Will this be the next big whopper?

What on earth can she possibly mean? Lalo or Louisville, can you help us out here. She was against it before she voted for it? After she voted for it?

She says in the article that while Obama spoke out against the war, his speech was not a decision. She, on the other hand? She decided to authorize the war.

This is her way of criticizing Obama?

I will be looking for her critique of the war before Obama's speech.

Through the mirror...

Okay, let me get this straight:

Obama made a speech in 2002, saying that this was a very bad idea and he predicted how it would make things worse, and we can look back and see that he was right.

I remember Clinton DID start criticizing the war in 2003, but I distinctly remember hearing her say in an NPR interview that she thought it was good that we were in Iraq, but that we shouldn't be trying to do what we were doing "on the cheap."

But before the war? I wouldn't characterize her position on the war as being critical. However, I might characterize her position as being, at best, naive; at worst, calculating and politically cowardly.

If your memory needs refreshing, I invite you to review her speech in 2002:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=t8fknhbB-Xo&feature=related

In addition to Hillary's vote for attacking Iraq she voted against 3 amendments that would have curbed Bush's rush to war. One of which was submitted by Dick Durbin (D-Il) that would have compelled Bush to demonstrate "imminent threat" prior to invading Iraq.

The second was Levin's amendment. Granted Levin's bill called for the UN's approval before force could be used, but it also reinforced America's right to defend itself even if the UN voted against it. Therein nothing in that bill was an impediment to the US in any way. Yet Hillary claimed it would have made the president "subordinate" to the UN.

Although the amendments were defeated Hillary had 3 chances to slow down Bush's rush to war, but chose not to!

And she claims to have been against the war. Give me a break!

This woman's propensity to fabricate every situation, circumstance frankly reminds me more of Bush each passing day. I may get hit hard on that comment, but it is true.

HRC embellished NAFTA, FMLA, SCHIP, Ireland, Bosnia, the health care incident and now the war.

Please!

Hillary hurts herself each time she talks out of school. It is harming her credibility enormously!

Here's another video of Hillary speaking to Code Pink shortly before the war began. There's nothing anti-war about what she's saying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_KEWUU33Lg

On the plus side, she wasn't pandering! The Code Pink women were very unhappy with her stance.

Clinton, who continued making her case to the Obama supporter drew loud cheers from the crowd when she told the man: “I wish we could believe that we could get to universal health care, that we could turn the economy around, that we could end the home foreclosure crisis merely bay asking people to do it, by bringing them together, by pointing to a higher cause and expecting them to shelve their personal, ideological, personal and partisan advantages, that is not the way the world has ever worked.”

This part is kind of a puzzlement to me. Her campaign theme is actually soul-crushing. I don't care if you say she is being "realistic" or a "fighter", but successful Presidential campaigns have alway had a fair amount of hope and aspirations to high ideas. I mean how exactly does she propose to pass bills through Congress? Bribe Congresspeople and shoot the dissidents?

If there is an affliction that combines amnesia with lying, persecution complex and Tourette's Syndrome, Hillary has it -- and it must be contagious as everyone in Hillaryland has it.

She has no long-term memory except for when it is "convenient." She has no concept of "truth" or even "truthiness" as we conventionally know it. "Truth" to her is whatever comes out of her mouth, and she and her minions will persist that it is true until it is proven to be irrefutably false, and then suggest YOU are wrong, YOU misheard, YOU misremembered, not her. And when that fails, it is of course someone else's fault and she is the "victim."

That is not what we want in the White House.

What the heck is she talking about?

If she thinks she can get away with saying things like this, then she's completely losing her grip. Hillary needs a reality check.

Well, you respond to susiehussein's call to improve the tone of discussion, try to see some of Hillary's inaccurate statements as inadvertent, call people's criticisms of Hillary exaggerated, and apologize for rhetorical excesses.

Meanwhile, what's happening on the campaign trail? Hillary issues a new claim with the following undeniable properties:

1. It comes directly from Hillary's lips.
2. It describes her personal recollections of recent events in the US, not long ago events in distant lands.
3. There is no way to characterize it as inadvertent repetition of unvetted hearsay.
4. It concerns an extremely important subject.
5. It works to Hillary's immediate political advantage.
6. It contains a clearly false statement about her own actions.
7. It contains a clearly false statement about her opponent's actions.

So either a) Hillary is brazenly making statements she knows to be false and is insulting the intelligence of everybody who hasn't slept through the Iraq war; or, b) Hillary is divorced from reality to an extent rendering her unfit for public office.

I'm going for "a."

I will still try to answer susiehussein's call for a higher tone, but it's getting harder and harder to be civil about Hillary. She shows no interest in seeking a higher tone herself.

Still, I'm doing my best to heed Susiehussein's noble call. Therefore, I ask the Obama supporters I criticized for shortcomings in the superhuman-restraint department to emulate Obama: speak and act in ways that unite rather than divide.

Since I feel myself sinking to a lower plane, I am taking a lesson from my surpassingly calm beagle, Buster. He has allowed me to borrow one of his antibacterial rawhide chew toys.

Here's looking at you, Hillary!

It's unfortunate that Hillary's lies go unchallenged at the local level.

http://www.registerguard.com/rg/Home/index.csp

Let's see here;
Wright said to Obama (while calabrating his compass one day) ,if you go ahead and make a speech against the Iraq War, there is a slim chance that you will be Wright and ahead of all the others (feather in your cap, so to speak) and you will be able to use it against Hillary, if that time should ever come. he,he

But if it turns out that you have been on the wrong side, you say, hey I didn't have all the Intel reports (she) the others had, or I would have been for the war too.

Obama says, sounds like slam dunk either way, he,he

There is a good SNL skit in there. GWB, HRC, McCain and Obama all in a car arguing how to get to Osama's.