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McCain & PTSD
We all recognize and honor John McCain's Navy service and the years he spent as a POW in Vietnam. Lesser persons, including myself, would have not survived the experience of such torture.
What has not been discussed is McCain and PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder). The psychological literture makes it clear, McCain did and does suffer from PTSD. PTSD certainly puts his emotional explosiveness in context. One does not get over PTSD; it isn't like the common cold. Rather, at best, one learns to live with PTSD.
So the following questions present themselves: (1) Has McCain received the necessary therapy to bring his PTSD under control? (2) What impact will McCain's PTSD have on his ability to make considered, objective decisions as Commander in Chief? (3) Can McCain handle the stresses of the presidency in view of his PTSD and his age?
It is revealing that McCain has yet to release his medical records. Is it possible he is not releasing these records because they demonstrate his unfitness for service? Probably.













Comments (14)
This was brought up at the end of David Gregory's show on MSNBC today. It struck a chord with me, a subject very close to my heart.
My suspicion is Mc Cain is in denial about his condition and has refused therapy for it. I'm certain it plays a huge part in his rage issue.
As you correctly expressed, PTSD at best, when treated, is manageable. It is never cured. That concerns me more about McCain's ability to govern than his age.
It is revealing that he has not released his medical records yet. I think you are right on the money as to why.
April 8, 2008 1:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Damn, this evening was one of the few where I wasn't able to have MSNBC on!
It's the combination of age and PTSD that concerns me about McCain. Because of his age, his PTSD was not treated early on which means he has suffered and continues to suffer more than he would have had he been treated early. Also, PTSD, even when treated, tends to worsen in one's later years.
April 8, 2008 2:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
I often wondered if McCain has PTSD only because of my experience working with Former POW'S, in which all that I saw had a dual diagnosis of PTSD. I will give you two descriptions of how the VA rates a veteran with PTSD. The first is 10% disability. The second is 100% disability.
Occupational and social impairment due to mild or transient symptoms which decrease work efficiency and ability to perform occupational tasks only during periods of significant stress, or; symptoms controlled by continuous medication 10% S/C
Total occupational and social impairment, due to such symptoms as: gross impairment in thought processes or communication; persistent delusions or hallucinations; grossly inappropriate behavior; persistent danger of hurting self or others; intermittent inability to perform activities of daily living (including maintenance of minimal personal hygiene); disorientation to time or place; memory loss for names of close relatives, own occupation, or own name 100 % S/C
As you can see above, whether it is 10% or 100%, there is a certain amount of social and occupational impairment. I realize that a lot of veterans who suffer from this work full time, but the question should be asked, that if a Presidential Nominee has PTSD, and is deemed socially or occupationally impaired, should they be President or should they be seeking help for the condition.
April 10, 2008 11:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
My wife works at a public library where a library assistant male works the public desk and talks most of the day to the patrons who come up to check out books. At lunch and sometimes on breaks he goes into a small storage room with a thick steel door and screams for several minutes. lBefore his supervisors directed him to get professional help, he used to start arguments with innocent co-workers and manipulate them to follow him out to the alley and then start screaming incoherently at them.
Why you ask.
In the 1970's he took a lot of drugs while in college including LSD. He is now on tranquilizers and is seeing a therapist. He is paying dearly for his party time. He reaction is much like PTSD.
His symptoms seem to be much like John McCain's.
John McCain has expressed very aggressive opinions about continuing the Iraqi war at an increased commitment.
He should not be president.
April 8, 2008 2:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is psychiatrically damaged... not his fault... but for this country, the last thing we need is damaged goods in the WH... we have had that since 1/20/01... it is time to have a mentally healty person in the WH
April 8, 2008 5:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not everyone who suffers a major traumatic ordeal ends up with PTSD and some people get PTSD for far lessor traumas. There appears to be a genetic component to the vulnerability.
I agree that temperament is a legitimate issue as, to some extent, is health, but I think you should proceed with caution. I am wary of trotting out the same tactics and inuendo that were used against McCain by Karl Rove in 2000. I am also wary that in our zeal to defeat McCain we will perpetuate bigoted stereotypes about persons with mental illness, e.g. that they cannot be trusted or are automatically disqualified from certain jobs.
I would venture to say--given that ~10% of the population suffers from a mental health condition at some point--that many of our past presidents and current congresspeople have had a mental illness while serving the public, including some of those we consider great. (And what if it becomes known that Clinton or Obama was treated for major depression at some point in their lives?)
OK, I've had my say...carry on.
April 8, 2008 6:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Its always been my position that McCain wasn't damaged mentally by the North Vietnamese nearly so much as by his continued membership in the Republican Party. The Commies couldn't break him but the GOP could.
Just goes to show who has the more potent propaganda machine.
April 8, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wow... I made this point a couple of weeks ago myself. Wish I could remember which blog on which I was ranting.
No matter. It's a very valid point and should be brought up again and again and again until McCane releases his medical records.
April 8, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interesting speculation, no doubt. But I would point out a few things.
McCain, whatever one may think of his politics or his occasional -- repeat, occasional -- flashes of anger or hostility, has been a viable U.S. Representative and Senator for twenty-eight years.
As with just about any politician, he's shown himself, on occasion, to be dishonest, a hypocrite and as regards to the Iraq invasion and occupation, an old fool. But he has also held positions and helped pass legislation which is universally admired, or as good as.
He's a husband and father, and I've yet to hear stories of his being other than a good one. He divorced his first wife on good terms before marrying his second.
After his return from Vietnam, neither his life — with the exception of his first marriage — nor his career went downhill. To the contrary, he seems to have matured considerably and to have gone on to make the most of his opportunities.
These things are hardly indications of someone having experienced PTSD or, in the event he did, of someone incapable of handling whatever the consequences might be.
"[P]sychiatrically damaged"? Show me someone who is not "psychiatrically damaged." I've no reason to assume other than that you were simply following the line of your speculation, but this is not merely a flippant assertion, it's a gratuitous insult.
Unlike you, I do not honour either his navy service or the years he spent as a pow. As I wrote in an earlier post, while I admire him for having kept his wits, I consider him a coward for having failed to learn what he should have learned from his experiences in the military.
It's unfortunate that he continues to find comfort burying his head up the Republican elephant's ass — unequivocally an indication of educational and experiential damage — but he deserves better than you're giving him here.
McCain should have beat Bush in 2000. Just like Clinton should have run and beat him in 2004. They're both anachronisms. The sooner they accept this and move on, the better.
April 8, 2008 6:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not everyone who suffers a major traumatic ordeal ends up with PTSD and some people get PTSD for far lessor traumas. There appears to be a genetic component to the vulnerability.
I agree that temperament is a legitimate issue as, to some extent, is health, but I think you should proceed with caution. I am wary of trotting out the same tactics and inuendo that were used against McCain by Karl Rove in 2000. I am also wary that in our zeal to defeat McCain we will perpetuate bigoted stereotypes about persons with mental illness, e.g. that they cannot be trusted or are automatically disqualified from certain jobs.
I would venture to say--given that ~10% of the population suffers from a mental health condition at some point--that many of our past presidents and current congresspeople have had a mental illness while serving the public, including some of those we consider great.
OK, I've had my say...carry on.
April 8, 2008 6:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the key question here is, as Merlot points out, has McCain recieved the necessary therapy to bring his PTSD under control?
As someone who suffers from chronic depression, I would like to say the following: I believe that people who suffer from mental illnesses should not be discriminated against in terms of employment opportunities...as long as they are receiving the necessary treatment to bring their illnesses under control.
In this respect, mental illness should not be treated any differently than any other physical illness.
I feel that McCain's rhetoric regarding the Iraq War points to the dangers of him perhaps trying to "win" the Iraq war as a way to deal with the fact that we "lost" Vietnam. I find his justification of 1OO years or more in Iraq by referencing Japan and Korea equally disturbing.
Are his errors in reasoning related to the fact that he is suffering from inadequatly treated PTSD?
Maybe.
April 8, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I believe that people who suffer from mental illnesses should not be discriminated against in terms of employment opportunities...as long as they are receiving the necessary treatment to bring their illnesses under control."
Ame,
You are absolutely right!
While the thought of a McCain presidency is abhorrent to me, the notion of using this as a 527 issue in the campaign is equally disgusting, UNLESS he has refused to be treated for it.
It is imperative he release his medical records as soon as possible.
April 8, 2008 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
As to questions from others here on what evidence there is McCain has suffered PTSD, I've spent some time this evening googling for confirmation of this from a mainstream or otherwise-reputable source, to no avail. But there are quite a few folks with websites or who are writing comments on this subject, and I have to say it never occurred to me before that this might be the reason he's less than enthusiastic about releasing medical records.
If it is a problem with which he's suffered, I think most of us would understand and sympathize. But to get past the images it conjures of uncontrollable anger, he'd need to pull an Obama and have some kind of frank talk with the nation about this condition and about those who suffer from it. But then that whole issue of his support for an unjustified war and its unhappy effects would come up again...
Well, we'll see.
April 8, 2008 11:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I for one see no issue with Mccain as president with PTSD. Fact is maybe not so well known that John F. Kennedy had PTSD (or Shellshock at that time), until the day he died. I would think McCain like anyone else who has PTSD can, and often do lead a "normal" life.
PTSD is not a mental illness, and in no way should it be cause to question his judgement as a leader. We have people on the battlefield, in our fire dept's, police dept's, and other stressful jobs with PTSD. Do we question their judgement? Maybe, but not because they have PTSD.
My 2 cents.
June 11, 2008 4:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
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