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List your favorite Hillary Rovian Tactic
While I know people hate it when someone copies and pastes a long passage, I believe this is an exception, since the information it contains will help all of us. I came across this list a while ago, created to help liberal democrats fight Right Wing spin in all manner of arguments – global warming, creationism, stem cell research etc.
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Man...what is up with this site cutting off posts.
Anyway check out the "How to argue like a right winger" list. It is eerily familiar to a certain candidate we know.
http://theinterroblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/how-to-argue-like-right-winger.html
Then list your favorite Hillary tactic here.
April 15, 2008 4:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't decide between the false mailers in NH attacking Obama's pro-choice position or the robocalls asking voters in Nevada if they knew about Barack HUSSEIn Obama and "he's not a Muslim...as far as I know."
April 15, 2008 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary is post-Rovian.
Even Rove never stooped to having one of his candidates endorse the Democratic opponent over a Republican colleague.
April 15, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
the basic ones that stand out for me:
1) a ruthless willingness to do anything to win, at whatever costs to everyone for your own greedy and fraudulent self-interests
2) generally gaming and subverting the system to serve your own interests rather than the people you falsely claim to serve
3) dispensing with facts and realities; cultivating and spreading delusional propaganda through demagoguery
4) masquerading as a human being having a human soul
April 15, 2008 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I personally like these from the article
2. The Gish Gallop (or fling shit and see what sticks)
This example is perfect for all of those "present" votes she tried to muddy, as well as speakers at her campaign rallies "something in the neighborhood"
3. The Strawman (or make a characterization of your opponent and attack it)
Who's elitest? Or unelectable because he's black?
4. Changing the subject
The most obvious of these is her being caught in her outrageous Bosnia lie then started screaming "Rev. Wright" again. (still doing it to superdels)
5. Conflation - combining different entities as one and the same.
Al Queda and Iraq anyone? (See Hillary's floor speech)
6. Projection - accuse your opponent of what you are actually guilty of:
Hillary's assurances to CA on NAFTA and then accused Obama of it.
Taking outrageous amounts of money from corporate lobbying interests then tries to say that Obama does too.
The most blatant was the "shame on you" stint she pulled in Ohio.
April 15, 2008 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have a friend that jokes often that Americans who can't speak other languages feel that if they say something loud enough, anyone can understand it.
The Clintons think if they say a lie often enough, that makes it true.
April 15, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
You guys are missing the biggest ones
Bullshit voter challenges at primaries and caucuses
Bullshit lawyer challenges at caucuses
Bullshit attempts to get Obama delegates to convert
Fake illegal presigned voter rolls
Attempts to tell voters their polling places had changed
That dirty bitch is no friend of democracy or democrats for that matter.
April 15, 2008 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I did miss the big ones. Thanks TM. There are so many now it is hard to keep track.
I like Bill Maher's suggestion - it is so hard to keep up with all the bullshit that he downloads the latest outrageous lies and fuckups directly to his Ipod.
April 15, 2008 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
oh, yeah, another in this vein:
suing to prevent those convenient caucus sites near the NV casinos where she realized she couldn't win votes from the workers' union members ... (always willing to screw the voters!)
the specifics are so numerous I preferred to generalize in my initial post, listing the personal traits she shares with shrub's 'brain' seemed sufficient ...
crimes! that's what criminals do ...
April 15, 2008 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
yeah i agree with your points on her traits but I think the fact she actually pulled a Von Spakovsky is pretty damn low- she's in the abyss and all but trying to fuck with democratic voters and you're a democrat? damn
April 16, 2008 12:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
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