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Clinton Touts Electoral, Popular Vote Lead In Call With Bloggers
Hillary Clinton held a conference call with bloggers today to tout her case for the nomination. She says she leads by 50,000 votes in the popular count, of course including MI and FL. She also says that she is beating Obama in the electoral math 311-217. Looks like the goal posts have been uprooted to Moscow.
Here the link to the call with audio.
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Comments (8)
And don't count any of those pesky caucus states...
May 17, 2008 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
more caucus envy...
May 17, 2008 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
What electoral map gives Hillary 311 votes now? And Obama just 217?
From the post you linked to, I found this:
Texas and Oklahoma are apparently counted in Hillary's column, and Idaho, Utah, and Alaska are allegedly already in Obama's 217 total? That makes no sense.
Votemaster Andrew Tanenbaum currently shows Hillary with 279 and Obama with 237 in a matchup with Obama. I find those numbers far more believable (especially since he explicitly makes all his data available, identifying the source and date of each poll he uses in making his map).
I would agree that current polling has Clinton doing better against McCain than Obama, but the 311-217 margin is exaggerated.
May 17, 2008 9:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the electoral numbers they are using are from the democratic primary states won. I think these numbers don't include McBush, but are head to head between the two.
May 18, 2008 12:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
"She says she leads by 50,000 votes in the popular count, of course including MI and FL. She also says that she is beating Obama in the electoral math 311-217."
What did she use, the Diebold numbers?
May 17, 2008 10:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sigh.
I've gone through so many stages this primary season--well, really disbelief to anger to disgust--but now I just think it's all really sad.
May 17, 2008 11:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
From the democratic states won in terms of popular vote, probably, not in terms of delegates won, because the former lets her count Texas. As if Hillary would win Texas in the general. And it counts New York in her column, because she won the primary, as if Obama wouldn't win New York against McCain. And so on.
In other words, it's yet another attempt to recycle the same bogus argument that hasn't fooled the superdelegates so far. She can't seriously expect that the superdelegates will suddenly start thinking, hmmm, Hillary got more votes than Obama in Texas ... so Hillary will win Texas against McCain!! Insulting the intelligence of the superdelegates doesn't seem like such a good plan, does it?
May 18, 2008 2:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Shorter Hillary: Look, we're REALLY desperate now!
May 18, 2008 5:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
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