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Will Obama Respond/Recover to the Kitchen Sink in TIme for the Primary

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There is is a three day Gallup poll from Tuesday to Thursday showing a 7 point drop in Obama's lead over the past 4 days. I think the big effect is from the debate. From Tueday to Friday, his lead dropped from 11, 8, 7 and finally 3. You could say that between Wednesday and Thursday, he lost only one point in the lead. That was probably a flattening out of the effect of the bitter controversy. It is likely that he would regained his larger lead within days without the debate.
The polling from Thursday must have been really bad, and ABC, who has a larger audience can replay all those clips from the debate until the American public gets tired of it.

While this is may be good news for the coming general election it may be not so good for tuesday's primary. A number of news items are being vetted. It would have been better for Obama if these things came out several weeks ago. It would have given voters time for the gotcha's effects to fade. The American public got feed a gluttonous diet of bitters, can obama win, Wright, Wright/patriotism, flag pins/patriotism, Ayers, Ayers/patriotism with a side order of Chelsea Clinton cheering her mom.

Most polls are showing the race tightening in Pennsylvania. The effect on the national poll may end up running contrary to the Pennsylvanian polls if Clinton suffers a backlash from all the negative campaigning and Pennsylvanian dissatisfaction with the debate.


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Hillary is turning into a Republican cog. And yes Obama will recover. He's doing just fine.

See Obaracky - THe Movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyhIBXNfqMA

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I know he will. But will it be in time?

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One thing that came out of the ABC debate is that Hillary continued to build on her reputation as a fighter. Something that is emerging and growing is the perception of Obama as a victim. This has been greatly highlighted by his supporters' outcry over the fairness of the ABC debate in which he performed poorly. And Obama himself seems to be trying to capitalize on it in his remarks since the debate. This may arise out of African American politics which have often used the image of oppressed people victimized by injustice and ugliness to great advantage. But in presidential politics I see this as highly risky. If voters cast sympathy votes in November it would indeed be a new kind of politics.

I believe you are mistaken. Obama does not cast himself as a victim. He casts himself as a statesman of stature who must endure the trivial nastieness of Sen Clinton without giving it undeserved attention. He has dusted her off his shoulders and wiped her from his feet. He will do the same with the GOP weapons of mass distraction in the fall.

He should find a way to decry the MSM, and divisive politics, and the politics of personal destruction in a fired up and mad-as-hell-speech ASAP.

Directly link BUSH's 7 years of hellish incompetence to swiftboating and media lies, etc...

He needs to show emotion and put someone or something ON NOTICE that things are going to change - and then he can walk out of the room angry.

I think the dismissive tone he took in NC will serve him better than anger.

But dismissing a day late is like a kid with a black-eye talking in the mirror about what "he would have" said and done to the bully. He needs to put them on the defensive in defense of his voters interests, and the many problems we now face.

I think he did a fair job of brushing them off during the debate. He even calld BS when they asked Clinton about Bosnia. He is consistent in his objection to gatcha even when it is gotcha against his oponent.

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I know you in the tank for Hillary. I don't see the victim meme that your pushing. Is it even different when Hillary complains that the media is treating her unfairly? Or when she sheds tears when thing get too rough? Have you notice the wave of endorsements that Obama continues to receive or the superdelegates that he is amassing? Keep on deluding yourself.

Here are the debate questions prior to the first substantive question.
1. Process (VP running mate)
2. Bitter
3. Bitter/Process (can Obama win?)
4. Process (can Obama win?)
5. Process (can Clinton win?)
6. Wright
7. Wright
8. Wright/patriotism
9. Wright
10. Wright/patriotism
11. Bosnia/Clinton's honesty
12. Clinton’s honesty
13. Flag pin/patriotism
14. Ayers/patriotism

Notice that 9 of the first 14 questions were the petty questions to Obama, while only 2 of those 14 were directed at Hillary for an out and out lie. She responded briefly and they left it at that. No probing questions when she claimed she was tired. This was clearly a hit job. I smell a rat.

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Sorry. Comment should have ben directed to Otto F.

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Wonderful!

One man stood up and said, "We have lost a lot of jobs here in Erie, and it's quite all right with us if you tell people that we are bitter." That brought the whole crowd to their feet in applause once again, and Obama said, "That's the biggest response we've had all day!"

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