So the folks at the Rules and Bylaws Committee are doing their best to be civil and promote party unity, and you put up a post expressing your hate for all Floridians.

Very pathetic.

"Of course, the Republican-crafted primary legislation passed almost unanimously in both chambers, in large part because Democrats supported one of the bill’s key provisions, which provided for a much-needed election paper trail."

oh god...poor poor florida...

now they're quoting maya angelou

and btw, this isnt about votes or having them counted. the votes were counted. this is about whether or not delegates should be seated.

isn't it nice how hillary is able to change the subject to one thats more sympathetic? lets make it about "getting votes counted" instead of getting delegates seated.

well...as the point has already been made that the election was a "certified legal election". SO it sounds like the votes WERE counted.

Shut up about votes. this isn't about votes. This is about DELEGATES!

I just hit the mute button... Mizz Arthenia is tripping my every nerve. I have finally heard a woman's voice that is more grating than Hillary's.

and I agree... Floridians -- at least as represented by these people are very whiny.

The RBC is trying, but I don't see these people helping present a reasoned case for Clinton or Florida, who knew full well what they needed to do and then chose to do something else.

Da Rules be da Rules!

Clinton has done her best to stoke the anger felt by Floridians, starting with her appearance primary night to celebrate her "victory". All her speeches about voting rights, disenfranchisement and the like have encouraged the sense that Floridians feel that they are entitled to full delegation voting rights in spite of having broken the party rules.

Clinton flip-flopped, supporting the sanctions last fall, reversing course when it turned out she needed the delegates. She is practicing shameless, divisive politics, with no concern for any ethic or goal beyond getting herself elected, which isn't going to happen. She devalues herself with such behavior, and brings out the worst in everyone - exactly what is on display at the moment in D.C.

Wexler is great!

The tone has gotten better, and it looks like Florida is all set for 1/2 of its delegation. Let's hope that they they show some class and make it unanimous.

I'm scared for the Michigan discussion. Some parts of this were infuriating so far, but this is at least discussing a primary where everyone was on the ballot. As someone who is from Michigan, and voted uncommitted, I don't know if I can handle Clinton's Michigan people arguing that it's an outrage to not count that crazy primary.

Ickes has totally sold his soul to the devil. He shamelessly advocates a point of view opposite to his own view last fall supporting sanctions on FL and MI. What do you suppose has changed? Anything beside his self interest, i.e. his paycheck and hopes for a White House job?

levin's making a strong, rational, case.

i'm surprised actually. i thought he'd go off on his soap box and talk about how evil iowa or new hampshire.

ickes getting his ass kicked today. first wexler, now levin

"you're calling for a fair reflection of a flawed primary."

this is getting ugly.

thats twice i've heard the "supreme court" analogy from a clinton hack...

Blaming whole states for this political mess isn't a good way to win.

And really, are rules and regulations so fecking important?! Especially one that's so worthless as one that dictates when people can vote?

Donna Brazile is great.

Well...Florida is not a victim. Florida democrats did not oppose the legislation to move the primary to January 29. And now they want to blame the "republican legislature"??? Please. Is that why the bill passed UNANIMOUSLY? WITH NO DEMOCRATIC OPPOSITION???

The thing about being in the minority is that it doesn't matter whether or not you support legislation that the majority is going to pass anyway. It still get passed.

Call me crazy, but I don't think the DNC should be taking its cues -- punishing voters -- from the Florida Republican party.

As a Floridian, I do not think any of the Florida delegates should be seated.

Bus loads of demonstrators were sent to protest in favor of seating the delegates; all expenses paid. Where did that money come from?

Our primary was a joke. At the time, no one even knew Barack's name. There was no campaigning allowed.

Many local Democrats (I'm a former County DEC Chair) never even voted.

I stand against any compromise for seating any Florida delegates.

This whole Rules Committee debate is a sham to placate Hillary. Again, who paid for those busses?

What truly amazes me are the State DEC members rallying the troops to seat the delegates.

Frustrated,