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Another Round for the UNITY TICKET
As people are realizing the difficulty in denying Obama the nomination, this drama continues to no possible benefit to the Party.
Now we have a new Obama beauty dressed in the youth vote and slapping Hillary around with her cuteness.
And they say Obama doesn't fight back.
Although I wouldn't have thought this possible just a few weeks ago, I am seriously entertaining the possibility of an Obama/Clinton ticket.
It is clear that between Obama and Hillary the Democrats have the vote to win in November. Despite Hillary's ability to rally the GOP against her, she has shown she has strong support in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Indiana.
If this ticket went forward, this would keep the party united and allow Obama to govern without a Clinton coalition fighting against him in the congress - a very undesirable prospect as she has proven. It would also allow Obama to tap into the popularity of Hillary’s Healthcare Plan. In turn, Hillary would be second in line to the Presidency.
Any other Pros and Cons?
The challenge would be for Hillary to repair the damage she has inflicted on Obama these past few months? Can she do it?
Yes She Can.











Comments (18)
You want to reward Hillary's atrocious behavior?
Obama would have to be suicidal to have that woman as his veep.
May 4, 2008 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Con: Hillary will try to kill Obama, I really do think she would if she was VP.
May 4, 2008 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary is exactly the "Old Washington" politician Obama is rallying against. It will never happen. I think she has a better shot at getting McCain's VP slot, and I'm being completely serious.
May 4, 2008 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's a big boy, if he wants to be President I think he can manage it himself. And what's this about a Clinton coalition fighting against him? Been reading Obama whisper campaigns?
May 4, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
To be clear, I'm all for a Unity ticket when the fight's finished, and I simply don't see Hillary taking a grudge to the Senate floor.
May 4, 2008 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama/Clinton is the most likely ticket and it has been since Super Tuesday. In reality, the two candidates have been very civil to each other and this has not been a historically nasty nor long race despite what the media tries to imply, every time they're just filling the airwaves with whatever nonsense pops into their pretty little heads.
May 4, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please don't. I'm getting nauseous!!
May 4, 2008 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
The key is for Obama to pick someone who gives all the pros you mentioned (brings in the Hillary coalition, taps into Clinton's best policies, etc.) without actually picking Hillary. The best bet is probably a strong Hillary supporter--like Gov. Strickland or Gen. Clark. Ideal, I think, would be a strong female Hillary supporter, but I'm not sure who that would be as most of the women being mentioned for the VP slot are Obama supporters. The worst idea is still Hillary herself.
May 4, 2008 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's use proper names - Obama/Clinton would be the discord ticket.
May 4, 2008 12:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Having Clinton as VP on the ticket would only cause Obama to lose votes and the voters' respect.
May 4, 2008 12:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. I know several independent/Republican voters who don't like McCain and are willing to vote for Obama this time around. Several of them would change their minds if Clinton was on the ticket. An Obama/Clinton ticket might unify the party (although I have my doubts even about that), but it would be at a cost of losing many who are considering joining the party.
May 4, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, Ben - excellent point!
May 4, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
This whole "unity ticket" thing was long ago rendered to cliche status. Why would anyone want to run with Clinton when more than half the voters consider her negatively?
As for "she has shown she has strong support in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Indiana." IT WAS A PRIMARY ELECTION, and extrapolating from a primary to a general election is a fools errand. There is no comparison, despite what the Clinton campaign folks are pushing.
Once a nominee is selected democrats will unite behind the candidate, except for a very, very few on the fringe. Democrats will do so as they, by and large, want to see Roe v Wade stand and do not want more SCOTUS justices further ratifying the march to ward fascism.
May 4, 2008 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
This whole "unity ticket" thing was long ago rendered to cliche status. Why would anyone want to run with Clinton when more than half the voters consider her negatively?
As for "she has shown she has strong support in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Indiana." IT WAS A PRIMARY ELECTION, and extrapolating from a primary to a general election is a fools errand. There is no comparison, despite what the Clinton campaign folks are pushing.
Once a nominee is selected democrats will unite behind the candidate, except for a very, very few on the fringe. Democrats will do so as they, by and large, want to see Roe v Wade stand and do not want more SCOTUS justices further ratifying the march to ward fascism.
May 4, 2008 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
God, no. That's a sure-fire recipe for disaster in the fall. There are other ways that Obama can bring the party together in the generals besides having her on the ticket. She is a lightning rod for the GOP and it will bring them out in droves to vote against her. If he selects a woman (Sebelius and Napolitano are 2 who spring to mind), it would bring in the over-50 white female demographic. Again, I don't know why everybody keeps harping on the "Hillary got a lot of support in PA, Ohio and Indiana" meme - in democratic primaries, one of the 2 democrats is going to win and one will lose. How can the fact that she won PA and Ohio be somehow generalized and a conclusion reached that Obama has no chance of carrying those states? Will all of the Democrats who voted for Hillary not vote for Obama in the fall? I absolutely refuse to believe this.
Plus, he will put a lot of western states in play that she won't. I just think the whole "well, she won the states that count" thing is a crock. Once he wins the Dem nomination his 50-state strategy, which is in full swing already, will move into action against McCain. We don't need Hillary for this; if anything, she'll be a monkeywrench in the works.
May 4, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama/Clinton unity ticket would be a classic example of "Uncle Dick's compromise".
May 4, 2008 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Senator Clinton has a lot of baggage, not least of which is Bill. Any consideration of Hillary as VP means getting Bill too. A VVP?
May 4, 2008 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
You folks trot out the same cliches so often, I'm beginning to fear you actually believe them.
May 4, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
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