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Obama's Hate and Racism Now Targets Pennsylvania

First it was the "typical White person" now its the "small town person". 

Memories of Obama's recent racial stereotype of the 'typical White person' are still fresh.  Add to this now his view of the 'typical small town person.'  Obama is quoted as disparaging residents of small towns in Pennsylvania as being "like a lot of small towns in the Midwest" where "it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

So, how should one interpret this latest disrepecting remark?  Is this intended to gain votes in Pennsylvania?  I doubt it will win him any votes.

Obama is unapologetic in his racism and hate.  Recalling his earlier dissing of voters in Florida and Michigan one has to wonder what groups of Americans he really respects?

Matthew
http://www.TheProblemWithObama.com


Comments (71)

Matt, I think your only "problem with Obama" is that he will be the Democratic nominee for President. This is a problem that you need to get over.

Actually, I have not given up hope that people will see Obama for who he is in time to save the Democratic party from nominating a sure loser in the fall. But, if they do not, then he will fit right in with past losers--Kerry, Gore, Mondale, McGovern, and others.

Matthew
http://www.TheProblemWithObama.com

And you'll help every step of the way, right? Right?

Yes, I support Clinton and if she fails, then I'll support McCain. I'm not going to throw away my vote on a loser like I did with Kerry, Gore, and these others. We've had 8 years of Bush and even a minute of Obama is one too many.

Matthew
http://www.TheIndependentView.com

You feel the need to "vote with the winner"? You can't tolerate being hurt and disappointed once more, for the good of the country?

Maybe you'll get a chance to get drafted then. The small chance of heartbreak (even smaller if you had the courage to join us) might be easier to deal with than being shot dead or worse, ending up paralyzed for life or having your brains messed up.

But go ahead and vote for McCain if your petty little heart is more important than your country. Iran, here we come!

Sorry to disappoint you, but I am a military veteran with service in the U.S. Navy.

Matthew
http://www.TheIndependentView.com

No diapointment.

I appreciate your service. If McCain gets elected, and you or your loved ones end up on mission in Iran, I hope you'll be able to still feel good about your decisions.

What do you stand for MW? I ask you in all earnestness. The gap between what Clinton and McCain stand for is huge compared to Clinton and Obama. I mean, if you voted for Kerry and Gore, I don't see how you go with McCain over Obama.

(By the way, Gore won the popular vote. The electoral process was halted and Bush 'nominated' by conservatives on the Supreme Court. So, how would you like a couple more conservatives seated to the bench?)

I'm from small-town PA - and I can tell you that Obama's exactly right. Plenty of people in PA are bitter and they're always on the lookout for scapegoats and conspiracy theories. Obama was actually gracious in phrasing it this way, considering PA voters have gone on the record with the NYTimes calling Obama a 'terrorist.'

I'm not sure when we started confusing the truth with racism and hate.

It is the way he states this as a disparaging stereotype. It is incredibly disrespectful. I grew up in small towns, even live in one now that has about 6,500 residents. Yes, there are economic challenges but to belittle them for their religion, their respect for the second amendment and gun ownership, for their views on illegal immigrants is a bit foolish, especially if he wants their votes!

Matthew
http://www.TheProblemWithObama.com

Maybe it's the way you read it as a disparaging stereotype.

If you'd been there, you would have known he was not diminishing their plight, blaming them or otherwise being disparaging.

If you say: "lots of inner city blacks are poor", it's just fact. It's not disparaging.

If you say: "lots of mexicans along the border don't have health care" it's fact.

You're seeing everything through very murky glasses right now. And the media is not helping.

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THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!

!!!HILLMENTUM™!!!!

How about a substantive comment?

Matthew
http://www.TheProblemWithObama.com

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How about a substantive argument being presented first? People like you who just write these absurd posts must live pretty pathetic and useless lives if this is the best that you can do with your time. I don't understand how one
makes it through life being completely divorced from reality....but you are seriously just a waste of space. I also noticed that when someone posted Obama's full remarks you had nothing to say...typical of trolls like you.

I suggest you go to a therapist and seek some counseling. You need serious help and it's really quite sad. I'm glad a psycho like you isn't supporting Obama.

Matthew,
Should that be Obama's "Un-American, lazy, fried chicken lovin', terroristic, Chicago style hate and racism" now targets Pennsylvania. You are slipping.

Economides,

Okay, I'll give you Un-American by his long association with Rev. Wright and Rev. Meeks who expouse the worst of racism and hate toward America.

Lazy? I don't think so, but it is true he was spoonfed his bills in Illinois Senate and has claimed credit for bills in the U.S. Senate that he did little or no work on.

Fried chicken lovin'? I have no clue.

Terroristic? Well lets see, Rezko gets his funds that in turn got to Obama from arms dealers and others in the Middle East that appear to have some connection with terrorism. Plus, he has worked closely with Ayers, a domestic terrorist, and with him to give funding to folks associated with Palestinian terrorists.

Chicago style hate and racism? If this is represented by Wright and Meeks, then yes.

Matthew
http://www.TheProblemWIthObama.com

Matthew, I'm trying to take you at your word that you are a Democrat, but it's difficult. If you haven't done so recently, look at your profile. All of your blog entries have been anti-Obama—not pro-Clinton, but specifically anti-Obama. 2 of your 3 favorite blogs are specifically targeted against Obama—again, not pro-Clinton, but anti-Obama. Finally, every single one of your comments that are currently visible on there are anti-Obama instead of being pro-Clinton.

Why is it so much more important to you to attack Obama than to support Clinton?

Ben,

There are some positive comments about Clinton and McCain on my Web site, http://www.TheIndependentView.com. You are very correct that I should share more and I will. Right now I'm still not finished with the initial content that I want to include on TheObamaCult and TheProblemWithObama Web sites. For example, a documented list of Obama lies and on the Cult web site some of the more egregious examples of his cult-like following.

I'll work on the positive...

Matthew

I'll work on the positive...

I look forward to it!

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Please don't give that man's site any page views so that he can profit off his ignorance and disgusting behavior.

I assumed he was talking about his posts here, and not on his blogs. I have no intention of visiting a site named "The Problem With Obama", and I suspect he wasn't talking about putting positive stuff on that site.

I really just want to encourage him to find positive things to say about Hillary (as well as to avoid going so negative on Obama). If he can do that, then he's worth having a dialog with.

Racism and Hate? Bit of a stretch, I'd have to say. I was born in Western PA, spent 99% of my life there. My family, on both sides, has lived in Pennsylvania for as long as they've lived in America. 95% of my friends are born, raised, and living in PA. I take no offense to this remark, nor is it off-base.

Will we be attacking John Mellancamp next?

I see in your profile you commented on another post, "Why can't folks have a mature discussion?"

And yet, I cannot find one example of either a post or a comment in your profile that isn't based on your own hatred of Obama. You even devote the time needed to write two, (not one, but two!) whole blogs devoted entirely to your Obama hate-fest. And the third certainly isn't lacking in the anti-Obama rhetoric either.

I ask you, what is the point? Is this really what amounts to a mature discussion in your view?

And while I certainly respect your right to support whoever you wish for whatever reason, I assure you, these types of posts do very little, if not absolutely nothing to convince those who may be on the fence about the two. We have yet to see a post from you extolling Clinton's virtues as opposed to just attacking Obama. Why are you for Clinton, exactly???

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Obama gets to disparage himself, rather half himself, in the "typical white person" remark as he's half typical white.

As for the "typical small town," I'm from a small town, I've talked to a small town and my friend, he's no small town. Small towns have feelings. They have been disenfranchised by maps around the world. What rightful small town would cast its vote for such a man? Now I'm only speaking on behalf of small towns. The people who live in them, on the other hand, are a lot smarter than getting bent out of shape over these things.

Signed, former small town resident.

Typical

Not so, Larry. Not typical at all. In fact, Matt sounds abnormally tired, defeated. Like his heart isn't in the Obama smears anymore, he's just going through the motions. Hardly a "typical" post for Matthew Weaver.

But can you send me some Gorilla Coffee? I can't get a decent cup ever since I left Park Slope. Especially not where I live now.

Well, I don't drink coffee, so... But when Hillary concedes, you tell me where to pick some up, and it's done.

In fact, thinking about it, what other way is there to celebrate Hillary's ultimate demise than drinking a nice, steamy brew of Gorilla coffee?

Allsburg,

Tired maybe, we've got 6-month old twins. Defeated?! Not in my vocabulary. Smears, no and never. I try to be respectful of writers and yet also pointed about Obama. I especially make sure that if I offer a statement it has some means to document. I'm not interested in sharing unsubstantiated criticisms as they don't reflect well on anyone, especially the messenger.

Matthew
http://www.TheIndependentView.com

Re-read your posts above then. What was substantive about them? It's all in the eye of the beholder.

Are you intent on making sure Obama becomes as polarizing a public figure as Sen. Clinton? When did you become spiteful of his broad appeal?

As opposed to, for example, your hate and racism, which targets Sen. Obama?

I harbor no hate and racism. Please don't place such labels on me as an apparent means to dismiss what I write.

Matthew
http://www.TheProblemWithObama.com

You seem to harbor all the telltale signs then. Nobody can be proven to be a racist. But you sure are disparaging about the "uppity negro". You SEEM afraid.

You harbor much hatred and racism, and display it here on a regular basis. Your lies and games are not working. Only you can not see this.

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Ah, so here's the thing. Positive comments about Clinton and McCain. So this isn't about the issues, it's about YOUR racist views. I get it now. Sorry to have wasted my time.

WHAT racist views?! I have none and have never written any here or elsewhere.

Matthew
http://www.TheIndependentView.com

Do you even KNOW what racism means?

I'd love to hear your definition of it.

I don't believe you voted for Kerry, BTW.

What is it that you like about McCain? I hear he really knows how to treat his lady. Is that why you're going to vote for him? Or is it because he is the only potential candicate who had dropped bombs on civilians?

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Mr. Weaver,

I am curious about where this quote came from, and if it is exact. Did Obama say all people from small towns? Was it in response to a question or part of prepared remarks? I have seen the Politico quote, but I have not seen a video or another confirmation that this is, in fact, exactly what he said.

I am also curious about why you prefer McCain to the democratic candidate, especially after you have a long history of voting for democrats. Sure, it is great to support a winner, but not so much, when it is someone who is opposed to all of your personal beliefs and values.

It all comes from a Fowler hit piece

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html

It got truncated and posted on politico.

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Thank you. I had a hard time undertanding the audio, but it does put the statement in a different light. The broader conversation adds quite a bit to understanding what he is saying. I find it interesting that the author complains about the unfair generalizations made against small town PA voters, but making an unfair generalization about CA voters.

Can you say "hit piece"? How about "lack of scruples" and "bias"?

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I guess, from what I could tell, Obama was trying to explain some of the less enlightened comments from PA voters, which have been well publicized in this long primary dry spell. (Remember the llama?) He seems to be saying that some of these people are deeply distrustful of government as a whole, and even more distrustful of a guy named Obama, that they don't know anything about. He explains these people (it didn't sound like he was saying everyone from small town PA)by essentially validating that they have a right to be angry, and then talking about some of the ways the anger is being expressed.

Overall, this is not my favorite Obama comment. I think it invites misinterpretation, similar to the Ronald Reagan commment that was so widely misquoted and misunderstood. I don't blame Hillary for taking advantage, but sometimes it backfires once the quote is explained.

It seems to me that the media, by continuosly turning this into a black/white, male/female, hispanic/jewish, rich/poor controversy, is the real bad guy here. They publish PA voters' quotes that are the most outrageous and ignorant, and then try to pass them off as main stream voters. No wonder they need to be explained to people in other parts of the country. The author of this article doesn't even put much effort into appearing outraged. She just moves right along into her narrative about how superficial and arrogant California voters are. Create the problem, then criticize those who try to explain it.

Obama made the comment at a fundraiser in San Francisco earlier this week. You can find multiple references to it at Politico, CNN, Huffington, and other sites.

In fact, I just heard Clinton addressing this at a gathering in Pennsylvania just broadcast on cable.

Matthew
http://www.TheProblemWithObama.com

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I know there are many references to it, but it seems to all go back to that one quote. What is the context? Where is the video? I want to know why he said this, and exactly how it was phrased. I can't imagine that he thinks that everyone from a small town in PA has these views, so it is hard for me to take this quote at face value. I am a supporter of HRC also, but unlike you, I would prefer to see HRC win, I have no interest in seeing Obama lose.

Hillary wants him to lose though.

The original quote is above.

The video should surface soon.

Hillary's take is here:

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/obama_on_guns_and_religion_in.php

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As an African American I and others I know have been called many things - "Jungle Bunny?"

"Typical White Person" hardly scratches the surface.

I just wish we could elect a candidate without all the racism and sexism (I'm female). I just want the candidate to win because he/she is the best.

Matt doesn't understand that nouns don't make good adjectives, they're ambiguous.

See, I read "Obama Hate" as Weaver himself, because it's such elegant shorthand for his hateful and racist views. He spews and personifies "Obama Hate."

So I think Weaver means that he has "targeted" Pennsylvania.

Maybe, like Christo, he can put a red circle-slash the size of Philadelphia over it in a demonstration of "Obama Hate."

I have in mind a tribute to Weaver.

Yup.

Greg just posted her response to his outrageous comment:

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/obama_on_guns_and_religion_in.php

Clinton nailed him on it.

I will concede that Obama probably should not use the word typical to describe any people. I am sure he will make an adjustment on that. However, the problem with your post is the assumption that he meant something malicious by it. Obama is not a malicious man. He is well meaning. His sincerity is palpable -- unlike lying-ass Hillary Clinton -- of whom 50 percent of the country does not trust!

So Obama will make gaffes from time to time.

However, Obama is a constantly improving candidate. I reference his debate performances as exhibit A. I am confident that he will make the adjustment and be a better candidate for it.

Some of those other crooks and clowns in Washington DC know all the rules. Obama is not an insider, so he is prone to mistakes. But he is not malicious in his intent, and he is not dishonest.

Unlike lying-ass Clinton -- down in her bunker surrounded by expensive sandwich platters.

Dodging missiles.

First it was the "typical Black person" now its the "inner city person".

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I am tired of black people defending Barack just because he's black, and calling everyone else racist if you dont support Barack.

To me, Hillary's lies are pathetic, but her lies make me laugh, like she's pulling a joke on everyone. I trust the woman despite her lies because thats what she is.
Barack however manages to present another person in your face while being another persona at the back, and thats scarier.
Furthermore, the fact that catholic figures like Pelosi and Richardson support Barack just goes to show that there are DNC people who wants DNC to lose in the person of Barack. If Barack wins over Hillary, I will bet all my earnings that McCain will win. The catholic pedophile priests will save money and all the work and fights of the christians against the catholic mafia style of Italy, down the drain.

I am tired about you making assumptions about who is defending Barack, who is voting for Barack, who is giving money to Barack, or whom Barack is going to lose to.

The general will be coming around the corner soon, and you'll have two choices. Whichever one you make, I hope you can live with the consequences.

In the mean time, go to one of the rallies and look at the crowd. Then come back and tell me that he's propped up by blacks and DNC types.

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You seem to have some serious anti-Catholic baggage. I don't have any idea what your point was, but it is pretty clear that you have some serious issues. I think it is probably a good thing that your comments were incoherent. Most likely they would be far more distasteful if they were clearly expressed.

The really odd thing (other than having the anti-Catholic baggage in the first place) is that, IIRC, Catholics are one of Clinton's better demographics.

The point of my post and the comments we are sharing back and forth are to discuss Obama's apparently disparaging remarks. Although some people offer labels of racism back for criticism of Obama, which I and others regularly object to, I likewise absolutely see no justification whatsoever for your anti-Catholic remarks. What does this add to the conversation?! Personally, if I might suggest, just as with the other trash talk, why don't you keep this to yourself. In any case, it offers nothing to the discussion at hand, except to completely discredit you.

Matthew
http://www.TheIndependentView.com

Another slimeball post by a Newsmax/Rush Limbaugh lovin' troll.

*puke*

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Oh, the whiteman's outrage. It's so awful when someone generalizes about the behavior of white people, seeing as how they're the racial majority and hold most of the power and money in this country and all.

Sorry, but this is obviously a silly, trumped-up bit of absurdity.

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Dont worry, the abstract ideas you dont follow wont hurt you. Whats clear to a group of people are incoherent and stupid to another group of people of low iq.

I went to one of his rallies. Same crap, change, hope and all other combinations of hope and change.

He's a preacher all right, entertaining to watch. But I still dont trust him.
Just wait and watch, something will come up.


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I was not disparaging catholic people duh. BUt the mafia-style catholic pedophiles.

GOd, I dont know, this is like talking to a bunch of second graders.

What is the source of your anti-Catholic bigotry?

Anyone who will not distinguish between the actions of depraved individuals and a group who does not share their twisted values is by definition a bigot.

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You say you are not a racist, but have not explained or given your answer to the request to express what racism means to you.

Some of us would really like to hear your definition.

It honestly feels you are brimming over with
hate. The majority of people for Obama are not filled with hate for Hillary. We just much prefer Obama.

OBAMA: So, it depends on where you are, but I think it's fair to say that the places where we are going to have to do the most work are the places where people are most cynical about government. The people are mis-appre...they're misunderstanding why the demographics in our, in this contest have broken out as they are. Because everybody just ascribes it to 'white working-class don't wanna work -- don't wanna vote for the black guy.' That's...there were intimations of that in an article in the Sunday New York Times today - kind of implies that it's sort of a race thing.


Here's how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long. They feel so betrayed by government that when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn't buy it. And when it's delivered by -- it's true that when it's delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama, then that adds another layer of skepticism.

But -- so the questions you're most likely to get about me, 'Well, what is this guy going to do for me? What is the concrete thing?' What they wanna hear is -- so, we'll give you talking points about what we're proposing -- to close tax loopholes, you know, roll back the tax cuts for the top 1 percent. Obama's gonna give tax breaks to middle-class folks and we're gonna provide health care for every American.

But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

Um, now these are in some communities, you know. I think what you'll find is, is that people of every background -- there are gonna be a mix of people, you can go in the toughest neighborhoods, you know working-class lunch-pail folks, you'll find Obama enthusiasts. And you can go into places where you think I'd be very strong and people will just be skeptical. The important thing is that you show up and you're doing what you're doing.

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More Obama-bashing.....

They SCOUR every word, utterance.

In this case, that Mayhill Fowler's rather positive article is SCOURED for some sort of weapon.

Yesterday Fox was going after him because they were arranging people for a photo shoot and wanted more white people in it. Standard stuff. But a "reporter overheard this" and then > Politico > FoxNews > RushLimbaugh .....

Obama must be PERFECT or he is hammered. McCain/Hillary just have to not lie all that much, must limit the racial smears to an acceptable level.

eg. Someone introducing McCain this week called Obama "Tiger woods" and McCain gave him a big hug! Politico, FoxNews, ABC, CNN everyone ignored it.

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You can disregard this if you like. It might be too "low IQ" for you. However, most Catholics that I know, myself and my family included, take offense to the description of priests as "mafia style catholic pedofiles." They are also insulted by the claim that Christians are somehow separate from Catholics.

But I will give you this. You have managed to criticize Obama in a way that I have never heard before. Tying him to the mafia style Catholic pedofiles is a sure winner.

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Matthew = GOP troll

Maybe wishful thinking on your part but absolutely untrue.

Matthew
http://www.TheIndependentView.com

You don't get to make that call, Matthew.

TheObamaCult and TheProblemWithObama Web sites. For example, a documented list of Obama lies and on the Cult web site some of the more egregious examples of his cult-like following.

This is second maybe third time that I have had to debunk the "Obama cult" meme. Let me disclose that I didn't vote for Sen. Clinton, Sen. Obama nor Sen. McCain but the more I see this sort of discourse, the more I am inclined to support Sen. Obama.

Bob Myers is an advanced candidate for the Ph.D. in U.S. History at the University of California, Los Angeles. Myers is currently a Teaching Fellow in the UCLA Cluster Program.

"I remember the time (about 15 years ago) when the advocates for… Africans were treated as fanatics, and considered as the disturbers of the peace of society." --Dr. Benjamin Rush to Granville Sharp, 1783"

As an African American historian of mental illness in the 19th Century, I am compelled to comment on the frequent use of madness metaphors to explain the success of Senator Barack Obama’s presidential campaign. Clinton and the media at large repeatedly characterize Obama’s historic success and momentum as “Obama-Mania,” some sort of intangible phenomena in which people are “spell-bound.” Instead of rallying for support, like any other candidate, Obama supporters are portrayed as “delusional.” Psychiatric language may be common place, even ubiquitous in the 21st century, but to employ it as a way to marginalize and disenfranchise African-American political momentum certainly has historical roots.

Why unnecessarily and very falsely make this into a racist discussion. There is nothing racist about the cult or the argument except you racist response.

Matthew
http://www.TheProblemWithObama.com

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And here's another newsflash.
There is chemical that when you spray in the air, the people inhaling it becomes giddily happy. Ok, now Low IQ people who cant follow, think first before you react violently.

And what would that be?

I don't believe you.

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