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Clinton's Real Electability Powerpoint
This is rather alarming. Apparently, the "electability" powerpoint that Clinton sent out to House Dems was a decoy. Select uncommitted superdelegates obtained a very different pointpoint. I've managed to obtain a leaked copy and posted it here. Please check it out, and forward it to your friends
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Comments (177)
I can't get your link to work. Real or joke?
May 9, 2008 3:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
You have to have powerpoint to see it
May 9, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
No you don't. It opens just fine with OO.o.
May 9, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
OO.o is awesome.
However, YOUR powerpoint is NOT. It's not a joke. It's racist and disgusting.
People could make a similar satire of some of Obama's greatest hits, except about black not white. But if that happened, you and the other trolls here on TPM would all be (correctly) crying "racist." And don't ask for an example of what it would say--you know darn well that a mind bent against a candidate can cook up all kinds of "clever" hate like you just did.
Stop playing the fucking race card... It is EXHAUSTING. You, and a little army of jerks like you (including a dozen or two on this site), are eventually going to piss off so many people that Obama can't win and we get stuck with John McCain in the White House 8 months from now.
And by people, I don't just mean "white people", if you are thinking of responding with more of your hateful injective. My asian partner just looked over my shoulder and said "What an asshole."
May 9, 2008 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was directed at the original poster, not Ben.
May 9, 2008 5:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
So are you saying that you and your Asian partner didn't like the ppt?
May 9, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
My black self looked over my own shoulder and said "That's funny as hell!"
Nice powerpoint Genghis. Much better than the leaked fake one.
May 9, 2008 8:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I looked over my 50% black shoulder and laughed my mixed-race ass off. Bitterly.
May 10, 2008 2:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ready to laugh my black ass off on day one!
May 10, 2008 11:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
It would seem that this powerpoint has won the black and mixed-race vote, lost the asian vote, and split the white vote. left, are you elite or blue collar?
May 10, 2008 12:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Genghis is blue collar!
Wait he changed....oh, hang on...now he's blue again!
Doh...not anymore.
May 10, 2008 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
My black self thought it was hilarious.
My half Romanian-half Hungarian husband thought it was funny.
I also have 5 Filipinos, 4 Mexicans, 1 Peruvian, 1 Columbian, 3 Japanese-Americans, 3 half black-half white people, and 13 white people who all thought it was hilarious.
As I typed this a Clinton supporting Brazilian emailed to said is funny stuff.
I'm still waiting for responses from the Chinese-American, and 3 half white-half-Latino and 2 El Salvadorans.
May 10, 2008 2:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
evidently most humans agree -- your ppt is indeed uproariously hilarious!! and many share the urge to share the wealth by spreading it around for all to enjoy ...
May 10, 2008 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me likes!
May 9, 2008 8:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
but most people never expect to see asses over the shoulders! I don't believe being Asian is even related to such exclamations ...
does your health care cover the costs of the special facilities you must have to use?
May 9, 2008 11:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
ha!!!!
May 10, 2008 3:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
"People could make a similar satire of some of Obama's greatest hits, except about black not white."
No, they couldnt. The problem isnt that Hillary wins white votes, its that she constantly brings up how she can win white votes over Obama and that makes her more electable. I cant think of any time where I've heard Obama talk about his black support.
May 10, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ben you are a racist bastard for coming up with that powerpoint! ..... What's that you say? You didn't make it? Oh sorry, ;)
May 9, 2008 10:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the google apps version for anyone who doesn't have ppt and doesn't want to download openoffice. Not quite as pretty though
http://docs.google.com/Present?docid=dg4rf569_16f3cpppdq&skipauth=true
And if you have a Mac with ppt, you may want to try this link:
http://free-associate.com/HRC_Wins_in_White_Districts.ppt
May 9, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
And now ack has graciously done a youtube version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDRsm3wAMns
May 9, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I made a better youtube version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZYbhAKVThM
May 10, 2008 4:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's a better youtube (with music):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAq6_Rmb9lM
May 12, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
If anyone is still reading this thread, I put up a nice web version at:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/05/clintons-real-electability-pow.php
Give it a digg!
May 11, 2008 2:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Crap. Wrong link. Here it is:
http://free-associate.com/HRC_wins_in_white_districts/
May 11, 2008 2:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
AND AN IQ OF 8 TO BELIEVE IT
But hey, with a shirt like that you should be a hit at the Denver White Guilt Rally '08
Obama/Obama '08
May 10, 2008 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
11 actually, but thanks for trolling
May 11, 2008 2:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish I could do an HTML version. My Powerpoint 2003 generates horrible HTML--it's all screwed up. If someone can generate better HTML, perhaps with a newer version of pp, please post a link.
May 9, 2008 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Embrace Socialism. Embrace OpenOffice.org. Walk towards the light…
May 9, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I carry with me, at all times, a holy icon of Richard Stallman.
May 10, 2008 3:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Coincidentally, so does Richard Stallman
May 10, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
How about Google apps? I'll post it shortly.
May 9, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
thanks, Genghis. the google apps version worked fine for me with no hassle here on my Mac w/o ppt ... good one!
May 9, 2008 10:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have power point. Whether it was a computer problem or just a joke, thanks for wasting my time.
May 9, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's funny, because it actually worked fine under OpenOffice's Impress!
May 9, 2008 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you have a mac? try messing with the suffix.
May 9, 2008 5:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Avoiding the work I should be doing, I played around a bit further with this using powerpoint. Normally I do my very best to avoid using microsoft products (or writing files in their formats), because while at first glance their software seems to offer great promise, it never lives up to it, and I only end up cursing their lazy programmers and their monopolistic, however philanthropic, boss; thus I have extremely limited experience with powerpoint (other than seeing colleagues nearly break down in tears at conferences when all their Greek symbols show up in Cyrillic font, or their animations won't play).
After spending too much time with your ppt file today, I can see the brilliance of your composition, which is all but lost on the quicktime animation I made from the google doc version. All attempts at getting powerpoint itself to make a movie (I have a few versions available on mac and windoze platforms, including a 2008 mac version) fail in the same way, namely overlapping your excellent graphs with the tables. The same failures appear in my attempts at exporting your ppt file as html. Damn Bill Gates and his crappy software! In an optimistic moment I even bought a copy of Sweet Home Alabama from amazon, but I was apparently unable to outfox its copy protection, which I assume is what was causing the shareware (GraphicConverter, which usually rocks) I used to convert your google-doc version to quicktime to crash when I tried to add a soundtrack. So much for the pleasure of avoiding work! Harumph.
May 9, 2008 10:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wicked snark!
May 9, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Perfect -- except you got the percentage of racists in PA-04 wrong. I canvassed there and it's much higher than the 17% (13%?) you gave it.
May 9, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's ready to be president white away!
May 9, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
oh, that cracked me up!
♪♪♪
May 9, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
EXCELLENT
May 10, 2008 2:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dying to read it (old computer apparently doesn't have PPT...)... Please upload to an HTML site if you can...
May 9, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or, you could download OpenOffice!
(Yes, I'm a open-source pusher.)
May 9, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good on you.
May 9, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like it, will download. Thanks Ben!!
May 9, 2008 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, yeah. The first one's always free...
May 9, 2008 7:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Free Software. "Open Source" is heretical.
May 10, 2008 4:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Since you so shamelessly plugged this, I will plug my own idea:
We need to use positive reinforcement with Hillary. Not negative.
Click - and keep it postive:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/05/please-help-hillary-stay-in-th.php
May 9, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why do you think they call it the White House?
Will Obama have to paint half of it black?
May 9, 2008 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
NO, his version is to tear up the bowling alley and put in a Bball court.
May 10, 2008 2:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Awesome. Love the slide comparing the whiteness of the candidates.
May 9, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. What I particularly like is that it's a parody of PowerPoint itself, as well.
May 9, 2008 5:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed, that was a send-up.
May 10, 2008 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have a mac, I changed the suffix to .ppt rather than .pps and it worked fine.
:)
May 9, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
All of it is funny, some of it is brilliant.
May 9, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Genghis,
Your PPT is a thing of beauty. Thank you.
May 9, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Put a self playing version of this on YouTube and help it go viral?
May 9, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
How do I make one?
May 9, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is brilliant and hilarious, especially "percent white."
I converted it to a quicktime movie, which looks much better than the version I just uploaded to youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDRsm3wAMns
I'll try mucking about a bit to see if I can make it any crisper.
May 9, 2008 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just posted a better version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZYbhAKVThM
May 10, 2008 4:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nice! Would love to see a viral vid of this go national...
May 9, 2008 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thats awesome
May 9, 2008 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
You need White Power Point to make it work.
May 9, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
My avatar has disappeared again. Does anyone know how that happens?
May 9, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
oh dear.... it's the white virus! it took your avatar!
May 9, 2008 4:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, KateO, White PPT is much more hardworking apparently....
May 9, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ganghis: A grateful nation thanks you. Oh, and that includes hardworking white folks from tough districts.
PS: Please do what you can to make this presentation viral.
May 9, 2008 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know you're wrong...That chart comparing the whiteness of Clinton to Obama was up there with karateexplosions-level snark.
May 9, 2008 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
He caught me with that one too. Hillary and McCain have crossed the whiteness threshold to be Commander in Chief.
May 9, 2008 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillarious!!
May 10, 2008 11:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Classy...make sure you pass it on to ever supporter of Senator Clinton. See they can see what kind of people support Senator Obama.
May 9, 2008 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah. People with a sense of humor.
May 9, 2008 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
And the comments are even funnier.
May 9, 2008 11:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pass this one to every Clinton supporter as well.
Jon Stewart from the Daily Show. Be sure to listen to the audience. I would like the Clinton supporters to really hear them.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=168061&title=riggle-hillarys-americans
May 10, 2008 2:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wasn't sure Clinton still has any sentient supporters who might discern such subtlety as the audible moaning and groaning elicited from the Stewart audience on hearing her pronounce those notorious USA Today comments ...
May 10, 2008 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
You, Sir, are brilliant.
May 9, 2008 4:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
120 points in Texas...bah! Funniest line ever.
May 9, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillaryous!
May 9, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Genghis for president? Excuse me, brother, but I already took a number and am patiently waiting my turn. You cannot just sashay up here and leap into the front of the line. DeLassus for President 2016 will not be trifled with like that.
May 9, 2008 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Besides, isn't "president" a step down for you? After you have been "khan," it is surely a bit of a let down to find that you are constrained by term limits and checks and balances and the like.
May 9, 2008 5:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not a problem. I plan to pull a Putin and set up Allsburg as a puppet Khan.
May 9, 2008 5:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Genghis. Back off your presidential ambitions. It's Greg's turn. He wears the kilts around here. Also, I believe his Caucasian bona fides are conclusively established by his sporting the tartan and playing the bagpipes. You, on the other hand, wear wide collars and flashy clothes. And you look suspiciously swarthy. Unpresidential, I'd say.
Oh, wait. Greg's wife may not have crossed the whiteness threshold to become First Lady. OK kids, duke it out ...
May 10, 2008 1:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Again with the disturbing baby double entendre!
May 10, 2008 4:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
What I want to know is, who's on the ballot in DF's general election?
May 9, 2008 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Missouri Voter, don't think you can hide behind that kilt and that new name. We know you are Greg DeLassus. And we also know that you would set us down a horrible path toward mining asteroids to pay for escalating health care costs. Only through the use of nanotechnology can we achieve affordable health care. Your presidential bid is doomed. I'm working to introduce legislation through my representative that will allow ten-year-olds to be president, and if I am successful, you have no shot at the election in 2016. However, if you forsake your quixotic quest now, and admit the superiority of nanotechnology, perhaps we can discuss the possibility of a joint ticket.
May 9, 2008 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
120 points in TX and 100% white. OMG I have tears from laughing. Great one Genghis! I don't know how to make it autoplay for Youtube upload, but it is an absolute must! Any techies avail to make that possible?
May 9, 2008 4:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Something must not be right with my Powerpoint. I can't get the slide with the graph quantifying how much harder working her supporters are than Obama's to load.
May 9, 2008 5:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I too only get part of it on my Mac. I even had a powerpoint here that I didn't know about till now!
But slides came on top of slides... thus keeping the presentation more PC, from what I can tell. However if it's up on you-tube.... then maybe I can get stomach aches along with the rest of you.
Please, help us Mac folks out here, you geeks!
May 9, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
See below. Problem solved.
May 9, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is brilliant and hilarious, especially "percent white."
I converted it to a quicktime movie, which looks much better than the version I just uploaded to youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDRsm3wAMns
I'll try mucking about a bit to see if I can make it any crisper.
May 9, 2008 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why?
You do realize that you are part of the problem by promoting this crap, right? Why not INSTEAD use that time to effect valuable change instead of fanning racial flames.
May 9, 2008 5:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. If only we could stop Stephen Colbert as well. This sort of stuff has no place in the Democratic Party. I remember when we stood for serious policy initiatives -- and for people like Mondale and Dukakis. That's the spirit that got us where we are today.
May 9, 2008 5:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please. If you guys were at Stephen Colbert's level, you wouldn't be hanging out here! Try not to flatter yourselves too much.
May 9, 2008 11:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh come on.
This is so ridiculous. I think the charge that Clinton was race-baiting was silly, and this carries that point home nicely.
Genghis's brilliance lies in his ability to appeal to a lot of different mindsets. I don't think he should be dissuaded from that.
It's not like he's attacking a poster personally or anything.
May 9, 2008 5:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Next up, Billy Glad's real electability powerpoint
May 9, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are SUCH a brat.
May 9, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually "left" I think ridiculing racists (or maybe the pathetic, desperate Clinton campaign should be called racial opportunists) is just the opposite of fanning racial flames. Sheesh.
May 9, 2008 5:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Geez, lighten up. Take some parody lessons, will ya?
May 9, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh poo, Left. If Hillary insists on making the last weeks of her campaign downright farcical, at least allow Genghis to give her a hand.
And Genghis? Well done, sir. Snark of Stewartian proportions.
May 9, 2008 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tell that to Hillary!
Jon Stewart on Healing:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=168061&title=riggle-hillarys-americans
May 10, 2008 2:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Awesome! Can you add some dramatic music? Or maybe a Rod Serling voice kinda twilight zone thing?
:D My stomach hurts, it's funnier each time I see it.
May 9, 2008 5:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
bee... play around the with all the dramatic music you want here: http://www.onetruemedia.com/my_shared?z=2ad3723ab2433f99fa02b0&utm_source=otm&utm_medium=text_url
(jpg compression seems kinda sucky from powerpoint, but whatever.)
(i created a special onetruemedia account just for this purpose, so feel free to login in to it... tpmsnarkie AT yahoo DOT com, pw is "powerpoint".)
May 9, 2008 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks so much ack. I was trying to download conversion tools, but they were sucking.
May 9, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
You betcha, Genghis. Still working on a better version, and will certainly post it on this thread.
May 9, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent. Hang it upthread if you can, where I put the other links.
May 9, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was able to create a better version...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZYbhAKVThM
It's running a little fast. I wasn't able to slow it down.
May 10, 2008 4:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
And yet a better one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAq6_Rmb9lM
May 12, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
OMFG -- absolutely brilliant, Genghis! I am so proud of what a hard-working (and brutally funny) white person you are!
May 9, 2008 5:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now there's an idea, Genghis's skin color could flash along with his shirt.
Where's DF?
:D
May 9, 2008 5:28 PM |