And so I assume you are equally disturbed by the prospects of Bill Clinton pardoning a member of the Weathermen? If knowing one of these fellows decades ago is a relevant issue and a serious liability, then certainly pardoning one within the last decade is far more egregious. What say you, concerned citizen?

one_wilson: Here's something I posted elsewhere...

"It was the summer of 1972. I was working retail to pay for college. An FBI agent entered the store and flipped his badge at the boss. They talked in hushed tones. The FBI wanted to use a second-floor office for a stakeout. I later learned that they had a tip that Bill Ayers was going to visit a building across the street and they were trying to nab him. The stakeout room was also the place where I ate my bag lunch. So on this particular day I ate my peanut butter & jelly while a GMan peered through venetian blinds with binoculars.

So the question is this: am I guilty by association for the many sins of the FBI during the Hoover Era because I ate lunch in the same room with an agent who was staking out Bill Ayers?"

How is this any different than Barack Obama having a casual relationship with a guy in the neighborhood? Does that make Obama responsible for something the guy did when Obama was eight? Do you have any direct evidence that Obama is now or ever was a Weather Underground sympathizer?

Considering the only association Obama has with this guy is a fundraiser and sitting on a board with him, would you then also agree that Hillary must be associated (and therefore her views) with her fellow boardmembers at union busting Walmart?

If we are going to associate guilt by fundraisers
How about a fundraiser given for Hillary by a known racist who prevented hurricane refugees escape, at gun point, because he had a "duty" to protect, not human life in a catastrophe, but the empty homes of a nearby white residents who had the means to evacuate?

From the NYT

Clinton Accepts Aid From a Divisive Figure
NEW ORLEANS, May 19 — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, who has cast herself as an ally of African-Americans in rebuilding this city, this weekend accepted fund-raising assistance from a family friend who is controversial with many black and white victims of Hurricane Katrina.
The friend, Sheriff Harry Lee of Jefferson Parish, has been close to former President Bill Clinton for many years, and he is popular among some Democrats here. But Sheriff Lee has a long history of making divisive and derogatory remarks, sometimes aimed at residents of neighboring New Orleans, which is predominantly black, and his relationship with many black political leaders is turbulent.

Sheriff Lee drew notoriety shortly after the hurricane when some of his deputies helped prevent hurricane evacuees, most of them black, from crossing the Crescent City Connection bridge into Jefferson Parish. Sheriff Lee defended the move, saying his office had “a duty to protect our people.”

Sheriff Lee was a host committee member for a fund-raiser here Friday night for Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign. The event, which the senator attended, was closed to the news media. A Clinton campaign spokeswoman declined to comment on Mrs. Clinton’s views of Sheriff Lee’s actions in 2005 or on his fund-raising support.
Phone messages left for Sheriff Lee were not returned. A Clinton adviser declined to discuss his role, citing the personal nature of his relationship with both Clintons.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/20/us/politics/20commence.html?_r=2&scp=2&sq=Milestones%3A+Hillary+Clinton&st=nyt&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
It is truly disgusting what this Sheriff did to these poor refugees, who were not only black, but white, asian, elderly and children. The police stood on bridges with machine guns drawn at these poor people who were just trying to escape the flood and get help.

See the footage of the Sheriff Lee's stand off against these refugees, black, while, young, old. It is really disturbing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSsgwajStCo&feature=related

Prove a connection, and this could be a campaign killer. The key is to prove a direct unassailable connection. Otherwise, this is a witch hunt.

Buffenbarger noted, but this just spoke to me.

Yeah! I'll get right on it. Just finished adding it to the urban dictionary (www.urbandictionary.com), pending approval, so check it out a little later. Thanks for the suggestion. I'm hoping The Old Grouch will get to work spreading "Stephanoupolizing"through similar channels. There's only so much this one man can do...

He is making a distinction between "ham-handed" Hillary supporters and regular Hillary supporters. How is this bad?

Hi Otto,

First off, as roo_P is correct to point out, the piece is a knock on Buffenbarger specifically, not on HRC supporters more generally. Indeed, I think I was making the point that Buffenbarger has separated himself from other reasonable HRC supporters by using that stupid and unhelpful "elitist" line of attack (and that it is unfortunate that HRC herself has chosen to embrace this line of attack herself). That said, I had a perfectly lovely Passover seder last night (split down the middle between Obama and Hillary supporters) where we discussed the respective merits of each candidate without the "elitist" canard ever having to enter into the conversation. My post was an appeal for a bit more of that sort of behavior.

Second, In writing this particular post, it was not my objective to win over skeptical Hillary supporters. Thankfully, not all the posts on this site are dedicated to making converts of your opponents' supporters. That would get pretty old pretty quick. But thanks for reading, anyhow!