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Bizarro Day at TPMCafe

In the interests of fostering Unity (of course), walking a mile in
another's shoes, and just amusing ourselves with more Meta, I propose that for the
next 24 hours, each of us post comments as though we supported the other democratic candidate.  Maybe for a day we can turn TPM into MyDD, or even, Hillaryis44.


Comments (99)

THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR OBAMA!!!

Ben,

I'm so glad you made it to the top of the list.

You win.

THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR MIKE GRAVEL!!!

Now that was funny! Well played.

Who's ready to lead on Day 1???
Some guy who made a speech in 2002???

Wake up people!!!!

STOP DRINKING THE KOOL-ADE!!!!

Hillary supporters will NEVER vote for Barrack Obama in Nov. Say hello to Pres McCane!!!

Who's ready to lead on Day 1??? Some guy who made a speech in 2002???
Absolutely not. Vote for someone who voted to go to war in 2002. And 2007.

Why do you people hate Florida and Michigan voters so much?

Count ALL the votes.

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Curiously enough, I have heard very very little from actual FL/MI voters. I have heard an unending din from the Clinton camp (unsurprisingly), and quite a lot from career politicians. Voters, on the other hand, have been very quiet as far as I have seen.

It is quite possible that there are droves of voters feeling left out because their vote would not count (even they knew that when they voted). However, I think it's far more likely that the Clinton campaign are riding the backs of the ordinary voter in order to attain the nomination.

I challenge any Clinton supporter here to deny that Hillary Clinton *agreed* to NOT seat FL/MI before the election. I challenge any Clinton supporter here to deny that McAuliffe himself (as mentioned in his book "What a Party!") enforced the "no-seat" rule for MI in 2004.

If you are going to argue for your cause, it helps using arguments that have logical foundations. "Because I want it" does not cut the mustard.

Yes, yes!! Let their votes count, so we can convince the Superdelegates to overturn the rest of the votes!! Geez, you Obamanoodle punks just don't get it!

Count only Michigan and Florida!!!!

DO NOT COUNT ANY OF THE SPINELESS STATES THAT FOLLOWED THE MEANIE RULES OF THE EVIL DNC!!!!

BUSH IS GOD!!!

Count only Michigan and Florida!!!!

DO NOT COUNT ANY OF THE SPINELESS STATES THAT FOLLOWED THE MEANIE RULES OF THE EVIL DNC!!!!

BUSH IS GOD!!!

Exactly right! Who cares if Obama was not on the ballot in MI. It is perfectly fair. Those people who went to the polling booth should be counted! Of course we can't give the uncomitted votes to Obama because we are not sure who they were really voting for. Gravel could have gotten those votes for all we know. So obviously we cannot give the uncommitted votes to Obama. BUT THE VOTERS WHO CHOSE HILLARY SHOULD HAVE THEIR VOTES COUNTED! I mean we wouldn't want to piss those voters off who actually went to the polls right? We need them for the general election.

I'm afraid I'm ill equiped to understand the Clintonista mind set. I'm surrounded by Obama supporters.

My only exposure to HRC supporters is my 7 year old daughter (who wants to see a woman president) and my 68 year old mother (who won't vote for a black man). I can somewhat relate to my daughter's view, since I too would love to see a woman president (just not this woman) and end the lock the white male has had on this job for 232 years.

I have (thus far) refused to break my daughters heart and tell her that HRC has a snow balls chance in hell of becoming president, but I know she'll find out soon enough.

So now you have stooped to writing off the opinions of your own mother and daughter?? Shameful.

Still, I think it gives you enough to go on for Bizarro Day. Feel free to use racist arguments--they do on HillaryIs44.

All right, I'll give it a try...

BE AFRAID!!! BE VERY AFRAID!!!

HE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE US!!!

HE HAS A MUSLIM SOUNDING NAME!!!

How's that? Too subtle?

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Now be a good Clintonista and get your daughter to sell her bike and give the proceeds to Hillary.

My black boyfriend's white son sold his video games so that he could raise money for Hillary's campaign.

Can I get an Amen?

LisB - you came dangerously close to asphyxiating me with laughter with that one. If I do die from one of your comments, I think it's only right that you give up golf ... at least until the election. Think of my poor mother.

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Amen, Sistah Lis! Lemme try:

Hillary has won the big states, the important states, and the swing states. She has the coalition to win in November. Hard-working Americans support her because she is tested, vetted, and ready on Day One. She has a lifetime of experience and has passed the Commander-in-Chief test, whereas her opponent has simply made a speech in 2002. She has solutions to solve the problems that America faces, and not just rhetoric. Let's let all 50 states vote and, in the end, their decision will be unanimous. Hillary IS 44!

OK, now, excuse me while I go delouse....
(That was a joke.)

HE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE US!!!

He looks like me! So ...

BE AFRAID!!! BE VERY AFRAID!!!

we all love hillary, she was 44 in 1992. it is always 1992 at my favorite site hillaryis44forever.com

Xena was a fabulous warrior princess!

Enough with the sexism in the fictional warrior community!

Hillary08!

That Obama guy voted "present." That's no fair!

My wife is the most qualified person to be President, since I can't be President anymore, at least not in name, given that friggin' constitutional amendment.

Hillary for President!

And after that, Chelsea! She should be 35 by 2017, and maybe Jeb Bush can take a turn in there too.

It takes a series of Clintons to clean up after a series of Bushes!

HILLARY MUST BEE PRESSIDENT!!!!

CLINTONES ALWAYS GO AFTAR BUSH!!!!!

Hillary is better than Bush, I've said it a million times.

And she'd be better than John McCain.

To that limited extent, even I, Fauxbama, endorse her.

Go Hillary!

You can't call yourself a feminist and not vote for Hillary. She's a champion of women's and children's rights (except in Iraq and maybe Iran. oops, snark slip) You can't even call yourself a woman and not vote for Hillary. So anyone who votes for Obama is a closet man.
Besides, it's her turn. See that line over there. Obama jumped the 2008 instead of standing patiently in line for 2012, or maybe it's 2016. That's where his turn is chalked in.

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Ha! Julimac, that's teh awesome. Best snark I've read all day.

Kucinich is a strong and forceful leader.
I think he'd have no problem carrying Texas in the fall.

Couldn't quite bring yourself to do it, I see.

For me, of course Clinton would be the best choice. How can we have a nominee that hasn't won the important swing states like California and New York. If this had been the Republican primary, she'd have won already. What's the problem with Democrats?

Though I supported the other candidates to various degrees and pretty much consider Obama and Hillar equals, Kucinich was the one who caused me pause because I couldn't see him winning in November.

Hillary doesn't suck too much! Sometimes she tells the truth! Even when she's pandering, she means well! Her racist comments were actually far nicer than the things she wanted to say!

Hillary '08!

Alright, then, that was funny.

She's a woman. I'm a woman.

Hillary supports blue collar workers and would never do anything to harm them!

Hey little twirp (and I mean that lovingly, here's a virtual pinch on your cute l'il cheeks) - I can't walk a mile in your shoes or I'd have blisters and bunions out the watusee, though Blue Man doesn't have any legs (or arms?) so I guess he can kind of skateboard on top. Anyway, do you get tired of the term "Baby Boomers" since it really has more to do with old people than babies? Anyway, I hope you come around to being an oBoomer - all your classmates in daycare have. Speaking of which, I'm curious, with all the child care proposals I've seen over the last 10 years, you should have more care than a Lamborghini Contache, but it still looks like you've got some dirt encrusted around your neck - what gives? Personally I'd ask for a rebate from the Clinton clan - obviously their idea of welfare reform was referring to personal welfare, though if you'd been born black you could look forward to free housing in one of their new penal housing units. Somehow ain't fair, is it? Look on the bright side - if Obama gets in we'll get to end No Child Left Behind and if Hillary gets in you'll get to learn Farsi. Win-win all the way around.

That's the Unity I'm talking about!

des

I'm really good in the snow. Push me up the hill and let me free.
If I can keep head looking at the sky ...i'm good.

i wanted to try skateboarding but the kids wanted to use me as the skate board.


and by the way, (BTW in crap-speak) those us without any kind of appendages thought it was really uncool for Eddie Murphy to make fun of us in that Trading Places movie.

I can only imagine how you feel about that Diane Fosse or whatever her name was. She did however seem to have had sex with a gorilla, so......there's some good history there

A simian classic, though the hairless bit kinda grosses me out. I also like "Gorilla My Dreams" if you're in a more fun mood.

ROOOOONNNNN PAAAAAUUUUULLLLL!!!!!!

Oh speaking of Ron Paul supporters!!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8uFauzE_cqw

I care who the nominee is.

(Can't muster up an exclamation point.... so sorry)

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Check out Kos today. He has a picture of Hillary eating the heads of children with cleft pallets! Why do you think her husband has spent the last few years trying to improve living conditions in Africa? Because it's no fun to obliterate a continent full of sick and already dying people!?!?!?

Hillary '08 She will nuke you too.

I have not see Hillary wear the same pants suit twice in the same week. Obama, on the other hand, is always wearing the same suit.

Bizarro Baby, shouldn't you be 96? Or John McCain?

In honor of bizarro day, I'm going snark-free. Just cranky, serious posts.

Written whilst wearing a cranky shirt.

As a Clinton supporter, if Obama gets the nomination, I will vote for McCain instead! Because he will do a better job with the economy, ending the war in Iraq, my civil liberties, women's rights, pro-choice issues, and everything else this life-long Dem holds dear!

Hillary 08!!!!!!! and if not, McCain 08!!!!!

This race will not be over until all the white, hard-working people of Puerto Rico have voted for Hillary.

I tried to get my photo to do a left-to-right reverse but it won't let me. Too bad--it looks very disconcerting.

Hillary is precisely the president we need to lead us back to true capitalist innovation and wealth mongering (er, management.) Her vote on the Iraq war demonstrated her sensitivity to the political moment and her willingness to tough it out on the hard road of war mongering (er, management) rather than the easy path of principled resistance. Me and missus can hardly wait to spend our $30 from the gas tax holiday and the other $800 we get from the government by driving to Branson, MO in our SUV and using books written by those damned elites to start our campfires each evening. ((((Hugs to you Hillary!)))

Are you somehow insinuating that every other day at TPM Cafe isn't bizarro?

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Yes, I am a HiLIARy supporter. With her election, I will be able to press charges under the War on Drugs to ensure she either does jail time or gets deported for her own drug use. Thus, I am looking forward to finding out her real pick for VEEP is I am going to enjoy that wonderful eight-year run HE (LIEberman or Big Pharma Bayh?) gets. Wouldn't (pro Blue Collar Worker LIEberman be just great with a desk in the WH?

Whoever has the most testicles wins! Count 'em and weep!

Whoops, I mean -- Count 'em and weep, pansy-boy!

The condenced version:

Clinton: 35 years experience, ready from day one. Healthcare. Florida and Michigan!!! Big states... New York, California, states that count, blue states... states with primaries, not undemocratic caucuses... states with hard working white voters like West Virginia and Kentucky! THIS ISN'T OVER YET!!! Fortitude, endurance, fighter, champion - she will prevail!!!

Media stacked against Hillary - except Fox which has been fair and balanced.

Obama not ready; just words. Voting present!?!? Bowling, flag pin, plagiarism, Ayers, slumlord pal Rezko. Change you can Xerox - hrumph! ELITIST!!! Michelle not proud of America. Reverend Wright hates America. (But, Obama not a Muslim - as far as we know.) Obama race baiting! Kool-Aid-drinking, fairy-tale-believing, celestial-choir Obamabots!!! If Obama wins the nomination get ready for 4 years of McCain!!! I will not vote for Obama - EVER!

So there!!! (*arms crossed, pouting bottom lip sticking out*)

HILLARY CLINTON '08!!!

I think that about captures it.

(But, Obama not a Muslim - as far as we know.)

I take him at his word that he's not secretly a Muslim.

Yes, I give him the benefit of the doubt, even though his mentor, Wright, does praise Louis Farrakhan, and he did attend a madrassa as a young man in Indonesia, and he did make a pilgrimage to Pakistan as a young man, and his middle name is Hussein, and he won't put his hand on the bible. But, I have no doubt that if he were secretly a Muslim, he would tell us.

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Either this is ironic, in which case it's sad. Or, it's a honest opinion, in which case it is...well, sad too.

Lieberman for VP! Lieberman for VP!

(I couldn't decide whether to be a bizarro Clinton supporter or a bizarro McCain supporter, and I figured this covered either way.)

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You know why I can never ever vote for Obambi?! He is the most arrogant man on the planet who has has been running for office every few years since he got into politics. No office is good enough for his big ego. Now, he is arrogant enough to think his empty suit ass could be president, so he sold himself to those underground left-wing conspirators---they have just been jealously itching to take down the only powerful Democratic leaders we will ever know in our lifetimes, the Clintons.
Notice how he has cheated throughout this primary!!!!! Notice how he snuck into those red state caucuses to unfairly gather the wrong kinds of people to vote for him!!!! Notice how he has smugly and slyly played the race card against the the Clintons who are the only true blue friends the AA's have ever really had in politics!!! Notice how he always holds his head up to look down his nose at Hillary!!!! Notice how insincere he is every time he pretends to praise Hillary!!!!
I tell you, I can't stand to listen to the man and I have to leave the television or change the channels if I see his face. And those superdelegates are losers, too. They are the ones behind this coup to take down the Clintons, because they are so jealous and so elitist and so resentful of the Clintons' success story.
I will never forgive the Democratic party, and that includes the awful Howard Dean and the awful Donna B. The party has left its true roots which have always been nourished by the Clintons.

So now if Hillary doesn't get what is owed to her for all her years of sacrifice and brilliant hard work, I will become an independent and vote for Nader or cross over and vote for McCain. After all, I am past child-bearing age, so I could care less about Roe vs Wade. So when Obambi loses in November, it will be a perfect payback for what you all have done to Hillary and Bill.

That's really, really impressive DonnaG.

Nope, too much Obama POV tossed in, lacks authenticity.

But what would bizzaro Desidero say?

"OMG! That was, like, fabtastic! I wish I could put little hearts on the tops of my i's to show how much I lo-o-o-o-oved that! No green barffing for me today."

Excellent translation from the German (video circulating on YouTube recently)!

Dude, that's like, scary good.

It is brilliant, there is no question.

I'll join the chorus -- priceless.

I'm pretty sure this is completely cribbed from the "Vast Left Wing Conspiracy Handbook".

Forget the Democrats. What we need is a constitutional amendment so "Dubya" can serve a third term! That man is such a great leader; he doesn't even let countervailing evidence get in the way when he knows he's right! And have you heard him speak? So warm, so comforting, so familiar. I can't believe he'll be gone in January. Remember the Maine. Don't change horses in midstream. Tippecanoe and Tyler too.

THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!!! FOR IDIOTIC!!!

IDIOMOMENTUM[TM]!!!

Since Clinton has apparently lost the race for Presidential nominee, hey, let's put her on the Obama ticket as VP! A joint ticket would be a good idea because she has no negatives, no conflicts of interest, would not energize the Republican base, would not demoralize Obama supporters or undermine the philosophical basis of his campaign, she could bring in NY - a state that would otherwise be lost to Republicans, Bill won't be a problem, and most of all she could contribute her excellent staff and spokespersons to the campaign. And her $25M debt would not be a drain on funding the GE campaign. And her shape-changing personas are endearing and could come in handy.

And if anyone objects, they should watch their language, because Clinton folks like me might be listening and turn Republican. And I'll post a thread advocating a joint ticket every day until Obama supporters are just too numb to respond.

ARGH!

WENCH HILLARY HAS NO BOSSOM -- ONLY THE MANLY INSTRUMENTS OF DESTRUCTION!

AND EVEN THOUGH SHE BE A MAN -- MAKING PEOPLE ARGUE IS HER FUNCTION!

SHE WILL BRING BACK THE KINDER GENTLE YEARS.

MAKE NICE. PLAY TOGETHER. CAN'T WE ALL GET A BONG?

CONDENSE! CONDENSE!

ARGH!

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Clinton has all the experience! I mean, she was married to a president for eight years, which is exactly why my mom's opened a dental office using my dad's degree!

Sign me up for a root canal, I have that much confidence in her experience and readiness!

You are so wrong!!!!! Don't you know that Bill did nothing in the White House! Ask Bill. He'll tell you. He relied on Hillary for EVERYTHING. It was a co-presidency from the very beginning. Although Bill did have his own little pet projects :), Hillary did almost all of the governing. See how great the 90's were! That was all Hillary. Every bit of it. This is Hillary's chance to actually get credit for all of the governing she actually did in the 90's and did not get credit for.

How dare that upstart Obama try to steal what is rightfully hers.

I have come back through time to protect Barack Obama and to defend the Democratic Party. Don't make me run you're asses off.

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I will be voting for Hillary not because she is woman but because previously when Bill Clinton was in the budget was balanced and deficit removed..also Hillary came forth with a good healthcare program which could have been helpful to us had it passed. Most important the foreign policy was stable and oriented towards peace. Hillary has shown she works in very bipartisan manner in congress...I always base my vote on actual proof not on who is the best orator...I am happy to see so many young people engaged in political process..about time....

You're all sexists.

They are horrible woman haters.

Hey, you're kinda cute.

Mitts. Off.

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I'll vote for Obama when he DARES to wear a canary yellow pantsuit and a Tiffany scarf! With or without a flag pin!

Hillary is going to win!! Why?

Because she WANTS to!!!

Hillary/Otto/Louisville 2008!!!!!!

As elected officials, most of the superdelegates are familiar if not well acquainted with the Clintons. In contrast, few of them could have known Obama at all before he began this campaign. Hillary was the safe and easy choice. Why did only 250+ out of 850+ make it when it would have been easy to do so? It was still a safe choice after Ohio and after Pennsylvania. Why did they not make it? For anyone who thinks this race is still on, it is still a safe choice. So why do they not make it, and why have so many gone for Obama? If you believe that you can tell a lot about someone by the company they keep, and that keeps them, then those of you who support Hillary but do not know her personally ought to ask yourselves why her colleagues have not backed her. It was and still is the easy choice to make. For some reason, they just don't seem to want to do it.

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Listen, you know how great a job Bill Clinton did? He'll do it again. His wife won't get in the way. She'll stand by her man, and so will I.

See, it's better than the two for the price of one think he said all those years back. It's four terms as constitutional as two!

(Stupid big city pundits think women are voting for Clinton because they're feminists. No way. I shave my legs, and I love my husband, and that's why I'm voting for Mrs. William Jefferson Clinton in Kentucky next week.)

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Hillary is NOT a Muslim!!!!! As far as I know!!!!!

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In recognition of Barack Obama's strong second place showing (by counting MI and FL, not counting caucus states or Illinois) I think Hillary should do the magnanimous thing and make Barack Obama assistant deputy undersecretary of the Department of Agriculture. Then he'll have the necessary experience to make a run in 2016.

My epiphany came after Iowa when I began to realize: "yes we can." Here was a man who embodied change. Change I could believe in. Enough of the old divisions. Not red state blue state, but United States of America.

I had some respect for Hillary and Bill Clinton long ago. I was even inclined to forgive Bill his vile and offensive racist rant about Obama's "fairy tale" candidacy. But I realized after South Carolina when Bill said Obama was a good candidate with a good organization like Jesse Jackson that we were dealing with die hard white supremacists. From there, it was all downhill. How could the Clintons send out Ferraro to the Torrance Daily Bee to road test their white separatist message? And what about Reverend Wright? The Clinton campaign sent those tapes to ABC. Mark Penn - need I say more? What about Cuomo's "shuck and jive" comments? Was that an accident? Of course not. Every move these Clintons make is carefully calculated. Nothing is left to chance. This woman will say and do anything to get elected. And by the way, it's not like she ever did anything in her life anyway! All she did was screw up healthcare and blew the election for the Democrats in 94. She's as qualified to be President as Laura Bush. And all the while paid Clinton shills like Krugman attack Obama unfairly for no reason. I heard Krugman was promised a top job in the Clinton administration - I think he'll be taking over for Bernanke at the Fed. Now I think I finally figured it out. Hillary's out to destroy the Democratic Party - but it's all part of her plan to run again in 2012 after McCain has run the country into the ground. With McCain as President, we're more likely to obliterate Iran - which is what she wants anyway, or maybe she doesn't. I don't know, like I said, she'll say anything.

So, now I'm seeing that she won West Virginia. Good. That's her base - a bunch of old, unwashed, uneducated white folks who don't matter anyway. We don't need em anyway!

And did I mention she's divisive?

That just proves it! Hillary will do much better in the GE than McCain because she can really connect with the Jerry Springer, Bill O'Reilly, Fox Noise sect. Haven't you watched? They love her over at Fox! Republicans hate McCain. She has shown, by throwing back a couple of shots that she is just a regular gal fighting for the working folk. Those voters identified with the fond recollections of white rural Americans being taught to shoot as children.
She is a waaayyy better general election candidate than McCain.
Look she even can identify with their rural accents which is sure to indicate her down to earth stances:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exsmFDYyK4U

West Virginia proves conclusively that Hillary is assured the nomination and that Obama would have lost all 50 states by bigger margins than McGovern - I know I certainly would never vote for that lying sexist pig - so now his flock of brainwashed groupies can go cry in their kool aid until they drown. No one has ever won except the Clintons and no one ever will. I would just like to be a fly on the wall and see the look on Kos's smug smarmy little mug now that he sees that Obama's finished. HA!!!! HILLARY44-4EVER!

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I'm for Obama because he can hold Pennsylvania and Michigan much easier than Clinton can. We can't lose either of these states and win the election. And Obama has such strong support among he swing group of middle and working class voters, voters we must have to win.

Also, Obama has the best chance to pick up Ohio and Florida. Clinton will lose Michigan and has no chance in Florida because she wanted to stick strictly to Dean's arcane rules and disenfranchise the millions of people who got up, put aside busy lives and voted because the republican controlled legislatures in those states set their primary dates at a time that was inconvenient for the all important, holiest of holy state of New Hampshire.

Clinton could have had a chance in these Michigan and Florida if she had not adamantly refused to countenance a revote in either state. Reminds me of when she filed lawsuit after lawsuit against anyone who dared to oppose her in the Illinois state senate primary.

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"Obama", strange name
From "Hawai'i", foreign land
Mandates SPAM for all


Big ears, too tall man
Hussein will get beat by us -
Tough girls with three balls


No flag on his heart
Wears his sacred underwear
Muslim BVDs


Count the people's vote
Ride the Clinton Freedom Bus
Victory awaits!


Obambi weeping
Loses to our Hillary
Now time for whoop ass


Clinton 08!


EMPTY SUIT. RACE BAITER.

I AM VOTING FOR MCCAIN. YOU ALL WILL ROT IN HELL.

YOU GO GAL!!!

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CNN only has Hillary winning by 41%! Hillary 67% to Oblahma 26%?!! That doesn't even add up! WTF?!! Can't these people even count? Somebody needs to get on this!!! If Obama manages to steal WV I call BS! She's only ahead by 3% in Jefferson county, is this area known for vote rigging?

GO HILLA............(thud)

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Clinton will win this thing; the tide is turning! WV proves that she has the momentum to take the nomination and beat McCain in November. As everyone knows; as goes Mountaineer country, so goes the rest of the country!
Clinton has made tough choices and shown she will stand up for what is right. On issues like flag burning and voting for the Iraq war she has proven that she can stand up to the Republicans by voting with them!


You go girl...show the Kool-aid drinking cult of Obamabots what you are made of!!!!!!

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"We need to clean up the white house, and we need a woman to do it."

(I put this in quotes because this was used as as the chant at a Clinton rally in Texas [I presume she wasn't in attendance]. Scary, huh?)

Hillary's got the balls to go all the way to June!

(sorry--that's the best I could muster)

I am scared! There are evil terrorists out there trying to kill us. Hillary gave us proof. She said that 1 day after Gordon Brown took office there was a failed bombing attempt.

“I don’t think it was by accident that Al Qaeda decided to test the new prime minister,” she said. “They watch our elections as closely as we do, maybe more closely than some of our fellows citizens do…. Let’s not forget you’re hiring a president not just to do what a candidate says during the election, you want a president to be there when the chips are down.”

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/01/clinton_heighte.html

See!!!! Hillary will have Bill with her in the White House! He will know what to do. If we elect Hillary we get a two-fer. These are scary, scary times. We can't negotiate with these creatures like that wimp Obama wants to do. We have to totally obliterate them!

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"Now I'll never live long enough to see a woman in the White House."

(Honestly, I can respect what she's doing. Kudos on the balls of fury. It's when you do the RNC's work for them that I get a little irritated.)

""You go, girl! You're a great role model for my daughters about strength and hard work. Take it all the way to Denver!"

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