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The slow march to finality...
I came across this statement in Dylan Loewe's article at the Huffington Post - "Hillary's New Inevitability" and think it rings undeniably true, given the probably likelihood (i.e. numerical certainty) that Hillary can not make up her deficit in popular vote, delegate count etc... but still argues electability vs. McCain.
"But Clinton's electability argument has also been completely upended.
There is no argument, no matter how persuasive and cogent, that can be
made to the superdelegates about Clinton's electability that won't be
obliterated by Hillary winning the nomination unearned. If the
superdelegates give Clinton the nomination without her having won the
popular vote or pledged delegate count, without any rational connection
to the will of the people, an enormous swath of Democratic voters are
likely to stay home in November."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dylan-loewe/hillarys-new-inevitabilit_b_98145.html
Comments (7)
Do you believe that the Party will effectively unite behind either one of these candidates , because I am beginning to doubt we can pull it together to defeat McCain even though he is a totally clueless MESS of a candidate. I'm afraid the bitterness may just be too great.
April 23, 2008 7:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
If we were all voting in a GE a week from now, there'd be enough bitterness to spread around the world. But we're all in the heat of Now and no one's paying much attention to a bumbling McCain. When our sights are turned 100% his way come November and we start hearing that increasing, incessant drone of GOP talking heads, shared hatred of it all will propel us Dems forward - together.
April 23, 2008 9:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anything coming from Huffington Post is pro-Obama pro-paganda.
The conclusion you quoted is also flawed because it ignores the fact that Obama still has to earn the nomination as much as Clinton does. And however slim, as long as there is a chance for Clinton to win, she deserves the right to try. It wouldn't be a Democractic Party otherwise.
Because they both need superdelegates, they both have to make their cases to them. Whatever metrics works for the superdelegates in order for them to break this impasse will be the rationale either campaign will push.
As for the party getting united, make sure you tune in to Chris Matthews repeat tonight. He just ran two republican ads against Obama. One of them is so hard, the 3 am from Clinton looks like "Sound of the Music".
April 23, 2008 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lalo35,
If I prove you wrong will you promise to stop making false claims?
On Sen.Clintion
April 23, 2008 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
You can try, but if you think your one link is going to cut it, think about the drop in an ocean that it is.
April 23, 2008 8:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anything coming from Huffington Post is pro-Obama pro-paganda.
Using your words "anything" must included anything about Sen.Clinton, right?
By the way, there are more pro-Clinton post on the HuffingtonPost. I just gave you an example of how ridiculous your statement is using your exact words. Fact.
April 23, 2008 9:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I fully understand that many pro-Obama things are found at Huffington Post and me, as an Obama supporter, would logically post from a place that I enjoy reading. However, that aside, (and given the fact that each voter will automatically try to discredit a story disparaging their choice) - I simply don't see a situation where HRC comes out smelling pretty after being awarded the nomination from the supers (especially given that MI and FL will either not be counted or counted in such a way as to bring negligible gains).
The way I see it, (that means opinion), is that Hillary is basing her electability argument on an idea that a democratic candidate *must* win PA, OH, etc... to win. I just don't think that holds true with the new voter generation and interest you have in this race. Voter turnout for the general, while less, will still be at levels unheard of before for the dems (my guess) - that bodes well for Obama since the majority of new voters are swinging to him.
Therefore, a nomination based upon "electability" is simply no longer a legitimate argument. Again - in my on opinion (which for some strange reason doesn't sway Hillary's advisors in the least, hmmmm....)
April 23, 2008 10:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
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