by passing Federal Laws that bypass the States and directly apply to US citizens.

It is illegal to threaten someone with arrest or prosecution if they assert their rights, 42 USC 1983. US citizens may lawfully enforce, through 42 USC 1983, the Constitution against US government officials, Members of Congress, and Telecoms; and 42 USC 1983 is the tool for private citizens to act as their own attorney general. Where the DOJ AG refuses to enforce GEneva, private citizens, while asserting 42 USC 1983, may present this evidence of alleged war crimes for subsequent prosecution. There is universal jurisdiction.

It is illegal to threaten someone with arrest, prosecution or other civil litigation for reporting alleged evidence of war crimes. The evidence of war crimes is not a protected state secret. Efforts to dissuade discussions of war crimes evidence is a subsequent offense under Geneva.

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That request for immunity, despite proving they are eligible for immunity, can be denied and/or not recognized by the States.

113 of 119 The telecoms will have to prove they are eligible for immunity. Notice the language is not saying, "that allegedly cooperate with the government," as was done with the earlier statements about telecom-US government cooperation:

"Companies that cooperate with the Government in the war on terror. . ."

- Where is the discussion on how the telecoms, in open court, will prove they are eligible for the immunity?

- Why is the "cooperation" not "allegedly cooperate"

- Why is there a change in the language from "allegedly cooperate" to "cooperate"?

- What prevents anyone from claiming they were, after 2001, a telecom, and cannot be prosecuted or sued?

- Can anyone, not just a telecom, claim immunity for FISA violations?

- What ensures someone does not invent something, and pretend they were doing something illegal, but then apply for, and get, immunity for something they didn't really do?

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45 of 60, Feingold 292, addresses the telecom cooperation.

Note the response includes "alleged," unlike the language in the bill.

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90-day "Transition" Window

118 of 119

"It would also allow for a smooth transition after the changes take effect."

- What is the basis for the 90-day window?

- Why should we believe 90 days will be sufficient?

- What is "transitioning"; be specific why you need 90 days.

- Wasn't this supposed to be mandatory, and required now; how can you say that 90 days, not an immediate change, is acceptable?

There's no reason to believe an "immediate" change is needed when you're openly admitting 90 days is sufficient for a change or transition. Then there is no emergency, and you have time to still comply with the existing requirements.

No more delays. Let's get on with the state level litigation against the telecoms and US government for this reckless defiance of FISA. Qwest balked. The other telecoms should have demanded warrants, not the worthless DOJ OLC assurances.

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Telecoms Retroactively Negotiating Contract Changes With Wrong Party

Congress was not delegated any Article 1 Section 8 power to make contracts, on behalf of state citizens, with commercial entities. Nor is Congress granted any power to negotiate on behalf of any State citizen to accept new terms which do not meet the legal requirements of the original contract between state level citizens and the telecoms.

The entire immunity agreement is not enforceable and illegal.

The telecoms are attempting to pretend that the existing contract they have with state-level citizens is something Congress has a say. Congress has no power over State-level contracts between state citizens and commercial entities, especially unilateral, retroactive changes to a commercial contract.

119 of 119 Is boilerplate language from a contract.

This language should have been included in the original contract language.

Because the contract retroactively changes terms for the State citizens, this language is not enforceable. State citizens never agreed to these terms.

The Congress is the wrong party for the telecoms to request a change in the contract. This change should be requested of the State citizens. The telecoms have refused to negotiate in good faith with state level citizens, warranting an upward adjustment.

Even the President concludes the "alleged" conduct is certain, and "would" result in financial penalties. That's something the Boards of Directors should have carefully considered before following illegal orders without securing a legally required warrant.

The President only has power to pardon for offenses against the United States. He cannot pardon the telecoms for violations of State law.

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Feb 6, 2008: 11:28 AM

Brian A. Benczkowski (OLA) letter to
John Boote,
Kathryn Haun (OAG),
Bassie L Meadows

cc: Lindsay Sweetin

[ Two (2) "not responsive" black-filled boxes, one (1) above, one (1) below email ]

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30 of 60, moreBenczkowski letters from 29 of 60; to 40 of 60.

Benczkowski asserts "highest" classification is TS/SCI (Top Secret, Sensitive Compartmented Information). This does not reconcile with the cryptographic classifications which were boxed out.

Why weren't these classifications visible?

If the documents were above TS SCI, which other safe, other than H-405 was involved with storing these documents (See 30 of 60)?

Who has control of this other safe used to store cryptographic-related documents?

Why were these not mentioned, disclosed, or discussed in the memoranda to EFF in the FOIA?

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47 of 60

Why wasn't this email redacted:

Jennifer_Price@judiciary-dem.senate.gov

Failure of DOJ to redact these Congressional emails sends a mixed signal about the "privacy concerns".


- Price's name is on a letter dated November 2007. Why isn't Price listed on the Senate Judiciary Committee Staff salary file, Apr-Sept 2007?

- Was she hired after September 2007; if so, why is her email included on a high profile FISA-related issue, why not a senior staffer?

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Price's name is not listed alphabetically here either, why not?

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49 of 60: Leahy and DOJ miss the point. This isn't a narrow US Federal Constitutional issue, but a broader state-level Constitution. The two are not the same.

Even if Congress shut down all federal lawsuits, the Congress has no power to block action in state courts against US government officials; nor can the Congress compel US citizens, after illegal activity has occurred, not to assert their rights in Federal Court. This, in effect, eliminates Constitutional protections members of Congress through 5 USC 3331 are sworn to uphold, not explain away.

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The US government transferred the cases to Federal Jurisdiction on the promise that the Federal Government would do something.

The proposed legislation would penalize state citizens for believing the Federal Judiciary might do something; but then puts the President and Congress over that promise, to block the Judiciary from reviewing the case.

COngress and the President cannot explain how the State AG's filed in Federal court, and did not block them from filing. It's too late to eject the case. Ejecting the case now would put the Judiciary at a subordinate role to the Congress and Executive. This defies the separate, but equal branch concept.

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47-60 of 60 Written questions from Senate Judiciary (Leahy, Feingold, Kennedy, Kyl) for Kenneth L. Wainstein, Assistant Attorney General.

Leahy: 48-51 of 60 (4 pages)
Feingold: 52-53 of 60 (2 pages)
Kennedy: 54-58 of 60 (5 pages)
Kyl: 59-60 of 60 (2 pages)

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Here are the House questions.

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Wainstein's Statements To Congress in re FISA Immunity

25 of 160 Kenneth L. Wainstein's remarks.

A. Written Statements

25-57 of 160: Senate Select Cmte Intelligence, Sept 20, 2007, redacted

59-85 of 160: House Select Cmte Intelligence, Sept 6, 2007, redacted

109-134 of 160, Senate Select Cmte Intelligence, Sept 6 2007

B. Oral Statements

136-143: Oral Statement, House Judiciary, Sept 18, 2007

145-152: Oral Statement, Senate Select Cmte Intelligence, Sept 20, 2007

154-160: Oral Statement, Senate Judiciary, Oct 31, 2007


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118 of 122 Wainstein written answers to Reyes, House Intelligence, Sep 14, 2007.

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10 of 61 AG Mukasey on POW abuse, comments to Leahy, Oct 24, 2007.

3 pages

10-12 of 61.

DoJ AG is arguing over what is or isn't torture; but missing the Geneva obligations: All abuse is illegal. It doesn't matter if the treatment is or isn't torture; or the abuse does or doesn't meet the definition of torture; or if someone does or doesn't intend to commit torture. All abuse is illegal.

Muksay's comments are convoluted on the POW abuse issue. He's shifting from the express language of Geneva that bars all abuse, and ignoring the legal constraints imposed by Geneva on the US government officials.

He's only narrowly looking at what types of abuse are prohibited through the US Constitution, but missing the larger restrictions which Geneva creates: First as a shield of rights for the POW; and second as a restraining leash of duties and responsibilities on the US government officials as detaining authorities.

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47 of 60: DoJ does not specifically answer Feingold's question (Feingold 308): Whether the US DOJ will or will not certify in the report that the US is fully complying with the statute.

A report that is "consistent" with requirements is not the same as a report that meets the requirements. DoJ response rewrites the requirements to something else. DOJ has not considered that Congress may disagree that DOJ has fully met the requirements; or that DOJ's definition of the requirements are accurate.

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49 of 60

Why didn't you come?

John Eisenberg
Thursday December 13, 2007 3:35 PM
To Brett Gerry

There were two meetings on Dec 13 2007: The names are blacked out. 68 of 128

Are the blacked out names Eisenberg and Gerry?


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Content of the email blocked:

(b)(5) inter-agency or intra-agency memorandums or letters which would not be available by law to a party other than an agency in litigation with the agency

- Did EFF get access to this content?

- Is the content about EFF?

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The EFF only includes Eisenberg's November calendar.

There was a meeting, someone didn't attend, this person was supposed to have attended, and they've documented that failure to attend electronically.

- Which meeting?
- When, where?
- Which telecoms were involved?
- Which Eisenberg Calendar shows this meeting?
- Where is Eisenberg's December calendar?

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Judiciary Committee staff note Leahy-Mukasey discussion. Several discussion/Q&A topics including torture, CIA tapes.

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Meeting With Representative Holt

49 of 50

From/To: Redacted.

Other names listed under CC:

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56 of 101: File codes


IMS/IRRG/PIPD/curey/.../6 september 2007

FOIA\RFC 00080 DNI Hofmann ACC.doc

These types of file codes can be cross checked with JCON data to determine access times, updates, and outside contractor reviews.

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58 of 101


Elizabeth J. Shapiro DC Bar 418925

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Corrected Link

58 of 101

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81 of 101 Mueller's Statement to House Intelligence, Sept 6, 2007

82 of 101 has S/NF, but no redactions to text. Is there still classified information within the para?

NSA and FBI coordinate. NSA provides information to FBI, which does follow-up. NSA informations complements information FBI already has. Jan 10, 2007 FISA Court order did not change FBI-NSA relationship.

President "Expanded grant of authority": it was an illegal grant of authority.

- How does an illegal grant of authority fit in with "FBI protocols"?

"AG directed FBI to cooperate with NSA"

- Why was "only" the US Attorney, not the AG, involved with FBI interviews of Wecht Jurors using classfied Judicial information?

The AG has no power to "approve" FBI access to, use of, and coordination with US Attorney on classified Judicial Branch information. The President must have been involved.


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82 of 102

- Was the original classification for that para in error?

- Why is the para Unclassified, but the para markings (S/NF) are crossed out, without any redactions?

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10 of 60 AG coordination on Mueller comments.

Redacted portions of Mueller's statement suggest inter alia

A. AG and Mueller well discussed with Congressman Peterson the telecom involvement with the alleged FIA violation;

B. OLA well knows about the telecom involvement with the alleged FISA violations; and coordination between DOJ and telecoms on requests for immunity; and

C. There is a JCON-archived DOJ workflow documenting these conversations between contractors, the Congress, Mueller, and the AG on alleged involvement of telecoms with FISA violations; and the telecom discussions with DOJ, FBI, and Members of Congress.

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82 of 101

- Why is the secret-designation lined out, but the NoForn restriction is still visible?

- Why does the released para have an unclassified designation, but the original designation includes a secret/noforn; yet there are no changes/redactions on the content?

- Which content in teh paragraph has been disclosed and should not have been to foreign nationals?

- What was the basis for the original classification if the released version has no redactions to the content in this paragraph?

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Two Different Statements, Both Redacted

There are two briefings: one before, and one after 89 of 101.

The terminology of one discloses content and subject matter of the redacted version in the second, and vice versa.

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Contractors Mentioned

84 of 101 The classified version contains references to the President compelling the contractors to cooperate.

Why didn't Qwest get punished?

15 letters, redacted words most likely: Telecoms, intermediaries, or contractors.

86 of 101: "Largest" most likely refers to telecommunications firms.

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1-6 of 13

Codes not consistently used, some are blank.

JEN07G43
JEN07G44
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Injunction granted.

- Hardship
- Chance of prevailing

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Compare government's responses with the data provided.

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Impermissible Legislative Meddling

Congress has no Article I power to mediate contract disputes between civilians on private contracts, nor to act as an advocate for one class of citizens allegedly violating private contract terms.

This is a private dispute between parties and does not include the Congress.

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Per our conversation.
Mary Hobbs
Bessie L. Meadows

Friday, February 29, 2008 11:21

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DOJ OLC and the DOJ Staff who process the FOIA response, must have reviewed the "per our conversation"-comment.

- When did DOJ OLC review this comment?

- What does the JCON database show for DOJ OLC and DOJ Staff counsel reviews of the original emails mentioned "per our conversation": Time, date stamp of access?

- How was the DOJ OLC staff accessing the JCON data related to these emails?

- What was the process used, step by step, to review emails, determine that another email was not released under this FOIA: Which specific computers did DOJ OLC use, what records does the JCON have of these DOJ OLC access times?

- What are the subsequent DOJ OLC reviews, comments, and conversations in response to the FOIA?

- Why are these DOJ OLC communications -- related to the non-inclusion of this other email related to "per our conversation" -- not being disclosed?

- Where are these DOJ OLC comments archived, stored, retained, or documented electronically, by written note, or in a non-DOJ-connected computer or electronic storage system?

- Which personal computers, or non-official databases are DOJ OLC using to archive this information related to subsequent conversations?

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There is a reasonable basis to ask for the detailed file information attached to the JCON.

107 of 160: Email

AG Staff coordination on DoJ, AG calls with Congress.

Members of Congress

Sen Nelson
Sen Pryor
Cong Scott
Sen Salazar
Sen Carper

DOJ Staff

Bessie L. Measdows
Brian A Benchkowski
John Eisenberg
John Demers
Brett Gerry

Need second-by-send files/records showing exactly what they were doing. Not interested in the content, just want to see all the steps they were taking related to these now-disclosed conversations. Need enough data to replicate all their electronic steps:

- Which files did they access on the now-disclosed JCON database when coordinating this meeting?

- Which JCON files were they accessing, by time.

- Where are the JCON records of their contacts?

- What are the IP numbers for these accesses to the JCON database?

- What communication, computer, or electronic devices were they using to make records on JCON; why do these devices not match, one-for-one the disclosed devices on the FOIA?

- Why is there no one-for-one consistency between the JCON data showing their computer connected; and the data on their computer showing the JCON access?

- How do they explain how they have they accessed the JCON data, but the JCON data does not show any connection from their DOJ Computer?

- Why is there a discrepancy between the JCON data linked with their DOJ computer, and the access of the JCON data related to the communication-coordination-steps?

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31 of 50: Email

Staff email disclosing conversation between AG and Member of Congress. Topics included:

- CIA tape destruction
- FISA immunity
- OLC opinions

Where did the DOJ AG document his comments in JCON-connected data?

- Which file numbers?

- When did he access the JCON-connected software?

- Which DOJ workflows did the DOJ AG update, visit, coordinate, or modify?

- Which direction did DOJ AG given to anyone else to update, modify, or change any DOJ workflows on JCON?

- How long has the White House counsel's office had access to JCON?

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49 of 50

Holt Meeting email

House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI)

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Notice the formality of the greeting, "Good Morning"

To/From redacted:

(b)(2) related solely to the internal personnel rules and practices of an agency;

- Where are the DOJ workflows for this meeting?

- How was this workflow updated in response to this email?

- Where are the JCON records related to this workflow update and email?

- What were the open/read times for each of the CC: recipients?

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The email was sent October 30, 2007 8:04 AM, about two weeks after:

Redacted questions: 14 of 128, October 16, 2007, House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

The day before Wainstein's comments:

154-160: Oral Statement, Senate Judiciary, Oct 31, 2007

[Quoted text are from other comments above]

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testing ,
sure hope to heck you get to bill somebody for all of this work - and if you are now being paid for this -if its a non profit please can we send them some money to keep you rolling on this good work ?

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Here are the citations in re White House email retention project.

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Here is an illustrative timeline, to compare with Kathryn L. Wheelbarger private email sent in re OVP/telecom.

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This email was sent in 2004.

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Look at this JCON like feature in White House.

Here

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