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You just know Hillary and Bill will bully their way with their own agenda - It would be utterly ridiculous. All his talk about new politics would be proven to be exactly what Hillary has been claiming - Just Talk. All of Bills shady business dealings, his secretive Clinton Library Donor List would also become Obama's problem.

I'll actually think much less of him if he has her on his ticket.

She'll probably threaten an independent run or something equally as politically suicidal to the Democratic Party.

NO. No. No. A thousand times no. She has alienated his supporters and, from what I've seen right in here recently, a lot of her own. She's ticked off party leaders and right now is making a complete fool of herself. There's no place on an Obama ticket for her. She just needs to bow out, gracefully or not, as soon as possible.

But, the way discussion seems like it's going to get framed, how does he get out of it?

Hill and Bill would make a mockery of Obama's presidency. They would always be pulling attention to themselves. Obama can't have that kind of poisonous element inside the White House.

Obama should just say no to her and dare the supers to do something about it.

HRC=Ring-wing magnet. That is probably why 8 out of the 13 congressman in competitive districts (conservative) have chosen to not endorse her even though she won their district. She is toxic.

How does he get out of a HRC vp? Naming Sebelious as his running mate. She represents both the demographics of HRC, and the bipartisan spirit of his campaign.

It's really weird how this all came on at once--it started, as far as I can tell, with Harold Ford on Tuesday. But this was before we knew how close Indiana was going to be. There's suddenly this weird, coordinated effort, and like Josh, I just can't see how she would really want it. Especially since she is so convinced Obama can't win. (PSST--Because he's BLACK.)

The first thing Obama needs to do is let it be known that he has both a list of potentials, and a process in place for making the selection. On Indiana/North Carolina Primary night one pundit commented that Jim Johnson was on board with Obama to oversee the vetting. Johnson dates from the Hubert Humphrey Staff, was student body President at the U of Minnesota, and served as the vettor for Carter, and then came to the WH on Mondale's staff. Did the vetting for Mondale, did it again for Dukakis and then for both Gore and Kerry. He is very behind the scene, but does something like a 20 year audit on each prospect. He doesn't select, he just makes certain nothing untoward will show up. Anyhow, now he is working on Obama's staff, so I assume he will direct the process.

By making it clear a process is intended, Obama can save himself a world of hurt from the Davis and Ford types by making it clear he has approved a process and it is going forward, and that he is not going to make the pick based on spin or a popularity contest.

I too like Jim Webb, and hope he is on the list that Jim Johnson begins to work with -- but above all Obama needs to sketch out his vision of how he expects a VP to work with him in HIS administration. He should quite publicly have some consultations with Carter, Mondale and Gore to discuss structure of the VP's office. He can put the selection off till summer -- but he needs to make the point he has started the process.

Obama's choice of VP is his first presidential act. I feel certain he will not use that to show himself as weak.

She'd probably do to him what Johnson did to Kennedy.

Obama / Feingold with Feingold taking over in 2016, but I think we'd be better served with Feingold taking Harry Reid's spot as Senate majority leader to work with Prez Obama.

I think that many of you are allowing your hatred of Hillary to interfere with your objectivity. Yes, there are drawbacks to putting Clinton on the ticket. She has high negatives, she has a lot of baggage, her modus operandi is inconsistent with Obama's message, and she's tied to a certain limelight-loving ex-President who doesn't take direction well.

But while I don't advocate putting her on the ticket, it's important to recognize that she also has advantages. First and foremost, she is extremely popular, almost as popular as Obama himself. She has demonstrated herself to be an effective politician and fundraiser. She would expand Obama's base, particularly among women and older voters. She is an effective attack dog, an important attribute in a VP candidate. (One of the roles of a VP candidate is use their platform to go on an attack so that the pres. candidate doesn't have to get muddy.) And she has one of the best-known names in American politics.

I expect Obama to seriously consider her, and while she can't force him to put her on the ticket, I expect the depth of her support to be a serious consideration for him.

One final note, it's a bit hypocritical for people who threaten not to support Hillary were she to become the nominee to criticize her for insufficient loyalty to the party.

People, relax. RELAX!

You and I have never seen a politician so adept at piloting their campaign as BHO. He will thread the needle on this, just watch. In fact, someone, hand me the popcorn!

Bernstein's an idiot. He, Tweety, Mitchell, Russert and other MSM's scarcely disguised hatred of Clinton are the reason she's in the quandry she's in now. Virtually every article he's written or everything he's said on TV has been anti-Clinton.

For you Obamabots, do not worry. There is no way Clinton will be VP. She'll use whatever leverage she has (which isn't nearly as much as people say) to avoid being on the ticket or even being asked.

The main thing she doesn't want to do is be as damaging Obama's chances. All along she had believed that she could win, but Obama couldn't. That's the argument she's made to the super delegates and for even staying in the race.

After she concedes, she'll do everything she can to be as doing everything she can to mend fences and help Obama (everything except take a spot on the ticket). Tweety, Bernstein and others are already promulgating the idea that she wants to sabotage Obama and run in 2012.

To dispel this notion after Obama loses, she'll go on interview after interview and state unequivocally that she won't run in 2012. And she'll follow through on her promise. But, she'll start immediately planning to run against McCain's VP in 2016.

Food tasters and stay out of "Dallas."

Carl Bernstein is still trying to peddle his bomb of a Hillary Clinton memoir that's languished on book shelves unsold since last year. I hate it when CNN brings this bloated, mysoginist toad on to give his "insights" on anything.

Even though I am a charter member of the HeMan Hillary Haters Club, I can't deny that she'd bring substantial benefits to the Obama ticket even perhaps outweighing the considerable drawbacks. The question for Obama is a close one.

But for Hillary? A no brainer. The worst career move she could make - a pitcher of warm spit or a Senate power. She'd have to be stark raving mad to even consider it so she must have some other objective. But what? With yet another mashup of muddled and contradictory messages coming out of her campaign, who can tell what she's after?

I think she wants the VP position if that's the best she can do. It would be a poor balance for many of the reasons stated above. She doesn't round out Obama's skill set. He needs someone with strength when it comes to military, yet is consistently opposed to Iraq, and also with foreign policy. Economic experience would also give him a boost plus someone who has a bit of a "folksy" charm to balance out his grace that can almost seem aloof at times.

Yeah! She can teach the novice all about campaign organization and how to handle money responsibly. If the kid plays his cards right, maybe she'll introduce him to her big-money friends. Such a deal.

preemption could be accomplished by quickly advancing more viable alternatives while promoting media coverage of the same, e.g. obama-sebelius, obama-bloomberg.

Hillary as VP is not the best way to go. A better choices is Gov. Tim Kaine of VA. I think they have mutual respect for each other, plus he may be able to help deliver some new states to the Dem. column.

Clinton as VP: Fighting the President from Day One.

She knows she's got a snowball's chance in hell of being the Democratic presidential nominee. She really, really wants to be President in 2009. The only way to the Presidency, for her, is through the Vice Presidency. If some calamitous scandal or health crisis were to befall the President, she'd be right there to step in.

Obama is far too smart to fall for this. I very much doubt that anyone in the DLC/DNC leadership, except for Clinton's hard-core supporters, would pressure on Obama to put her on the ticket.

Imagine the GOP ads: the Democratic VP candidate saying that Obama hasn't passed the CiC threshold, and that of the two remaining presidential candidates, only McCain is fit to be President. The VP candidate questioning the presidential nominee's patriotism. And dodging imaginary sniper fire. I think not!

Let's not Chicken Little this idea. Much as McAuliffe might want to see it, Clinton as VP will not happen. The MSM have been swallowing McAuliffe's talking points. But the superdelegates have not.