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CNN - Bill Clinton says wife is victim of a ‘cover up’

Just wanted to see what you all thought of this little gem [politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com]:

Former President Bill Clinton said that Democrats were more likely to lose in November if his wife Hillary Clinton is not the party’s presidential nominee, and suggested some people were trying to “cover this up” and “push and pressure and bully” superdelegates to make up their minds prematurely.

"I can’t believe it. It is just frantic the way they are trying to push and pressure and bully all these superdelegates to come out,” he said at a South Dakota campaign stop Sunday, in remarks first reported by ABC News. “'Oh, this is so terrible: The people they want her. Oh, this is so terrible: She is winning the general election, and he is not. Oh my goodness, we have to cover this up.'"


My favorite word was the use of "prematurely", after 5-6 months of headlong campaigning, and 12-18 months of the extended campaign.

Anyway, there's no way to "cover up" this fact:

OBAMA = Solvent with 34+ Million Cash on hand...

HILLARY = Bankrupt.  In debt.  Still paying off the criedt cards that bought the good people of Iowa shovels.


Comments (15)

Prematurely like how? Didn't Hillary have over 100 Super Delegates basically the day she announced her campaign?

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'"push and pressure and bully" superdelegates to make up their minds prematurely."
It wasn't so long ago the SF Chronicle reported on a red-faced Bill Clinton doing something similar. Pots and kettles, I suppose.

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On that pressuring the super dels thing? A couple of months ago Ed Schultz read on MSNBC a list of threats and intimidations that the Clinton campaign was using against super dels. They told Ed and gave him permission to share as long as they remained anonymous. Patrick Murphy from PA for instance stood up as an Obama supporter early on and now finds that he's being frozen out on dem money for re-election. Another threat was that "Your name will be removed from the president's list." Apparently that was a big threat during the Clinton administration and many found that they couldn't get re-elected and that they couldn't get anything done. The Clinton's invented threats and intimidations. An old political trick to accuse the other guy of the junk you've been up to yourself.

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The Clinton campaign and their MSM insiders will be at full tilt this week. It's a calculated scare campaign. A non-existent coverup, a conspiracy, a historical reference to RFK, how unfair and un-democratic this whole process has been to Hillary, her so-called popular vote lead, articles about Obama's "white" problem (they're pushing this harder than ever now), Axelrod's lobbyist problem, only Hillary can win the GE, and who knows what else Republicans and Wolfson will come up with.

It's four days before the FL and MI meeting and even if all delegates are seated and the entire pop.vote is handed to Hillary, they'll continue.

I've seen no evidence that the Clintons will concede in eight days.

I can't even imagine how they can move 180 degrees from what they're saying now to acknowledging Obama has won the nomination fair and square--and then campaign their hearts out for him.

tpmgary: I agree. It's going to be a $hitshow. Gore may have to wield the final dagger, and after a few days of trashing him and telling secrets about him, she may just concede.

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First it was the "vast right wing conspiracy" then after Senator Clinton made nice with Richard Mellon Scaife and he endorsed her, she embraced this financier and purveyor of this vast conspiracy against her. Bill Clinton condemned FOX News for spreading lies and doing the bidding of the Republicans but once they went after Obama, FOX News became the Clinton campaign's favorite "fair and balanced" news outlet. Both Clintons attacked Karl Rove as a lying SOB, but then, there's Hillary Clinton quoting as a credible opinion, the same Karl Rove as a reason she should stay in the race.

The Clintons will say anything and do anything to win. They will embrace the worst, most insidious, most anti-Democratic entity, as long as it suits their short-term ambitions.

And to think I voted for Bill Clinton twice, and campaigned for him, and donated to his election campaigns and to his charity. Never again.

No problem, he likely won't ever run again.

He really does just lie far too easily. She's winning the general election, and he's not? On what freakin' planet?

They cannot stand the notion that this upstart denied her the coronation.

Remember when Hillary/Edwards whispered/conspired to get Kuciniched "pushed out" of the debates? Here's a great video reliving this "cover up." They ever shake hands right after the duplicity...:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLT4wa0qmzM

"Hillary and Edwards Conspire to Edge Out Dem Candidates"

For the record, in honor of workerbee, I'm going to try to say less about Hillary. The post above about Kucinich is on point though, and should be a fair comment.

But that's it for nastiness out of me if I can help it. Jeez it's hard. I know I've said some lousy things, but will now try to hold off until at least June 3rd or June 4th.

In Bill's defense, it's reasonable to think that Hillary could do better in November than Obama would, and there's certainly facts her supporters can point to that suggest this is true.

It's also reasonable to believe that Obama would do better instead. How you feel about their relative chances may affect which candidate you prefer. Or, more likely, your candidate preference affects how you feel about their relative chances to win.

We tend to believe our own perspective is commonly shared, and if we think candidate X is better, then we'll tend to assume most other people do, too. Or at least most people who've taken the same time and care to study that we have would.

So Bill Clinton's comments are hardly surprising, nor are they particularly divisive. If he didn't believe Hillary would be a stronger candidate, he'd be encouraging her to end her campaign.

I happen to believe that Hillary's sex would be just as big a handicap in the general election as Obama's race, if not bigger, and while I can cite some polling to back that up, no doubt people looking to draw the opposite conclusion can find data to support their opinion as well. The bottom line is that we simply don't know who would be the stronger candidate in November, and odds are we'll reflexively think our preferred candidate would be stronger.

In a year where the political environment strongly favors Democrats, either candidate is quite likely to win in November if they run a good race. So I'd say electability should take a backseat to which one we believe would make a better president. Again, reasonable people will disagree over that as well.

If you are firmly convinced that Obama simply cannot win in November, an opinion the Clintons likely hold, not only because of his race, but also because they see Obama as being viewed as too "liberal" for the general election, their continued fighting makes sense, and not simply as something driven by their own personal ambition. As significant forces behind the DLC, it's not surprising that they might understandably worry that the country is too conservative to elect Obama.

That doesn't mean that their opinion is correct now, however, nor does the party as a whole have to agree with them. Bill Clinton overestimates the extent to which the public as a whole wants Hillary to be president. The Democratic electorate is pretty much split down the middle on that question. People on both sides have valid reasons to support their opinions. But once the contest is over, we should all come together to support the nominee, whoever she, or he, may be.

Bill - before you start throwing around accusations and shedding tears like this, someone ought to sit you down and remind you of how much damage you did to the Democrats.

You should be grateful that people still think well of you at all - you almost lost us everything and it is your fault that we ended up here.

Yes it is - you started this playing with words - "depends on what the meaning of "is" is." Ok. You played with the rules and the Rule of Law and skated along a very fine line, you and Hillary both.

We don't owe you shit - you owe us.

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Let us have NO DOUBTS about this. He means that anytime short of the CONVENTION is premature.

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Hillary Clinton has never been close to gaining the presidency even if she has long been the leader for gaining The Democratic Party presidential nomination. This was better appreciated eight years ago and has not changed, but disciplined silence over Clinton baggage has painted an illusion for The Clintons and their most ardent supporters: "What baggage? No one is poking around, and the press isn't even mildly interested. Hey, even Republicans are on board supporting Hillary Clinton for president!"

Fantasy. To state the obvious, Hillary Clinton as The Democratic Party presidential candidate delivers the presidency to any Republican candidate. The Republican-leaning Rush Limbaugh knows that the easiest way to retain The White House for Republicans is to sing praise for The Clintons and champion their every cause, and The Clintons will play along.

Heck, Clinton supporters might really believe that no one would ever think to remind voters about scandals and little things like an impeachment trial--if they can remember themselves. I've recently heard some Clinton supporters suggest that Al Gore would have won the 2000 presidential election had he used the Clintons more during his campaign. Back in year 2000, however, the opposite was clearer. Al Gore couldn't distance himself far enough away from The Clintons. It wouldn't take much to put those humiliating, nation-paralyzing stories back in the supermarket tabloid rack for voters to ponder in the checkout line. This isn't about employing falsehood to manufacture smears from nothing. This is about well-documented historical fact which includes falsehood: not quite enough to remove a president but way more than enough to ensure a Republican victory.

According to Sigmund Freud, projection is a psychological defense mechanism whereby one "projects" one's own undesirable thoughts, motivations, desires, and feelings onto someone else. It is a common process that every person uses to some degree.

Psychological projection

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