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After 8 Years of Bush, Hillary Clinton's Crusade-like Mentality Is All Too Familiar
Yesterday, Ben Smith’s blog at Politico described a group of Hillary Clinton supporters who say they’ll work actively against Barack Obama if he becomes the nominee. They argue that Clinton has been the subject of “intense sexism” by party leaders and the media, and they say that the growing calls for Clinton to leave the race make women feel like “we’re being told to sit down, shut up, and get with the program.”
Of course, they don’t accuse Obama of sexism but apparently that is beside the point. I guess someone has to pay for their anger. The unfortunate reality is that both Clinton and Obama have had to deal with hateful bigotry during the campaign, and there are people who will not vote for each of them because of their gender or color.
However, I reject the premise that the calls for Hillary to leave the race are based on her gender. She is losing the race based on delegate count, and her only chance is coup by superdelegate. I especially reject the presumption of this group of Clinton supporters to speak on behalf of women about how we feel about the race. I am a woman who has been a feminist my entire adult life, and my decision to not support Clinton is based on her actions, especially her Iraq War vote and her aggressive stance toward Iran. Even so, if Clinton had shown herself to be a reflective person capable of reassessing her positions, I might have thought differently of her.
Instead, the longer the Democratic primary goes on, the more concerned I become about Hillary Clinton’s intransigence with regards to the Democratic nomination. I understand that many of her supporters admire her for her fighting spirit and her willingness to play hardball, and she certainly must be admired for her fortitude and conviction. But at some point, this “never say never” mentality is something to be questioned rather than applauded.
Haven’t we learned from our experience with George W. Bush that an absolute unwavering resolve in the face of all facts and reason may not be a good thing? Frankly, I see an alarming similarity between Hillary Clinton’s determination to “win” the Democratic nomination and George W. Bush’s determination to “win” the war in Iraq:
1. Both Clinton and Bush do not seem to be able to accept defeat because they are both convinced of their moral superiority. They even acknowledge that they are driven by a higher cause. In Clinton’s case, she KNOWS that she is the better candidate and the only one who can defeat the Republicans in the fall. As such, she must do whatever it takes to save the party from the hypnotic fog that has blinded the Democratic voters to the inexperience and emptiness of the Obama candidacy. In the case of Bush, we all know about his absolute belief in the righteousness of the Iraq War. He is the messenger of God who must continue the fight against the evil doers who hate us for our freedom. It doesn’t matter how the war is going or how many Americans or Iraqis have died, the war is necessary to save us from some vaguely-defined but ever-present danger.
2. Both Clinton and Bush have continued to change the metrics that define success as their crusades have faltered. In Clinton’s case, her campaign has presented ever changing and creative methods for determining how victory should be measured. First, it was the big states that mattered, then the blue states, then the working-class states, then the popular vote, then it was really a Republican-style winner-take-all model, then it was up to the super-delegates, and finally is appears to be an electability issue based on polls and selective demographics. In Bush’s case, the reasons to go to war were first WMDs, then Saddam Hussein and his al-Qaeda connections, then freedom for the Iraqis, then to destroy terrorism, then to make sure that American servicemen and women had not died in vain, then…well, it doesn’t matter. It will be the next president’s problem.
3. Both Clinton and Bush approach their ongoing battles with an “us vs them” mentality. Clinton defectors are portrayed by her surrogates as traitors or guilty of betrayal (i.e. Bill Richardson, NARAL). And when Clinton was pushing her proposal for a gas tax holiday, she told her fellow members of Congress that you are either “with us or against us”. Aren’t we all tired of such rhetoric after years of hearing it come from Bush and his strongmen? In order to silence dissent in the lead up to war, the American people and the rest of the world were given the ultimatum that “either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists”. Such talk has continued ever since as a way to discredit critics and to promote nationalistic “unity”.
At a time when George Bush is widely disliked and distrusted, why has Hillary Clinton been emulating his political style and demonstrating a rules-don’t-apply-to-me attitude that is suggestive of Bush’s assertion of expanded executive power? I find such similarities to be troubling and, in fact, Clinton’s behavior during the past several months has been a strong factor in my increasing support for Barack Obama. Obama was not my first or even second choice at the beginning of the primary, but his respectful, inclusive, and inspiring message in the face of Clinton’s increasingly un-democratic and hostile campaign tactics has made me feel that Obama is the right choice for the country. This is not to say that I will support Obama blindly since I don’t believe that any candidate should be trusted completely. There are too many pressures from the ever-present lobbyists and the big-money special interests. With Obama, however, there is at least the chance that he will listen to the will of the people and represent our interests. With Clinton, this doesn’t appear likely.








Comments (23)
Are these Hillary freaks going to work for McCain who calls his wife a CUNT?
May 16, 2008 9:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
You've got a point. If they work to defeat Obama, look who they'll end up with! I can't believe it has come to this...
May 16, 2008 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm new here but have been reading the posts for about a week.
Just my taste, but is this kind of remark made more for your own benefit rather than to stimulate discussion?
May 17, 2008 8:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
The specific reasons you cite for changing your support from Clinton to Obama echo, not only my own, but also those of many other feminists who wanted, so wistfully, to vote for a woman.
Never mind. This primary process has "raised our consciousness," once again. The welfare of our country -- and, by extension, the world -- is not about male versus female, or black versus white, or even Republican versus Democrat. Rather, it is about avoiding a repeat of electoral insanity, as defined by "making the same choices, exhibiting the same behavior and expecting different results."
Let's be sane and carefully select the candidate, now, who is capable of listening to a point of view other than his (or her) own. That is not McCain. That is not Clinton. It is Obama, who combines rhetoric with reason.
May 16, 2008 11:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Duh.....
May 16, 2008 11:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another great diary. You're seriously one of the top 5 bloggers here and that includes the famous people and the people who work for TPM.
May 17, 2008 1:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
fabooj,thank you so much for your kind comment! I really appreciate it, especially coming from you. I read your comments on a lot of the posts and I respect your honesty and insight.
May 17, 2008 1:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Rec'd!
May 17, 2008 1:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent and well-argued post as always.
I traveled the same path as you. As a woman I too was saddened by the transformation of Hillary when her campaign was overtaken by the much better run Obama campaign. When she began to morph into a Republican-style candidate the fact that she was a woman was no longer was enough of a value-added characteristic for me to stand behind her.
I have, in emotional moments, threatened not to vote for Hillary were she the nominee but even though in MA I could safely do so I knew in the end I would do everything to ensure a Democrat president was elected. The idea of women in their anger actually talking about actively opposing Obama is beyond comprehension and is at the core of why this country is mired in deadlocks over most issues. Republicans in congress, for example, are blocking legislation out of spite whether it is good for the country or not. They simply don't want the Democrats rack up a win, period. We have to end short-sighted self-satisfaction from continuing to trump the common good.
What if the supporters of all the other Democratic candidates took the same action because their choice had failed to win? Losing is part of our primary process. Great Democrats are defeated by other great Democrats. If you truly believe in what we are fighting for, anything you do to help the Republican candidate have a chance to win should be beyond even the widest range of your disappointment.
To those who would work against Obama I have a question: will the empty pleasure of saying "I told you so" keep you comforted through four more years of Republican rule and the decades ahead of an ultra-conservative Supreme Court?
May 17, 2008 9:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
And have we so quickly forgotten this:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=167642&title=panderers-box
"Oh my god, he's never leaving! In one way or another, he'll always be our president. Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!"
May 17, 2008 9:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
There has always been a fraction of Hillary's feminist supporters who seem to feel that any attack on her on character issues, like, say, her lying about Tuzla or her propensity to say anything or do anything Mark Penn told her she should say to pander to some microdemographic, is actually just veiled sexism from the phallocentric opressors. So now, they've decided that the thing to do is try to arrange for John McCain to pick Stephens and Ginsburg's successors (and possibly others--Scalia, for example, ain't exactly a spring chicken.)
Let's be honest. We're all Democrats and all of us know women like this. It's not that they're hard-core feminists. The feminist movement has made, and will continue to offer, an essential critique of our society. No, the problem is simply that if you're a dumbass, calling yourself a feminist doesn't make you less dumb. Dressing up childish pique, unreasoned emotionalism and outright irrationality in the language of militancy doesn't make it stop being childish pique, unreasoned emotionalism and outright irrationality. And, btw, way to live our the offensive "female logic/woman scorned" stereotype, there. I'm sure the whole movement will thank you.
May 17, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think that most HRC-bound women who say they'll vote for McCain to get even with Obama will actually either vote for Obama after all, or stay home. If the former, welcome back to the Democratic Party. If the latter, they'll get what they deserve-- the election will be decided without them, and they'll continue to stoke their resentments as mainstream politics leave them further and further behind.
It will be interesting to see if HRC's promise to (at long last) be a uniter and not a divider will produce a performance that we can watch with a straight face (I hope so) or whether it will be more of the same self-indulgent and opportunistic crap.
May 17, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you have brilliantly articulated the viewpoint of an Obama supporter who sees her own viewpoint with crystal clarity. You haven't a clue what Hillary supporters think, but it's good to know that you have given it extensive thought.
May 17, 2008 1:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
She mentioned a specific article where women were actually saying that, so I think she knows pretty damn well, as do I, because I suspect my mother will make the same claim.
May 17, 2008 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
"You haven't a clue what Hillary supporters think"
Yeah, sure. She hasn't read dairies and comments in support of Hillary where they detail their grievances. She's not paying attention to politics. She has not a clue what she's talk about.
And we're winning the war on terror!
(I'm being sarcastic, if someone didn't get it.)
May 17, 2008 4:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Time to put on the big girl panties and vote like the responsible adults we always thought we were.
May 17, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
"At a time when George Bush is widely disliked and distrusted, why has Hillary Clinton been emulating his political style and demonstrating a rules-don’t-apply-to-me attitude that is suggestive of Bush’s assertion of expanded executive power?"
Because HRC is really a Republican. She is only running as a Democrat because of the clout her husband has in the party. After all, she DID campaign for Barry Goldwater...
May 17, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, the same McCain, who will also appoint conservative judges to overturn Roe v. Wade; yep that be the same McCain, the Hillary Clinton crowd will be voting for come November.
May 17, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course, they don’t accuse Obama of sexism but apparently that is beside the point.
Not true. I saw them on the O'Reily show. It was the only time ever I have watched his show, or at least more than 60 seconds of it, an I tuned in specifically for that piece. The women did indeed say that the media and Obama campaign have been incredibly sexist. BillO pushed the woman who said it hard for specifics and she couldn't name one with regard to Obama's campaign. She just mentioned Chris Matthew's ill-advised "pimpin" remark.
May 17, 2008 7:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Additional note - I haven't heard Hillary say one thing to these people. Obama shut down the 527 that was fundraising to launch negative ads against McCain. Hillary is doing nothing and by doing so condoning a vote for McCain and the 2012 strategy. These women specifically said their intent was to derail Obama and look towards 2012 for Hillary.
If that were to happen it would reflect very poorly on Hillary and probably impact her standing in the party considerably. She has the ability to bring these people into the fold and discourage this from happening.
May 17, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Waldengirl, Iam so relieved to see someone else recognizes the parallels between HRC and GWB. They are remarkably similar and disturbingly so.
I just want to add to Hillary's supporters:
Hillary seems to believe she lost because she is a woman. Granted pundits in the media have made demeaning sexists remarks. One regarding HRC's cleavage made by both male and female pundits was discussed ad naseum. It should have never been a topic in the first place. Inappropriate remarks have been made, but punishing Obama for what the media talking-heads say is equally low.
Feminists seem to forget what feminism is about: the right to choose -- the best candidate whether male or female. If voting for a female is more important than choosing the best person to run the country it will set the women's movement backward and plays on the notion women vote on their e_motion rather than their intellect and independent thinking. If you really believed Hillary was the best candidate, it is time to accept the fact she lost fair and square.
This race was Hillary's to lose. She had every advantage: the democratic leaders, loyal supporters, name recognition, over $200 million in the bank, big donors, around 170 Super Delegates before the campaign began. Today by every mathematical metric the probability of her winning the nomination is nil at best. Plus she is $20 million dollars in debt. It is mathematically impossible to catch up even including Michigan and Florida Obama is still ahead. Hillary lost not because she is a woman, but because she ran a sloppy campaign.
Obama started with no name recognition, no advantages, no DNC leadership support, no Super Delegates and he is now ahead in every category. Even adding in Michigan and Florida he is ahead. He played by the rules.
But more importantly this race is not about Hillary nor Obama. It is about us. We are at such a critical historical pivotal point with so so much at stake in this election: our civil rights, human rights, our freedom, our Constitution... We face massive problems: economy, jobs, home foreclosures, healthcare, Iraq.
Threats to vote for McCain are purely e_motional ones. If HRC's supporters decide to put the country in the hands of McCain, because Hillary did not win, they need to realize it is selfish, immature and dangerous to women everywhere.
America will be forever changed if McCain is god forbid elected. He is not a moderate. Read about him. He will keep us in Iraq. And McCain promised, quote, "My friends there will be more wars." McCain is a proponent for corporate power, but not women's rights! He voted every single time with Bush with two exceptions. McCain is not the same man he was in 2000.
Go ahead and vote for McCain but do not complain when all is lost, but know it will be on your hands.
This is not a game.
Never before in before in history have we ever been at such a critical point. I truly fear for our country and the world.
May 17, 2008 8:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Serena, thanks for adding these important points. They're all too true.
May 17, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Try this.
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May 26, 2008 4:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
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