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Clinton Fundraising numbers, something isn't right

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I am curious to find the answers to some of these very questions.  To be fair, I am sure there are some good explanations, however the Clinton campaign when releasing these numbers to the FEC must have realized that these numbers are not succinct to their claims after Pennsylvania.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/21/04953/3738/252/519453


FEC REPORTS IN: HRC 20 Mil in Debt & Caught in Lie about April 23rd. by vertexoflife
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Tue May 20, 2008 at 10:21:28 PM PDT

The FEC reports just came in, you can view them here, here and daily raising totals here.

Here is the info about HRC's two loans to herself.

Some money quotes:

  6.  Cash on Hand at BEGINNING of the Reporting Period 31711745.93

 7. Total Receipts This Period 26,911,626.98

 8. Subtotal (6 + 7) 58,623,372.91

 9. Total Disbursements This Period 28,956,919.81

  1. Cash on Hand at CLOSE of the Reporting Period 29,666,453.10

  1. Debts and Obligations Owed TO the Committee 0.00

 Itemize all on SCHEDULE C or SCHEDULE D

  1. Debts and Obligations Owed BY the Committee 19,480,893.26

 Itemize all on SCHEDULE C or SCHEDULE D

  1. Expenditures Subject To Limitation 0.00

  1. NET Contributions (Other than Loans) 193,492,741.31

  1. NET Operating Expenditures 185,147,033.59

$5 mill of receipts = loan from the candidate



Making HRC 19 million in debt, with 10 million of that her own money.

Unless the 10 Million dollar loan was not included in her debts, which then puts her at 30 million in debt.

She also said that she raised ten million on April 23, after the Pennslyvania Primaries, well, here are the totals:

April 23, 2008 1,738,154.61
April 24, 2008 2,578,730.28
April 25, 2008 787,048.99

Here is there Terry said that they would be raising ten million after PA:

Hillary On Track To Raise $10 Million Since Polls Closed Yesterday
By Greg Sargent - April 23, 2008, 1:11PM

On MSNBC just now, top Hillary adviser Terry McAuliffe claimed that by the end of today, the Hillary campaign will have raised $10 million since she was declared winner yesterday.

The number of new donors to the campaign, according to McAuliffe: Fifty thousand.

Plus, a bit down the way, third link at the top, there's something a little fishy:

April 26, 2008 314,722.71
April 27, 2008 126,573.57
April 28, 2008 203,280.36
April 29, 2008 432,857.69
April 30, 2008 9,504,619.08

They raised 9.5 million in one day? huh?

UPDATE: Rangermatt in the comments noticed that Obama has this too, but on April 1st. perhaps this is a case where a bunch of donators were lumped together in one day? is this legal? You can take a look at his donations by date here. Also in the comments jforeman notes that

A commenter on mydd (I know, I know) (0+ / 0-)

says that non-itemized donations (under $200) are often bundled and reported as a single line item on the last day of the month.

Still, that means that 84% of her small-dollar donations for the month would have had to occur on one day for the $10 million number to be plausible.

This sounds much more plausible, but is still interesting 84% of her under 200$ donations in one day?

This is also interesting. Mostof the money was raised in D.C.--   7,709,576.28  of it.

There are few questions about general vs. primary money. Here is the info about it:

NO ELECTION WAS SUPPLIED     7,466,272.73
General 2008  657,740.40
Primary 2008  12,922,677.91

I am not quite sure where this is going, but I feel like someone needs to start calling the HRC campaign on all of their little lies. (See: Florida, Michigan, 2200+ delegates needed, fund raising totals, etc.) I hope the MSM catches on to these little oddities. Why does a non-state (D.C.) have many more donations than the most populous state in the nation (Cali.)? Is most of this money from P.A.C's?



Comments (8)

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Obviously, mathmatics in general and accounting in particular are sexist.

It's been well documented that Math has a pro-Obama bias!

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CLINTON: Communication # 05.20.08 - 04...[My Dear...]

"My Dear, Dearer and...Dearest supporters,
We all know I'm losing the race,
...but that's not a big problem, is it...!?!?

We'll just change the rules
to which I agreed to before the race,
...but obviously at the time I didn't know I would be losing now,
...so how can that count...!?!?

You agree with me...right...!?!?
And...those who don't agree are just sexist pigs."

-- Hillary Rodham Clinton

PS: Please send some more money to help me pay off the loans recurred by this effort and this little bitty debt forced upon us .

>This sounds much more plausible, but is still interesting 84% of her under 200$ donations in one day?

This isn't that hard to believe. The media news cycle was all about this for 24 hours so if you are going to give her $50 that's probably the day you are going to do it. She sent out mail and the media backed up the blitz. Both before and after that 36 hours she didn't really have a good day. I also believe that any money that they could report for that day they are going to. There are lots of ways to fudge a contribution to being on a certain day to a certain extent and I'm sure they did that to a degree. All in all at best it's fishy but we are talking about the Clintons and this is why they lost. Honesty is the best policy. Fudging the line doesn't get you a lot of street cred.

Not to be a smart ass, but are you an accountant? I am, but in all honesty the depth in which you went is impressive. I could tell it did not add up from the get go, but was suprised the MSM did not look into it harder. In fairness, I am trying to be nicer for unity sake, but struggling a bit.
After tonight, Obama just got closer. The 5/31 meeting on FL and MI will be interesting, but I suspect much of the last few weeks have really been about HRC raising money before she calls it quits. The numbers look even worse for her despite winning KY large.

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Check out the LA Times
Money Shocker: Clinton's Campaign Debt Soars to $31m.

"No wonder Sen. Hillary Clinton was so late filing her required campaign financial reports Tuesday night. Her political team didn't want the shocking news in it to overshadow her lopsided thumping of Sen. Barack Obama in Kentucky.I owe how much!? Hillary Clinton's Democratic presidential campaign discloses she is now nearly $31 million in debt
Now comes the morning after, pay-up time. Clinton's campaign debt has now soared to nearly $31 million, according to numbers crunched early this morning by The Times' campaign finance guru, Dan Morain.
She added another $9.5 million in unpaid bills to venders this past month alone, pushing her total debt to venders and herself to the new astronomical figure, about a 50% debt increase in one month.
According to a campaign release put out Tuesday evening as election returns revealed her big win in Kentucky and loss in Oregon, Clinton raised "approximately $22 million" from other people in April. The release also touted that $10 million had poured in within 48 hours of another lopsided Clinton victory over Obama, that one in Pennsylvania, and said it was the second best fundraising month of her entire campaign.
But the number collected is actually closer to $21 million and the release also neglected to mention that she spent $28.9 million, nearly $8 million more than she took in. She used personal loans to make up part of the difference. She also delayed payments to consultants. Including the $9.5 million in unpaid bills from April, she owes consultants and other venders $19.5 million.
Not to mention the total $11.4 million she has loaned herself."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/clintondebt.html

Think she'd have a similar cavalier attitude to the US Treasury?

The answer: it all depends upon the definition of what is, is. Both Clintons have always lived in an alternative universe. There's no reason to expect them to change their stripes now.

Far be it from me to defend the Clintons, but the big haul in DC might have been a fundraiser.

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