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Obama & Africa
Walking around Nairobi the past couple of days wearing an Obama '08 t-shirt was a heady experience. Literally, I couldn't go three seconds without someone yelling out a supportive "Obama!" chant, or shaking my hand, or outright hugging me on the street, or joking about the absurdity (in their eyes) of a white person supporting a black candidate. Many people talked about how seeing the support for Obama among many whites in the United States had great symbolic significance for Kenya, a country in which the "democracy" is still effectively "vote for the member of your tribe". That way of thinking of course is responsible for the recent post-election violence in the country.
Anyway, I wanted to share one other comment made to me by the manager of my hotel in Nairobi, which I thought was interesting. He said that he has talked to many people who have stayed in his hotel over the past couple of months from all over Africa, and all of them are extremely excited about Obama, despite the loyalty that many Africans feel towards the Clintons (especially Bill). He said that what Obama represents to Africans is the possibility of Africa becoming a place known for more than genocide, repression and HIV. That generally, the west only pays attention to Africa during situations like the crisis in Kenya, or the disaster in Zimbabwe, and represents Africans only as either perpetuators or victims of violence and disease. In Obama, my hotel manager said that for the first time, an African might become important and famous, not for something he has contributed to Africans (like say Mandela) but for something he has contributed to western countries. He believes Obama as President of the United States would send a signal throughout the continent that African people have something to offer, and he expressed hope that would have wide-ranging and long term effects on the way Africans see themselves.
He was certainly very optimistic, but I thought it was an interesting opinion. Obama has to walk a fine line in terms of African politics, but I do wonder whether he would have a postitive impact. Right now, it is easy for the corrupt thugs of Africa to rail against the international community as nothing more than new forms of colonialism, a view that justifies despotic and corrupt governments. If the international community was led by a second generation African, I wonder whether people would be less accepting of that kind of ideology.






Comments (39)
And what would Africa have to offer? Please do tell, can you offer any tangible example? Well, besides colorful dashikis and hand-made crafts for sale in Cambridge. Well, and besides raw materials and natural resources, which have to be extracted by Western companies with heavy security to keep the natives from butchering or kidnapping the workers.
April 7, 2008 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are you serious?
Excuse me while I pretend you don't exist so I can maintain my faith in humanity...
April 7, 2008 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please ignore Milla who has some of the ugliest comments by a troll on the site. Milla gives trolls a bad name!
April 7, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't worry, Milla, McCain will bring them the beautiful privatization you love and usher in the millennium of the free market!
Long live the free market!
Long live (or at least remain undead) John McCain!
April 7, 2008 2:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
By reducing an entire continent to dashiki-clad, murderous natives, you have revealed much about your own ignorance, fear and insecurity.
Even if the next President is a bigoted moron like you, Milla, he or she will be engaging Africa. Any basic understanding of our national security suggests that we cannot let countries in Africa slip further into anarchy, famine, disease, etc. So even if you don't care a bit about your fellow man, the best thing we can do for Africans and for ourselves is expand upon the good deeds we are doing there.
April 7, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Calling TrollCritic 3000!
April 7, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry. He's busy with gotalife right now.
April 8, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hmm, not a very creative anti-Obama person there. What does Obama have to offer? Easy!!!! He offers us the possibility of electing a President who is not a slothful dilettante, who actually got great grades in school, who passed a difficult bar exam, who worked as a community organizer in a rough part of Chicago, who was elected to an Illinois state office, who then ran for the US Senate and won, and now who has run an exceptional campaign. A campaign that has mastered fund-raising by focusing on small gifts while involving the masses in an election. VERY IMPRESSIVE!!!! Give it a thought, he might just impress you as he has many others. Well, others who have looked at the facts with open minds are now working for his election. Of course, for a free thinker who is not under the thumb of the nasty far right media snobs, making that commitment is an easy one.
April 8, 2008 1:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nice post. However, I think the gentleman will be quite disappointed by Mr. Obama and his voice on African issues. To date, he has said little if anything. Obviously, as stated, the work already done by both Clintons on the African Continent are great and would be and obvious focus with a Hillary Clinton Administration.
April 7, 2008 2:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think he may be more disappointed because the west doesn't see Obama as an African export and any success or failure of an Obama administration wouldn't reflect much of anything back on the continent.
To characterize Obama has having said "little if anything" about Africa, however, is false. A sampling:
He's sponsored and cosponsored a body of legislation favorable to Africa, including s. 2433 [110th], s. 2125 [109th], an attachment to the Iraq Supplemental Appropriations bill providing $13.2 million in aid to the Congo, a Senate allocation of $60 million toward launching a UN peacekeeping mission in the Darfur region (part of the $94.5 bil emergency spending bill of that year), amongst others and not including favorable votes on other legislation sponsored by others.
He's started a microcredit program an initial $14,000 investment from his funds from a book deal. The microcredit program allows Kenyan women aged 50 or older who have adopted children with AIDS to obtain loans to buy things necessary to start small businesses.
He's visited the continent as a Senator and used his celebrity in Africa to give well-covered talks on letting go of tribal hostilities, as well as helping destigmatize AIDS testing by having himself and Michelle Obama tested publicly.
The Clintons and (groan) even Bush deserve credit for work they've done in Africa, but in celebrating that work, be careful that you don't mischaracterize or outright lie about your opponents' efforts. It does you no favors to appear ignorant.
April 7, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think he may be more disappointed because the west doesn't see Obama as an African export and any success or failure of an Obama administration wouldn't reflect much of anything back on the continent.
You are probably right that the international media will see Obama as primarily african-american. But I bet you'll see some clear indications of Obama's African identify in an Obama administration. For example, if he is elected, I bet Obama's first visit to Kenya as President would be a huge media event.
... He's visited the continent as a Senator and used his celebrity in Africa to give well-covered talks on letting go of tribal hostilities, as well as helping destigmatize AIDS testing by having himself and Michelle Obama tested publicly.
Yeah, I saw several copies of posters showing Barack and Michelle's HIV test. He's already a central face in a pretty big public health campaign in Kenya. And he shows real awareness and insight into the way Kenyan's understand themselves in Dreams of My Father. And in addition to all of that, he is incredibly popular - and may be on his way to beloved - by huge majorities of Africa. I'm pretty excited about his potential.
The difficulty, I think, is that at least during the election, he can't show too much interest in Africa or risk being branded an African candidate (God forbid we have a President who cares a lot about the part of the world that is most desperately in need of help). But it's clear to me from reading Dreams of My Father that Obama has a great love for Africa, a very good understanding of it, and some ideas about reform.
I've always supported Obama for what he can do for America; after seeing Nairobi, I'm starting to get pretty excited about what he can do for Africa.
April 7, 2008 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Irony abounds. Obama can't afford to be associated with the idea of an Afro-centric foreign policy? If we weren't occupying Iraq he could.
April 8, 2008 9:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly.
Not one soul will think it is Jew-centric if he focuses our foreign policy around Israel's needs.
April 8, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
It is not about the U.S., it is about Africa. I suspect you have little, ahah, experience to understand the type of change this might allow to happen in Africa, by Africans.
April 7, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Satya, I am half-East African (like Obama!), and I too find that every single Kenyan and Tanzanian I've spoken with in the past five or six months has been super-excited about Obama. It says a lot that so many East Africans have said to me, "It's funny/sad that the United States will have a Luo president before Kenya does."
That being said, I suspect that most Americans couldn't care less what Africans think of them, or of America. Many Americans I know are just as uninformed (albeit much less hateful) about Africa as Milla the troll. But that doesn't matter for Obama's chances -- even apart from the symbolism his presidency would represent, Obama is incredibly powerful as an American candidate, on his merits. (Besides, even though America is a country of immigrants, I wouldn't really like him to be cast as the "foreigners' candidate.")
April 7, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am not denigrating his efforts. I would argue they are lackluster efforts to be sure. S2433 is a mom and apple pie bill destined not to do anything substantive. The Congo bill is nice(would notice one of the cosponsers of said bill) but really more of a band-aid than a real help. My point was that there is little or nothing done from our side to help Africa. As well, I am not saying that the Clinton record is that stellar(Rwanda). There has always been a lot of talk and popular slogans at certain times for the Continent but nothing driven and long term. No matter who wins this I am hopeful some real efforts will be made to help save Africa. Its on the brink now more than it has ever been and the world is happy to sit by and watch. Including us who'd rather argue over whether Wright said something wrong or Hillary lied about a 10 year old detail to Women, Men and chidren suffering.
I am not saying that we should bear the brunt of that effort as well. To the contrary, we need to be able to force the EU to step up and be responsible for the problems that they created in Africa.
April 7, 2008 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, at long last we find something to agree on. :)
April 7, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Naw, we've been pretty right on on African policy. Not exactly our most shining moment. To me it such a sad thing since it COULD be our most shining moment as a people. Yes, as I am sure Scofflaw could tell us in more realistic terms, there are many issues there but we really don't do anything help the situation.
A solid policy to understand the problems and revers centuries of abuse would do so much for our standing. And not just platitudes. Real help. And not just our ideas of help. Listen, really listen to the people there and their ideas. I get so frustrated when our solutions are always through the glasses of Americans. We've got to realize the rest of the world isn't America!
We expect centuries of abuse of both Tutsi and Hutu by Europeans to be solved because we asked everyone to kiss and makeup. Its lunacy.......arghhh.....Anyway sorry for my pontifications.
April 7, 2008 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
That does it, Louisville. That was the last straw. I've been on the fence about you for a month, but you've done it now. You are now, officially, off my troll list. TrollCritic would have to take megapoints off for being compassionate, well informed, and advocating important and reasonable progressive political goals in a non-combative manner. How will you ever hope to have a beer with Genghis if you keep writing posts like these!
April 7, 2008 5:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pish, you've obviously missed some other posts....I'll be back on that list in no time!
April 7, 2008 6:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Likewise, Louisville. The thought, humour and compassion you've been putting into your posts lately pretty much disqualify you from my troll list, too. Although I'm sure we haven't seen the end of the glee you get from needling us Obama supporters when we get too righteous ;)
April 7, 2008 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
None of you would be using a cell phones, lap top computers, PDAs OR playing video games were it not for the materials (such as COLTAN) that still come out of African. (Coltan is what the Congo genocide is all about!) Africa is still being raped, and the West (meaning US) are the primary beneficiaries. Hopefully Obama, as president, will do more than make symbolic gestures toward Africa. He must look at the raw, naked anatomy of U.S./African "trade relations" and make some serious MF'n changes.
April 7, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. The list is very very long. I just hope that we finally admit what has happened and fix it. I think we can here in the US. I just can't see Europe fessing up and offering to help. I've talked endlessly to friends there and they just don't understand it. Head in the sand. English are willing to blame France, who are willing to blame the germans , who are willing to blame the Spanish..etc etc etc. That the British sit on the sidelines of the whole Zim problems and won't even try to use their influence in the region to help, to me, is disgusting. Ditto...Chad and the french.....Here I go again....
April 7, 2008 6:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Milla said: And what would Africa have to offer?
China and India are finding a lot to like about Africa. They are going into business there, and not just for the commodities like the oil, diamonds, copper, etc. They're starting businesses, building hotels and other infrastructure. While the U.S. is off tilting at windmills and letting its currency and economy collapse, Asia is positioning itself to lead the world in the 21st century.
April 7, 2008 5:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Putting all the heavy comments aside for a moment - indeed Africa is tragically raped and shouldn't have to suffer like it does when it's such a rich place in terms of people and resources.
The original post topic makes me really happy. I started out with Edwards - I let him put his class ring around my neck, though I will admit I was somewhat faithless and still flirted with Obama. One of the first things I thought about Obama was the possibility that electing him could go a long way toward repairing some of the damage our image has suffered the last 8 years. Ok, it's superficial, Africa needs real help. But so does our image in the eyes of the rest of the world.
What finally made me fall head over heels with Obama was caucus night here in Dallas, Texas. I have never seen anything like it in my life. I have lived in a Democratic dead zone for years, knowing that Texas was a Democratic state a lot longer than it has been Republican, and knowing, too, that there are a lot of Democrats here. They are mostly in urban areas, but not all by any means. When no candidate bothered to so much as visit down here; when we couldn't even get campaigns to send enough yard signs to meet the demand - no wonder no one voted. The Southern Strategy didn't just start losing us elections, it has deepened the poverty down here, and stagnated our hopes of turning things around for years as the religious right tromped all over us and the Repugs stole as much as they could.
Until 2006, when Howard Dean finally broke through that stupid campaign style that started with Bill Clinton. And then suddenly, we started seeing Democrats elected again. WE threw out 49 Repug judges in Dallas Co. in '06. The whole state is in play this time. But if we go back to wooing the same old coalition, it will all just die.
So Obama is standing up to my expectations, and my hopes, and more, so far. Thanks for the post.
April 7, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lets face it. Our diversity is the biggest strength that we have. If we'd all put down our ego's we've got people here from every country on earth that if we asked could help bridge our "gap" in understanding. Of course, its that ego bit that gets in our way. I am a Clinton supporter but am I going to say Obama can't be great force for Africa. Yes, he can. And, to my way of thinking he can focus a lot of wasted effort in the AA community into helping out Africa.
April 7, 2008 11:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
When will we see, Farrakan, Jackson, or Sharpton going to Africa to help their bros? They are not hurting for $$ and they have plenty of mouth.
Should BHO muddle thru and get elected, I bet they will on the first trip he takes.
April 7, 2008 11:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
... USAID, the World Bank, Monsanto sponsored NGOs pushing addictive crop fertilizers to lands successfully farmed for centuries, US policy of nonaction to genocide, US govt/ business support of brutal regimes for attractive economic deals.
Yes, yes.
A great discussion. No easy answers to sort out this deplorable exploitation.
And a question, would an outsider be better suited to bring about significant shifting in policy?
April 7, 2008 11:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is obvious knock-on effects coming because of Global Warming(of course over 50% of this country doesn't think its a problem) with drought and lack of water becoming a major major issue. The US stands as one of the only countries with the engineeriing expertise to help Africa build the infrastructure needed to alleviate this problem. As well, many talented people from Africa are poring out of the Continent for Europe and the US in search of better opportunities. We ignore what is happening there at our peril.
April 8, 2008 12:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
And, to my way of thinking he can focus a lot of wasted effort in the AA community into helping out Africa.
Because, of course, things at home for the AA community are just so peachy keen. Your "wasted effort" formulation grates. Sorry.
Maybe I should stop fretting about the fate of my white trash/redneck kin stuck in the ditch here in the "homeland" and instead start worrying about how our Old World "relations" over there across the pond are doing?
We're all Americans now, you wanker.
April 8, 2008 7:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe you should just ask for examples of "wasted effort?" Just a suggestion.
April 8, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, I find that entire line of thinking so ridiculous that I'd just as soon snark to my heart's content about it ... Is that OK with you?
How'd it play if I were to suggest that the Archie Bunkers of our country ought to stop whining and do something about their kin living under socialist oppression over 'there', where (supposedly) ossified social and political conditions prevent an honest man from making good on his own terms?
The comment I'm commenting on is what American exceptionalism looks like after the melanin panic sets in.
April 8, 2008 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
I guess if you don't know what somebody is talking about and don't care to find out, you're free to project anything you want onto it. Some of us are more "all Americans" than others. Obama has chosen to associate himself with black culture. In his view, the association was forced on him by the perceptions of the dominant white culture, including policemen of unspecified race who "see" him as black. But, however he got there, Obama thinks of himself as part of the black community, so it's fair to talk about what the black community is doing for the black community and how those efforts might be impacted by an Obama Presidency. I thought if was interesting that someone is saying that the black community is wasting effort on something. I'm curious about what he thinks they're wasting their efforts on.
April 8, 2008 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Too bad Obama's Kenyan father didn't support him.
April 8, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Irrelevant Post of the Day nominee!
April 8, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I read an article somewhere that claimed that Kikuyus in Kenya were mainly rooting for Clinton. It seems slightly ludicrous, but since they are in such a pitched political battle with Luos right now, and Obama has such an obvious Luo name (Odinga, Obama...), it is plausible. Did you encounter any of this?
April 8, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I read the same reports, I spent most of my time in almost entirely Kikuyu areas, I specifically asked about whether Kikuyus were less likely to support Obama, and I didn't meet a single Kikuyu who didn't enthusiastically support him. I'm sure they are out there, but I imagine they are a fringe minority.
A common joke all over Kenya is that a Luo has a better chance of being elected President of the United States than he does of being elected President of Kenya.
April 8, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I read the same thing as scribbly -- I think it was in the NY Times -- but my experience is the same as Satya's: the Kikuyus I know (over there and in North America) are as excited as any other East Africans about Obama's candidacy. (I don't personally know any Luos, come to think of it.)
April 8, 2008 11:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Some of us are more "all Americans" than others. ... Obama thinks of himself as part of the black community, so it's fair to talk about what the black community is doing for the black community
I agree with Chino. Billy, I'm sure you don't mean to suggest this, but your argument implies that African-Americans are somehow less American than white Americans.
As Louisville pointed out (I never expected to agree with anything Louisville wrote, but I'm delighted to be surprised),
Real help. And not just our ideas of help. Listen, really listen to the people there and their ideas.
The same is true of African-Americans. It's safe to say that African-Americans, like any other citizens in a democracy, are entitled to decide what their own political priorities are.
Of course, you're free to disagree with any political priority an African-American might set, but as Chino says, if you think black Americans owe something to Africans that white Americans don't owe to Europeans, you might want to reassess what "American" means to you.
April 8, 2008 11:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
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