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MSM Obama-bashing
The media has been very hard on Obama, and unfairly so, for over six weeks now.
If you recall, it started when Clinton starting working the refs and throwing the kitchen sink at him in the run up to Texas.
Now, scrutiny and tough questions are fine. My problems with this are several:
- Why "vet" candidates serially, ie one at a time. They were hard on Hillary at the end of 2007 and in January. Then it became Obama's turn. (Will McCain ever have his turn?) I don't get the need to one-sidedly bash and attack one candidate.
- Unfair standards. For the most part, Obama's personal and professional conduct is not in question, unlike McCain and Hillary. It has been his friends and associates. In contrast, Hillary and McCain's friends and associates are not a topic of inquiry. Likewise, McCain's gaffes are quickly papered over, while Obama's occassional slips are beaten to death.
- Does anyone else think this has gone on too long, has been
disproportionate, and amount to the media trying to game the election? Will McCain ever get "vetted" to this extent?
- Call me paranoid but I get the impression that the MSM is not intent on really helping Hillary, who they don't like that much. But on unltimately helping McCain.
Thoughts?






Comments (36)
I agree, and predict the MSM will fight the public demand to vet Mr. McCain, Im watching George S. tomorrow just to bear that witness- he will somehow regain his restraint to ask the tough irrelevant personal questions in the face of the right, or the media darling.
Interesting q about the one at a time dynamic. Perhaps too confusing to have more than one bad guy at a time in their script? Compare to other manufactured controversies. Pro wrestling switches bad guys, but it wouldn't rouse the masses if it were confused if it were two good guys, or by fair fights, or non-black and white confrontations. Not that thats what we want to digest, its what the ministers of public opinion want to feed us.
But its also the easy way to report. Make the story, then report on the story, then report on the news that the story is getting big and therefore what the public wants to hear...
April 19, 2008 11:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think most of the MSM is focused on helping one particular candidate - rather they want the ratings boost from this farce going on for as long as possible. And really the most significant thing we've all had reinforced by it is that the bulk of them aren't journalists at all - they're rather just hack reporters - seemingly content day after day to keep innanely regurgitating soundbytes from the campaigns and useing their own grey matter not one iota.
April 19, 2008 11:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. Tweety is the worst. After 8 months of bashing Clinton nightly, he turned on Obama when he got the lead.
April 20, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I suspect that the reason the media have kept their hands off of McCain is because he is a veteran. Back when Kerry was being swift-boated I noticed the media was hands off determining which side had the facts on its side. The sense I got at that time was that the MSM was afraid to challenge those veterans accusing Kerry, even though the media had records proving they were smearing Kerry's war record. The only MSM personality I ever heard say this was Ron Reagan Jr.
April 20, 2008 12:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but initially it was a similar thing with Obama partially because he was black. I think the media will get over McCain's veteran status, and he'll get his media comeuppance in due course. Once the democratic nominationis over, the media'll need a new negative story!
April 20, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the media are keeping their hands off McCain because the media follows the polls and is interested in a close race. Remember McCain was polling less favorably than Obama 1 moth ago. Noe they are running neck and neck. Good for the narrative and their bottom line.
April 20, 2008 9:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I don't think most of the MSM is focused on helping one particular candidate - rather they want the ratings boost from this farce going on for as long as possible."
I hear that argument but there's one big hole in it: Vicki Iseman. If there's one thing that sells its sex + politics. The MSM's gutless backing off of serial adulterer McCain's slimy ways in that case proves the point that it is not about ratings. If it were, we would have a 24 live webcam of Vicki's house and reporters bum-rushing her with cameras rolling.
I think this proves my point here. Anyone care to prove me wrong?
"I don't think most of the MSM is focused on helping one particular candidate - rather they want the ratings boost from this farce going on for as long as possible."
Kerry was a veteran too, and a decorated and distinguished one I might add.
Dem Rules?
April 20, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
The sex angle was most likely not true, and the reason the MSM backed off was that people got upset, just like they did at ABC.
April 20, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain defends their tax bracket interests so why shouldn't any of them do their duty to get him elected? Let's not forget who pays these people, the networks. The same networks who were hawkish for the war and who were paid in deregulation via the FCC.
April 20, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. The media was hands-off on the swift-boat veterans AND Kerry. They essentially treated it as an "he said, she said" type of dispute, while there was an official record backing Kerry's account of events.
April 20, 2008 2:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
The MSM is owned by huge multi-national corporations who's economic interests are protected by their ability manipulate the political process through lobbing and campaign contributions. Obama's stunning fund raising ability with unprecedented breadth, has been constructed almost entirely outside of this system. As a result he is not beholden to these traditional interests. I think that might be the motivation behind such horrors as the ABC debate. Unfortunately, we can expect more of the same.
April 20, 2008 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bingo! Give this poster the prize.
The thing is, though, if they feel more and more threatened, what will they do?
We should probably not assume these large, rich, and arrogant forces will go quietly away any time soon.
April 20, 2008 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Preach!
April 20, 2008 9:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
The ABC debate aside as one of the worst ever, the media is concerned with ratings. If Clinton drops out, where's the drama?
They need Clinton against Obama for excitement. Also, they let themselves be bullied by the Clintons over pro-Obama coverage.
When is the last time you've seen an audience shot at a CLinton rally?
Once Obama is the candidate, McCain becomes more interesting because he's up against Obama.
Clinton and Obama are more interesting than McCain. Put another way, no ratings with McCain.
April 20, 2008 2:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I still have yet to hear an argument that can account for Vicki Iseman. Sex and politics = big ratings. Yet they buried it.
If it were Obama and Vicki Iseman, helicopters would be hovering above her house right about now. She would be bumrushed every morning by reporters with cameras rolling. Instead, she quietly resumes her lobbying work, never having had to answer the adultery charges on camera or even a press release.
So if the MSM wants ratings, they'd be splashing Vicki Iseman and other McCain affairs (strippers, etc.) But they don't. This suggests that they have a doublestandard in attacking Democrats vs. Republicans.
April 20, 2008 3:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good point. I hadn't thought about that. You have to give McCain some credit for keeping good ties to the press which is, after all, a political skill. Clinton has been terrible over the years with the press, yet managed to browbeat them into submission in the last two months.
The press is starting to cover the McCain temper issue.
April 20, 2008 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
It seems like the rest of the media steered clear of the Vicki Iseman scandal after watching the NYT reach too far and get its fingers burned.
April 20, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where are all the damn John McWalkingCane scrutiny and critiques from the MSM?
Yeah, the media is really liberal.
April 20, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
"It seems like the rest of the media steered clear of the Vicki Iseman scandal after watching the NYT reach too far and get its fingers burned."
The NYT got shouted down by the rightwing noise machine. Nothing else.
April 20, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
It wasn't just them. A lot of moderate people got upset too. They received a lot of hate mail.
April 20, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama supporters can't handle the truth. They attack ABC because they have the journalistic integrity to actually vet Obama. Now that it's becoming clear, that Obama is not everything he seemed, Obama supporters who are in denial, have started attacking the messenger. The more they attack ABC, the more they expose the fact that Obama is damaged goods who could cost the Democrats the presidency in November. As for Obama getting hammered by Hillary....... Ahhhhhh.... poor little baby 'bama. And poor little baby 'bama supporters. Go cry to mama
April 20, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary did quite well in the debate. However, her advantage was offset by the media coverage of ABC.
You don't have to be an Obama supporter to realize that ABC's was the worst debate in media history. It didn't destroy Obama, but George's obit will have it in the first graph. Georgie is done.
April 20, 2008 4:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
To anyone who cares about the country, the ABC 'debate' was a travesty. To spend the first 40(?) minutes without touching on a single policy issue!?!? You've got to be joking!
I would like to hear more about Hillary's concept of a "national security umbrella" being extended to the middle east. That's a doozie of a statement. I'd like to hear more from both candidates about their positions on executive power, do they believe there were abuses of power in the current administration, and if so, what. And, what would they do to safeguard the country for future abuses? I'd like to hear more details about how they'd achieve a withdrawal of troops from Iraq, and how their policies would differ from the current administration's policies. I'd like to find out what changes and modifications they'd be willing to negotiate with congress re: their healthcare plans, since we know that their plans will likely undergo changes before they get passed. I'd like to know more about how they would address global climate concerns.
This is purely aside from whoever I happen to support. These are just a small handful of the important issues facing the nation and world, and nobody is talking about it. They spend more time blathering about lapel pins than they do on any single one of the above issues.
Can't handle the truth? I'm still asking and waiting for it.
April 20, 2008 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nope.
This Bit of content analysis actually finds that Obama is getting the lion's share of the scandal questions, and that even the 'balance' questions are backhanded slaps at him.
You've got to wonder at this, though. To see someone who's obviously moving millions and drawing huge crowds, and then to try to undermine someone who's obviously struck a chord with the American people, is a really stupid move, from a marketing point of view.
Rather, it's the behavior of monopolists who are suddenly aware that the ground is shifting under their feet.
April 20, 2008 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
KDH-
Such anger and frustration. Must suck to be you.
April 20, 2008 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
They gave him a standing ovation, for frigging sakes! Is there nothing barbeque can't do?
April 20, 2008 4:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain has many vulnerable points that can be attacked fairly.
Flip-flopping on serious issues like the Bush tax cut, his non-support for those generals saying we needed several hundred thousand troops to successfully invade Iraq, his support on video for the war's strategy at the start of the war, his inconsistency between saying he wanted Rumsfeld fired but never actually said so, gay marriage.
His dislike of earmarks and the earmarks he has voted for on behalf of Arizona, his ethics and campaign reform compared with the lobbyists working on his campaign, including one who used to make lobby calls from the bus.
His seeking the support of Falwell after condemning the man, his seeking the support of Catholic-hating evangelicals, the coincidence of campaign donations and FCC committee votes and letters.
His age, in so far as it might affect his several confusions between Shiite and Sunni.
None of this condemns the man for his supporters, just highlights what he himself has done.
April 20, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
The HuffPost has some numbers quantifying the ABC debate's bias:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/20/debate-analysis-abc-asked_n_97599.html
I'd love to see a statistical comparison of the kinds of questions McCain got at the debates as well. I bet zero personal scandal questions.
April 20, 2008 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe it also has to do with Obama making the elitist comments to his well-to-do West Coast donors just before a primary in a state like Pennsylvania where people have been hit hard but are really trying to go forward.
I live in France and I know 12 American registered voters who have permanently written Obama off due to his unconvincing response in the debate to the Wright question. That number will grow because each of those people will be talking to other people.
Since Obama supporters don't seem to analyze information, they see the whole thing as media bias, but I think the debate was set up so that Obama could clear himself ... and he didn't.
April 20, 2008 5:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
And I live in Dubai City and personally know 8,736 Americans here who have permanently written Clinton off due to her unconvincing account of being subject to sniper fire.
And if a miracle occurs and Clinton actual wins the Dem nomination 93.12% of those people will abandon the Democrat party and vote for Charles Manson instead of her.
April 20, 2008 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I know 12 American registered voters who have permanently written Obama off..."
"Since Obama supporters don't seem to analyze information,"
First off, the second quoted sentence tells me you and your friends weren't "on the fence" to begin with. Second, the critique that millions of people are too stupid "to analyze information" is such a strange statement. I wonder what tool of analysis you used to come to that conclusion?
April 20, 2008 8:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe they waited too long because the primary vote abroad happened in February.
Obama won.
April 20, 2008 9:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I know 12 American registered voters who have permanently written Obama off due to his unconvincing response in the debate to the Wright question."
Birds of a feather tend to flock together. You might try expanding your information sources outside your circle of friends/family to get a broader perspective.
Any individual with half an open mind who saw Obama's speech on race and Wright would refer to Obama's response so dismissively. Did you? Tell us what YOU thought of it.
April 20, 2008 6:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
"First off, the second quoted sentence tells me you and your friends weren't "on the fence" to begin with. Second, the critique that millions of people are too stupid "to analyze information" is such a strange statement. I wonder what tool of analysis you used to come to that conclusion?"
And what explains the fact that Obama wins higher educated people overwhelmingly? Clinton and McCain win the people who aren't paying attention or who in fact don't care.
But I can never tell if those dismissive of of Obamaites are 1) older folks who resent young people having their say for a change 2) prejudiced who can't fathom the possiblity that Obama is the smartest guy in the room. (Witness his brilliant questioning of Petraeus, in comparison to the true lightweight, intellectually lazy McCain)
April 20, 2008 8:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not that I think Obama supporters are smarter than others or Obama himself is always the smartest guy in the room. I'm quite aware of his negatives, but I don't turn a blind eye to his obvious negatives no matter what evidence comes in front of me. Hell, Clinton has some pretty damn strong positives, it just so happens she's running against someone who I believe has more potential than her. I'm just trying to wrap my head around why so many Clinton supporters hate Obama and his supporters so much.
I get more respectful comments from Republicans than many Clinton supporters it seems. Resentment may be the reason, I really don't know actually and probably never will. I think a major reason may simply be the fact they cannot fathom how their candidate is getting their clock cleaned by this guy. It's pure frustration.
April 20, 2008 9:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
D'oh!! Should read: "...but I don't turn a blind eye to his obvious negatives when strong evidence comes in front of me." At least I attempt not to...
How long must we wait for an edit function?
April 20, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
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