Oh, I don't think idiotic will be going away. At least I hope not!

That's a little too close to home… :P

Yes. The clearly laid out and mutually agreed upon rules were followed in 2000 and the clearly laid out and mutually agreed upon rules must be followed now.

I see a direct parallel between the Bush administration's disregard for the rule of law and agreed upon procedure and the Clinton campaign's desire to do the same.

Haven't we all had enough of that sh@t?

Well, that, as needs to be said I guess over and over and over - was the fucking general election.

This isn't.

The one difference of course being that the popular vote in the GE actually does accurately* indicate voter preference (and therefore truly makes the justification for the electoral college worthy of debate), whereas in a nomination process composed of both primaries and caucuses, the popular vote is an absolutely meaningless figure. Since it weights each state's results according to population, the pledged delegate count is the only thing that gives us a valid indication of voter preference.

The fact that the "popular vote" as a theme keeps getting so much uncritical attention irritates me to no end -- how depressing that analytical thinking has become so rare!

* assuming no manipulative hanky panky

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Gore's name on the ballot in 2000?

Matthews is a waste of carbon atoms! What an insecure prick.

Raa ra ra ra echo chamber.

(Anyone else watch Lil' Bush?)

If you would feel that way, you have a very poor grasp on what disenfranchisement actually is; educate yourself:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disenfranchise

I've yet to vote either (NC) so I'm excited to vote in the primary too, but also understand that it's already over in reality.

I'm assuming you are Clinton supporter. I would just ask - were you equally dismayed back in early January when 165 superdelegates had endorsed Hillary before even one vote had been cast?

It wasn't outrageous then and it shouldn't be outrageous now when 95% of all the votes have been cast.

That said, I feel your desire to have your vote counted. I imagine you'll get your chance just as I will on May 6th.

I'm in Oregon and I don't give a damn. I want this circus over - yesterday.

Eric,

The normal thing is for candidates to drop out when it's clear they'll lose.

It's why Biden and Dodd and Richardson and Kucinich and Edwards aren't in the race any more.

It's why Giuliani and Romney are gone, too.

You and I will still get to vote May 20. If Senator Clinton drops out before that, we just cast our votes already knowing the nominee. We shape who goes to the convention, chooses the VP, and sets the platform.

Let me correct that. Whatever Senator Clinton does, those of us who vote May 20 will know the nominee. Today he needs only 136 --33%-- of the remaining 409 pledged delegates. By dawn on May 7, he'll need fewer than 40--17 or 18%. He can get that with 25% in WV, 25% in KY, and 40% in Oregon. And when he gets pledged, the delegates tumble like dominoes.

Chuck Todd called it right, and it's time to get to work on winning in November.

Hey, where'd you get them notes? Is Ben going all elitist on us?

Drove my chevy to the levy, and the levy was being sandbagged by Hillary's mavens....they were sweating a lot.

Nothing empties a room like talking about bigamy!

Sure you can. Gay men and lesbians are allowed to marry, as long as it's not to the person they're in love with. Maybe Under_a_Bus is committing adultery to its different-sex spouses with its same-sex lover(s). These atheists have no moral compass, you know ;)